User talk:Pmetzger

Gropes and gripes

Hi there!

Got a couple issues to bring up with you. Firstly, your note on User_talk:Pazza. Wikipedia policy is always to sign one's sig on talk pages. This can be accomplished auto-magically using the quad tilde (~~~~), and it allows us to know who has posted what.

• I usually do. That was an accident. --Pmetzger 00:37, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Secondly, I (and, again, wikipolicy) disagree with your definition of vandalism as in your SD reason for My jedi story. Vandalism is defined with malicious intent; that page was a simple case of vanity and misunderstanding of WP:NOT. Please remember not to bite the newbies!

• Really, what we need is a standard speedy for "Wikipedia is not a place to publish fiction". --Pmetzger 00:37, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

In any case, I feel I'm getting a bit lecturing, so I'll depart now. You're doing a great job here. Keep it up. --BorgHunter (talk) 00:26, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

Source Systems

Vanity is not a reason for speedy deletion. You need to place that article in WP:AFD. Thanks. ≈ jossi fresco ≈ t@ 04:12, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

• I read Criterion A7 to reasonably mean companies as well as people, and the precedents I've read seem to indicate this is correct. Do you have better information? --Pmetzger 04:19, 21 November 2005 (UTC)

See this:

Thanks--Humayun_shabbir

Thanks

Thanks for correcting 109,000 metric tons to 109 million metric tons in the article on Ammonia. My face is appropriately red! - mbeychok 04:49, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

• Eh, easy mistake to make. The important thing is it is fixed. :) --Pmetzger 22:30, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

hi, FYI, the backslash in ...

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Mediation -- Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-12-03 Equiv versus Equal-Def

I opened your request for mediation. However, you have not named any specific respondents. Mediation is a consensual process where both applicant and respondents must agree to the mediation. Please return to the page and name atleast one main respondent that you wish to seek resolution with on this matter. It's most likely that if you choose one, they will collect their supporters to join the discussion. Alan.ca 05:41, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

I added User:SebastianHelm as a respondent on the arbitrary basis that he has done many of the edits. We can presumably move forward from there. --Pmetzger 16:45, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
This user has a notice on his talk page stating his region is encountering some kind of disaster. I will put the case on hold for now, unless you're interested in removing his name and naming another party. Alan.ca 01:54, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
I suspect this disaster is rather short term. Could you begin by examining the situation at least and seeing if you can come to some sort of conclusion? We could then discuss it but wait for Mr. Helm to return (or for another counterparty) to proceed more formally. --Pmetzger 18:21, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
• I responded to both parties on my talk page, but have not seen either of you state that you are ready to proceed with me as your mediator on the discussion section of the mediation page. Please advise on my talk page or on the MEDCAB page. Alan.ca 05:50, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

• I responded, as you can see. --Pmetzger 21:14, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

Pmetzger, Alan.ca was blocked recently, and wasn't able to be in any Mediation, including one that I'm in. I suggest you allow him to return to your Mediation. Acalamari 20:22, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
I'm not sure that in any way increases my confidence that the matter would be settled quickly and fairly if Alan were to remain as the mediator. --Pmetzger 20:54, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
He has been unblocked now. I think that he has handled our Mediation fairly, and I say that he would handle your fairly as well. Acalamari 21:10, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

Meditation Cabal

Good evening (GMT time); I have taken over your med cabal case and we can begin whenever is suitable for you.

If there is any questions you have not directly concerning the case, please drop by my talk page.

Cheers and regards,
Anthonycfc 20:41, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm happy to start immediately. --Pmetzger 03:36, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Excellent. I will commence the discussion here (the Case page in Med Cabal namespace) - unless you wish to hold it at a mainspace article talk page?

Anthonycfc 13:14, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Mediation

The end is near. Regards, Anthonycfc [TC] 01:39, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Pardon, I've been away for a couple of days -- I need a chance to catch up... --Pmetzger 05:05, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Replacing "utilize" with "use"

Hi, I see that you're apparently editing several articles ([1], [2], [3], [4], [5] and many many others) to replace "utilize" with "use". Please do not do this blindly, and without knowledge of the specific subject matter that is the subject of the article.

In Patent infringement, for example, "use" has a specific legal meaning, and is only one form of patent infringement. The word "utilize" was apparently employed to avoid exactly the type of misleading statement introduced by your edit.

Some of your edit summaries include comments along the lines of "Use" is always a better word than "Utilize". That's not true, it's not always a better word; sometimes it's specifically not the right word. Please don't edit articles unless you are sufficiently familiar with the subject matter to appreciate such distinctions. Thanks. TJRC (talk) 20:32, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

• Fine, there might be some specific legal situations where "use" is a term of art and "utilize" might be used to avoid it (although my dealings with the patent bar, and yes I've had them, haven't revealed that in the case of patent law). However, I'm unaware of any other situation, other than direct quotation (where clearly accurate quotation of a source is critical) or explanation of a term that includes "Utilize", in which "Utilize" isn't anything other than an attempt to demonstrate false erudition. The word is an abomination. (I'm not sure I believe the bit about patent law, by the way, but I won't dispute a revert there until I've done my own research.) --Pmetzger (talk) 20:40, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
• I don't like "utilize," either, so I didn't revert, I reworded to avoid it. But "use" is just one type of patent infringement, see 35 USC 271. "Utilize" was apparently used in the article to avoid confusion with the "use" that's just one of the enumerated acts in 271. But my point is, mass edits without taking the time to understand context is not a good thing. "Utilize" was by no means good in this article, but "use" was wrong. Ugly beats wrong any day. TJRC (talk) 22:41, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
• I do actually read the articles I clean up, and I'm pretty careful about context when replacing "utilize". One has to be careful about things like quotations or places where applying the change mechanically would not work correctly. I'm not running a bot for that reason. I'll be more careful about law related articles in the future, but I think those are a small minority. --Pmetzger (talk) 02:44, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

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