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Your submission at Articles for creation: Sargi Maan (October 2)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reasons left by Aafi were:

This submission is not adequately supported by reliable sources. Reliable sources are required so that information can be verified. If you need help with referencing, please see Referencing for beginners and Citing sources.

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

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_Regards,Aafi ^(talk) 07:22, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

hi Aafi

I have added respective songs news on Times of India and respective you tube channels

kindly guide us what reliable sources can be added to publish the page Sargimaanmusic (talk) 07:55, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please refer to my comment left on the draft a few moments ago. I can see almost nothing in your references that is useful in verifying notability. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 07:58, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

hi

can i use official channels as refrences like spotify, youtube channel and other music channels like ganna etc.

please guide how i can use these as reliable sources Sargimaanmusic (talk) 08:11, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

No, those are not considered independent reliable sources. Please answer the question posed at the bottom of this page. 331dot (talk) 08:12, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

October 2024

Hello Sargimaanmusic. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being employed (or being compensated in any way) by a person, group, company or organization to promote their interests. Paid advocacy on Wikipedia must be disclosed even if you have not specifically been asked to edit Wikipedia. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

Paid advocates are strongly discouraged from direct article editing, and should instead propose changes on the talk page of the article in question if an article exists. If the article does not exist, paid advocates are strongly discouraged from attempting to write an article at all. At best, any proposed article creation should be submitted through the articles for creation process, rather than directly.

Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Sargimaanmusic. The template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Sargimaanmusic|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. 331dot (talk) 07:48, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

As previously advised, your edits give the impression you have a financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. You were asked to cease editing until you responded by either stating that you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits, or by complying with the mandatory requirements under the Wikimedia Terms of Use that you disclose your employer, client and affiliation. Again, you can post such a disclosure on your user page at User:Sargimaanmusic, and the template {{Paid}} can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form: {{paid|user=Sargimaanmusic|employer=InsertName|client=InsertName}}. Please respond before making any other edits to Wikipedia. Even posting a comment counts as editing. This question must be answered before editing further, please. 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 07:59, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

no i am brother of Sargi Maan Singer and i am creating this page on the belf of Sargi Maan Singer. No company is involved in editing this article and content is totally related to Sargi Maan. No information is taken from other sources Sargimaanmusic (talk) 08:16, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Okay, thank you for the clarification. I might suggest changing your username to better represent you, you may do this via Special:GlobalRenameRequest or WP:CHUS. 331dot (talk) 08:17, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i have put request to change the name Ramanjot2024 Sargimaanmusic (talk) 08:21, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

what else can i do for reliable references of singer as She is very popular Punjabi singer Sargimaanmusic (talk) 08:23, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Popularity is not relevant, you need to demonstrate that she meets the definition of a notable musician with significant coverage in independent reliable sources that chose on their own to write about her. Sources don't need to be in English as long as they are independent reliable sources. For a musician that is usually reviews or critiques of her work written by professional reviewers. As I said elsewhere, the awards do not contribute to notability as the awards themselves do not have articles(like Grammy Award). 331dot (talk) 08:26, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i have added 15 citations related to sargi maan Singer. All are from reliable independent sources Ramanjot2024 (talk) 09:01, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Sargi Maan has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Sargi Maan. Thanks! 🇺🇦 Fiddle^Timtrent Faddle^Talk to me 🇺🇦 07:53, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation: Sargi Maan (October 2)

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. The reason left by Cabrils was:

This submission's references do not show that the subject qualifies for a Wikipedia article—that is, they do not show significant coverage (not just passing mentions) about the subject in published, reliable, secondary sources that are independent of the subject (see the guidelines on the notability of people). Before any resubmission, additional references meeting these criteria should be added (see technical help and learn about mistakes to avoid when addressing this issue). If no additional references exist, the subject is not suitable for Wikipedia.

The comment the reviewer left was:

Well done on creating the draft, and it may potentially meet the relevant requirements (including WP:GNG, WP:ANYBIO, WP:MUSICBIO) but presently it is not clear that it does.

As other reviewers have noted, Wikipedia's basic requirement for entry is that the subject is notable. Essentially subjects are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject. To properly create such a draft page, please see the articles ‘Your First Article’, ‘Referencing for Beginners’ and ‘Easier Referencing for Beginners’. Please note that some of the references are not from sources that are considered reliable for establishing notability and should be removed (including blogs, company websites, Twitter, YouTube, Spotify etc). Please note that some of the references are not formatted correctly (see Introduction to referencing with VisualEditor and Wikipedia’s Manual of Style for help). Also, if you have any connection to the subject, including being paid, you have a conflict of interest that you must declare on your Talk page (to see instructions on how to do this please click the link). Please familiarise yourself with these pages before amending the draft. If you feel you can meet these requirements, then please make the necessary amendments before resubmitting the page. It would help our volunteer reviewers by identifying, on the draft's talk page, the WP:THREE best sources that establish notability of the subject. It would also be helpful if you could please identify with specificity, exactly which criteria you believe the page meets (eg "I think the page now meets WP:MUSICBIO criteria #3, because XXXXX").

Once you have implemented these suggestions, you may also wish to leave a note for me on my talk page and I would be happy to reassess.

Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

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Cabrils (talk) 09:40, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Cabrils hi cabrils

I just want to know what we have to show in reliable resources

as I have added times of india citations and singer had their on officicial Spotify, YouTube IMDb and other music channels

has received awards and citations already added to page

kindly suggest what can be done to publish this page as she is having 50+ songs recorded Ramanjot2024 (talk) 10:05, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, this would be a good question for WP:TEAHOUSE. Cabrils (talk) 00:16, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

hi sir

i have added category of the page as Punjabi Singer Biography and make changes as suggested. Kindly Review and guide me so that article can be pulished Ramanjot2024 (talk) 12:58, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Ramanjot2024! Having an article draft declined at Articles for Creation can be disappointing. If you are wondering why your article submission was declined, please post a question at the Articles for creation help desk. If you have any other questions about your editing experience, we'd love to help you at the Teahouse, a friendly space on Wikipedia where experienced editors lend a hand to help new editors like yourself! See you there! Cabrils (talk) 09:40, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Sargi Maan

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A tag has been placed on Draft:Sargi Maan, requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G11 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the page seems to be unambiguous advertising which only promotes a company, group, product, service, person, or point of view and would need to be fundamentally rewritten in order to become encyclopedic. Please read the guidelines on spam and Wikipedia:FAQ/Organizations for more information.

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@GPL93

hi

this page is not related to any company or specific person

and it is not created for promotion purpose.

sargi maan is Punjabi singer with more than 50 tracks

kindly suggest some changes so that page can be published Ramanjot2024 (talk) 14:27, 2 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Your submission at Articles for creation

Your recent article submission to Articles for Creation has been reviewed. Unfortunately, it has not been accepted at this time. Please check the submission for any additional comments left by the reviewer. You are encouraged to edit the submission to address the issues raised and resubmit after they have been resolved.

If you would like to continue working on the submission, go to the submission and click on the "Edit" tab at the top of the window.
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Ramanjot2024 (talk) 13:00, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

AfC notification: Draft:Sargi Maan has a new comment

I've left a comment on your Articles for Creation submission, which can be viewed at Draft:Sargi Maan. Thanks! CNMall41 (talk) 21:15, 3 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

i have read your comment. She has many subscribers on Spotify, YouTube which are her official channels. can i show those on the page so that page can be published Ramanjot2024 (talk) 13:11, 4 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]