User talk:Old Moonraker/Archive 5

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The anon IP has been given a one week break from editing. I'm wondering if his real grief is with Pediapress, and that's his problem. Did you see the pdf of the Solar System article he contributed to? On the other hand, the pdf of the Middle Ages book doesn't mention Wikipedia. Doug Weller (talk) 13:32, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Toby Stephens

Hi Old Moonraker. For the past two years, Wikipedia readers interested in Toby Stephens have been able to gain insight and information about Mr Stephen's work with the RSC in the role of Hamlet. About 70 of them have done so - not a great deal but enough to justify having the link. Now, thanks to your edit, new readers will be unable to gain that insight. Thank you for taking the time to prevent people understanding what Toby's production was about. —Preceding unsigned comment added by (talkcontribs)

I don't know if he will read this, but the IP user who added his blog should have caught on after a bot kept removing it. But even with that and 2 editors, he still hasn't asked why it is happening! Doug Weller (talk) 14:50, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
Done: Just follow the link: Talk:Toby Stephens#Toby Stephens in RSC Hamlet. --Old Moonraker (talk) 16:56, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Filiquarian Publishing LLC

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I have nominated Filiquarian Publishing LLC, an article you created, for deletion. I do not feel that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Filiquarian Publishing LLC. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice? SarekOfVulcan (talk) 14:58, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Keep recommendation posted. --Old Moonraker (talk) 16:00, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: "[sic]" in Charge_of_the_Light_Brigade

Hi! i wouldn't strenuously object to adding "sic" back (i don't think linking it makes sense, i.e. "linking all words is silly" :-) )... but using it does seem to imply (rightly or wrongly) to most people that it was an error preserved in the transcription. I also doubt that you'll see a flood of "corrections"... look at, for example, Serjeant-at-Arms, where there's no "move war". Another solution might be to explicitly link "Serjeant" to Sergeant, like [[Sergeant|Serjeant]] which implies that it's meant to be spelled that way. Another point to consider is that a Chaucer quote won't have sic on it, on the other hand, i don't know how relevant that is. I don't know... like i said, i'm not going to get upset if you revert. Cheers! --Storkk (talk) 10:48, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Reply on poster's talk page. --Old Moonraker (talk) 05:45, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
Hi again!... do you have the source involved? I'm just wondering if "Serjeants" has a colon after it in the original, as all the other categories listed do. Did this somehow get lost? Cheers, Storkk (talk) 12:55, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
Went back to the original (and in doing so found a typo in the page number) and found that it's a table, which I can't do on Wikipedia. Colon inserted, as suggested. URL attached to the footnote, to assist any editor who wants to try to use a table instead of text. --Old Moonraker (talk) 13:08, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
What do you think? I left out the ellipses, but tried to get everything else. I'm not sure it's better at all. --Storkk (talk) 13:55, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
As it's a quote, we should, according to MOS:QUOTE, try to "preserve the original style, spelling and punctuation". You have succeeded where I failed—thanks. The same guideline suggests that in blockquotes the quotation marks may be dispensed with: indeed as it stands the opening mark does look a bit incongruous.--Old Moonraker (talk) 14:06, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
I saw the problem with the quotes, however because of the table, even using <blockquotes> it's not crystal clear that it's a quotation. I couldn't think of a solution to this. I'll be copy/pasting this discussion over to the article's talk page so that it's more open to other contributors. Cheers, Storkk (talk) 14:14, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

Date formats

Thanks for your advice. Wikilinking dates is now optional, and though I won't go through and remove all wikilinking, when i change a date to the correct format, I'll remove the brackets. Most of our users don't have accounts and date preferences, so the effect of wikilinking dates has been to confuse readers, while hiding inconsistencies from the editors. You'll be seeing an increasing number of articles being botted to remove wikilinks. See the talk page at WP:DATE for current discussion. --Pete (talk) 22:14, 20 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the reply. I hadn't noticed the discussion among a handful of editors, which is still continuing, to "flush autoformatting down the pan" neither had I noticed this new bot in action. Presumably it will leave the date style consistent throughout the piece, which is not the case in Charge of the Light Brigade: some dates are linked, some not.
I see that all of your edits to Charge of the Light Brigade consist of fiddling with the date formats, although on one occasion you "allowed" the date autoformatting to remain. While either formatted or unformatted dates are permitted in WP:DATE, it could be seen as a little arbitrary—I hesitate to use the term drive by—to descend on this article and change the long-standing usage of the regular contributors. Is there a reason here I have missed? --Old Moonraker (talk) 06:08, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
Afterthought: I note that your date format change on A. A. Milne (on my watchlist and not stalking—the last edit before yours was from me) was to the dd mmmm yyyy format, which seems appropriate for this British subject. Is it the intention to match the date format to the "nationality" of the article, or was this just a happy coincidence? Matching the format to the article topic would go a long way towards alleviating editors' concerns. --Old Moonraker (talk) 10:20, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
I enjoy doing a bit of "tidy-up" by changing date formats to that appropriate for nationality. Most editors are American, it seems, so American dates creep in where they shouldn't. And the reverse too, though far more rare. I'm certainly not going to go around removing brackets from dates for the hell of it, but when I change a date from now on, I'll remove the brackets. --Pete (talk) 18:22, 21 July 2008 (UTC)


