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16:11, 30 March 2020 (UTC)

Banstead

Hi Matt. Thanks for the message. It is best to avoid having squadlists for clubs playing at step 5 as they are rarely updated – I have come across squad lists on articles for clubs at this level over four or five years out of date. You'll notice that barely any other clubs at your level have them for this reason.

The expected behaviour if an edit of yours is reverted is to try to discuss and gain consensus for the change, not repeat the edit (see WP:BRD). However, separately, as a club official, you are also strongly advised not to edit the article due to our WP:Conflict of interest guidelines. However, you are welcome to suggest improvements or start discussions on the article's talk page. Cheers, Number 5 7 17:53, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi there, we as a club really do see a benefit of including a squad list as it is another platform along with our social media and website where followers can keep up to date. Nearby club Sutton Common Rovers also believe this is a positive so they’ve included theirs. If it means me sending you an up to date list every few months I’d be happy to do so as my position at the club isn’t changing any time soon. Many thanks Matt Longhurst (talk) 18:24, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Matt. I think the issue here is you seeing Wikipedia as a platform. We're an encyclopedia, not a social media website or any other kind of website run to benefit the club. Representatives of Sutton Common Rovers should also not be using Wikipedia like this. Cheers, Number 5 7 18:37, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

If you keep readding it, either the article will be locked to stop you editing it, or your account will be blocked from editing. Please don't go down either route. Thanks, Number 5 7 19:05, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I’m sorry but I believe you are being unreasonable. It is in the interests of the club that this is on here as it involves us. Please stop deleting it, it's only causing unnecessary grief. I have agreed to update it regularly and apart from that there is no issue. Matt Longhurst (talk) 19:11, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Again, Wikipedia is not here to serve the interests of the club. And there are issues: As a club official you should not be editing the article. Grief is only being caused by you refusing to adhere to Wikipedia's rules. Thanks, Number 5 7 19:13, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The interests of the club is that up to date information is available which is what I’m trying to provide. Many clubs at our level agree so this is very misleading and unnecessary. Can I delegate the information for you to publish? Matt Longhurst (talk) 19:18, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

As I mentioned above, I don't believe it's a good idea to have squadlists at this level as they are not updated regularly (despite claims from new editors that they will do so) and often end up out-of-date. As long as you keep your own website up-to-date, people will easily be able to find the information. Also, in future, please do take on board advice from other editors rather than forcing action to be taken. Thanks, Number 5 7 19:36, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Fine. We took advice from Worcester Park and Sutton Common Rovers, will you modify their pages? What requirements would we need to include a squad list (league level?) Matt Longhurst (talk) 19:39, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed the unsourced squadlists from their articles as well. In terms of what it would take for a squadlist to be added to the Banstead article, it would have to be done by an editor not connected with the club, and for me to be convinced it wasn't a drive-by passing interest, it should be done by someone who has edited for some time already and has proved they are a long-term contributor. Number 5 7 19:52, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Can we show you the squadlist from the Combined Counties league so you can see these are registered players? Matt Longhurst (talk) 19:55, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

This isn't really relevant. The main issue here is about these lists not being kept up-to-date. Number 5 7 19:57, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

I promise to do that every 3 months can I at least have a chance? Matt Longhurst (talk) 20:01, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

March 2020

Your recent editing history at Banstead Athletic F.C. shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. To resolve the content dispute, please do not revert or change the edits of others when you are reverted. Instead of reverting, please use the talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. The best practice at this stage is to discuss, not edit-war. See the bold, revert, discuss cycle for how this is done. If discussions reach an impasse, you can then post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection.

Being involved in an edit war can result in you being blocked from editing—especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring—even if you don't violate the three-revert rule—should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly. Giant Snowman 19:16, 30 March 2020 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy deletion nomination of Andreas Squibb

Hello Matt Longhurst,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Andreas Squibb for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly indicate why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Thanks!

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Govvy (talk) 14:23, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

October 2020

Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but you removed a speedy deletion tag from Andreas Squibb, a page you have created yourself. If you believe the page should not be deleted, you may contest the deletion by clicking on the button that says: Contest this speedy deletion which appears inside the speedy deletion notice. This will allow you to make your case on the talk page. Administrators will consider your reasoning before deciding what to do with the page. Thank you. Captain Calm (talk) 15:26, 23 October 2020 (UTC)[reply]

April 2021

You have been blocked from editing for a period of one week to prevent further vandalism. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.

If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.