User talk:Roberto Bello
Please do not write or add to an article about yourself, as you apparently did at Robert Bell (genealogist). Creating an autobiography is strongly discouraged – see our guideline on writing autobiographies. If you create such an article, it may be deleted. If what you have done in life is genuinely notable and can be verified according to our policy for articles about living people, someone else will probably create an article about you sooner or later (see Wikipedians with articles). If you wish to add to an existing article about yourself, please propose the changes on its talk page. Please understand that this is an encyclopedia and not a personal web space or social networking site. If your article has already been deleted, please see: Why was my page deleted?, and if you feel the deletion was an error, please discuss it with the deleting administrator. Thank you. --Orange Mike | Talk 21:51, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
Your query on my talk page
Hi Robert. You wrote on my talk page:
- Hi, I see you have "deleted page Robert A. Bell (Implausible redirect for genealogist article, since author claims not to have a middle initial)". I don't understand why this should be implausible. If you looked me up, e.g. on Amazon, you would find that I do not have a middle initial: http://www.amazon.com/Book-Ulster-Surnames-Robert-Bell/dp/0856406023/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1352898838&sr=1-1&keywords=Robert+Bell+surnames (a book given as a refernce in the article). And nor am I or have been a 'genealogist'. I understand from one of your colleagues that I should not have edited something about myself. Sorry, I didn't understand that. If you dislike the edit, you could just reinstate the old article. But I would be abliged if you would get my name right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roberto Bello (talk • contribs) 13:27, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
First, see my reply to you at Wikipedia:Help desk#Robert A. Bell, in which I explained that I would assist you by changing the name of the article. However, the name could not be changed to "Robert Bell" because Robert Bell is a disambiguation page that links to articles about many other Robert Bells.
Because the disambiguation page described "Robert A. Bell" as a genealogist, I renamed the article to Robert Bell (genealogist).
The renaming left the title Robert A. Bell as a redirect to the new name. After performing the renaming, I went through every single article that pointed to Robert A. Bell and changed those links to point to the renamed article Robert Bell (genealogist). Then, because Robert A. Bell was now an orphan redirect page (nothing else linked to it) I deleted it. The rationale about it being implausible was due to your assertion that nobody should be searching for an article about you with a middle initial 'A'.
If you are not, in fact, a genealogist, please suggest a better name for the article about you and I will be happy to rename it. Bear in mind, however, that it cannot be named Robert Bell. It needs some sort of parenthetical disambiguator to distinguish you from the many other Robert Bells who have Wikipedia articles. ~Amatulić (talk) 16:05, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
- Hi Amatulic, Thank you for your thoughtful reply and sorry for all the trouble I put you to. If you could change the article title to "Robert Bell (Editor)", that would probably be the best solution. I don't know who entered the original article but I hope it survives my clumsy attempts to make it accurate. I am now very impressed by the professionism of you guys and am enamoured of becoming an editor myself. Again thanks. Rookie Roberto Bello. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roberto Bello (talk • contribs) 21:59, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
- Let's keep the conversation on your talk page. It's on my watch list so I will see replies you make here. Before I rename the article again, I'll point out that the article currently describes you as a "writer and editor". Is that more accurate than just "editor"? If so, I can rename the article to Robert Bell (writer and editor) or Robert Bell (editor), whichever is preferable.
- Robert Bell (writer) is taken, but that could also be renamed to Robert Bell (19th century writer) if the "writer" disambiguation is more correct for you (provided, of course, that the 19th century gentleman isn't better known than you as a writer).
- Please reply on this page. Oh, and you can sign your comments by appending four tildes (~~~~), which will get converted to your username. ~Amatulić (talk) 22:10, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
Thanks Amatulic, The 19th century gentleman is more well known than me, so probably Robert Bell (writer and editor) would be best. I presume this is the way to reply - by editing the stream? Roberto Bello (talk) 22:24, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
- Your reply is fine. I have moved the article to Robert Bell (writer and editor) and changed the links in associated pages. I left Robert Bell (genealogist) as a redirect to the new title.
- By the way, please read Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, because you obviously have a conflict of interest with respect to an article about yourself. Nobody would object if you perform minor maintenance edits (spelling and grammar corrections, formatting, things like that), but for anything more significant it's best to use the talk page (Talk:Robert Bell (writer and editor)) to propose changes you would like to make. A significant change you made resulted in the warning you received from Orange Mike earlier, above. ~Amatulić (talk) 22:52, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
- What "health warning"? I am unsure of what you mean.
- If you're referring to Orange Mike's notice above, well, this is your talk page and you may remove it if you desire. I erred in referring to it as a warning. It's more of a notification, for your information, to give you a better understanding of how things work.
- If you're referring to the notability tag at the top of Robert Bell (writer and editor), that doesn't mean the article will be deleted. It's simply a tag to notify others that the article needs to be brought into conformance with Wikipedia:Notability and in particular Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Creative professionals. Primarily, the article doesn't currently include evidence that you or your works have received significant coverage in independent reliable sources (such as evidence that your work has been cited by others, or book reviews in mainstream media). If you know of any, you are welcome to propose changes on the article's talk page. ~Amatulić (talk) 23:26, 14 November 2012 (UTC)