No problem :-) Just trying to help stop vandalism :D Yamakiri TC § 07-26-2008 • 04:48:11

List of names in English with counterintuitive pronunciations is being considered for deletion

Since you've contributed quite a bit to the list, you may be interested in joining the discussion. Thanks. Afasmit (talk) 02:59, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. --Old Moonraker (talk) 15:03, 27 July 2008 (UTC)


Glad to help. Are you going to report that vandal to AIV? --Meldshal [Chat] 17:48, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

This is an obvious vandalism-only account and the full range of warnings isn't essential in "personal attack" cases, but Admins seem to have tighten up on the "after final warning" requirement recently. I'll wait. --Old Moonraker (talk) 17:57, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
User:Bjelleklang ("with a strong policy... against personal attacks") has blocked User:Classcond. Thanks again, User:Meldshal, for the advice. --Old Moonraker (talk) 19:22, 30 July 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Image:Minories stationLBR.jpg

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{{hangon}} tag added: the transfer is bot-tagged and not complete.--Old Moonraker (talk) 09:43, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

Sebastian Shaw

Thanks for fixing the typos! This is actually my first real effort for Wikipedia; actually, it started because I did a Sebastian Shaw featured article nomination at Wookieepedia, the Star Wars wikipedia, and figured I'd bring it on over here. I'm still pretty new to this, but I put this up for a peer review to see if it might be worth of a good or featured nomination. Maybe you wouldn't mind reviewing it once it gets added to the peer review page? -- Hunter Kahn (talk) 06:29, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Much easier to spot other people's typos than your own, and I'll be watching the peer review closely. Thanks again for the work you put in on the article. --Old Moonraker (talk) 07:17, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Tay Rail Bridge

As you are a major contributor to this article, I wanted to make certain that you were aware of its GA Sweeps review, which can be found here. --Malleus Fatuorum (talk) 18:01, 9 August 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. Perennial rather than major contributor, but I'll certainly be watching the review. Best. --Old Moonraker (talk) 18:53, 9 August 2008 (UTC)


Hi...I noticed you put a note on the metallurgy article referring to a link that goes to a sub-section. There is already redirect for ductile-brittle transition temperature which points to the ductility article. You may want to change the link to that. Just FYI. --Wizard191 (talk) 11:56, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

I looked at that one but, as the original use is specifically in the context of cold seawater (see here), I thought that the one in metallurgy, which describes this specifically, was probably better. Thanks for the suggestion. --Old Moonraker (talk) 12:07, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
Fair enough. Happy editing! --Wizard191 (talk) 12:53, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Pharaoh/pharaohs (pl.)

I checked on [1] and it states that the plural for "pharaoh" is "pharaohs", not "pharaoahs", which would justify a change in Resin#Derivatives. The same plural "pharaohs" is used on Pharaoh. Ferred (talk) 19:14, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Not me—I added an "a" to "pharohs". Link here --Old Moonraker (talk) 19:21, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
You've done it again! [2] --Old Moonraker (talk) 10:06, 4 September 2008 (UTC)


The Citation Barnstar The Citation Barnstar
Thank you for your work on Wikipedia. Your work improving articles and adding references is much appreciated. J.T Pearson (talk) 18:49, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: Agincourt

The word unexpected is me attempting to improve the intro through content from the spanish version. Feel free to reword/eliminate as necessary. Geoff Plourde (talk) 16:45, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

Edits to Julius Caesar

Name of people are not subject to translation. ex: Old Moonraker is "Old Moonraker" in every language.

p.s. "J" does not exist in Latina language. (Il link da te fornito spiega proprio questo.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aid85 (talkcontribs) 14:25, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

  • Translation: The link you supplied explains just this (using Systran). --Old Moonraker (talk) 16:56, 20 September 2008 (UTC)