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The WikiEagle - March–April 2022

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The WikiEagle - May 2022

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The WikiEagle - June 2022

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BLR Airport

Hi, Hope you are doing good. Would like to know your opinion on this one [1] In this revision, a user called Random Haste added that a study was conducted for building a Hyperloop to KIA Airport. Do you think is this necessary now? I don't actually think so. I reverted this saying that it needs 10 more years for the concept of hyperloop to even become a reality, and a hyperloop in India may take too long. He is reverting my edits. What do you suggest?. Would like to know your thoughts Thanks.Wikieditor3453 (talk) 12:09, 11 June 2022 (UTC)

  • @Wikieditor3453: Hello! I agree; I don't believe we should mention a feasibility study in the article. Once they announce that they will actually build it, then I think it will become notable. I will also ping @Random Haste so they can explain their position. Sunnya343 (talk) 02:34, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
    Under next few months, the feasibility study of connecting the city with airport using hyperloop will most probably be completed. The thing i am saying is the MoU has been signed indicating the possibility of such project to happen. No one wrote it is happening next year. It is in the planning stage is what mentioned. If even it doesn't happens, is it wrong to mention about the projects which was actually planned but was not executed due to some reasons??? Random Haste (talk) 04:19, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

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Hi. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion going involving your recent editing activities at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a violation of Wikipedia's policies on edit warring. Shayan MB24 (talk) 02:52, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

Warning about edit warring at Mehrabad International Airport

Please note that while I am not currently blocking either of you, you are both engaged in an edit war at Mehrabad International Airport; please take this as a warning to discontinue reverting in this manner, as further edit warring may lead to one of both editors being blocked. Use the article's talk page and come to a consensus before reverting each other further; dispute resolution options such as WP:3O and WP:DRN are available if outside input in needed to help reach a consensus on the material. Thank you. - Aoidh (talk) 19:47, 15 September 2023 (UTC)

September 2023

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You have been blocked from editing from certain pages (Mehrabad International Airport) for a period of 1 week for edit warring. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.
During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please review Wikipedia's guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text to the bottom of your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Aoidh (talk) 20:31, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
This user's unblock request has been reviewed by an administrator, who accepted the request.

Sunnya343 (block logactive blocksglobal blockscontribsdeleted contribsfilter logcreation logchange block settingsunblockcheckuser (log))


Request reason:

Today, I only edited the "Facilities" and "Accidents and incidents" sections of the article. In both cases, I cited a reference and/or provided an edit summary. The focus of the edit war was the "Airlines and destinations" table, which I have not modified since 9/13. I started a discussion on the article's talk page two days ago and have requested a WP:3O. Sunnya343 (talk) 21:24, 16 September 2023 (UTC)

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It's rare for me to lift a partial block from one article, as you can sort out and request edits on the talk page, but I think in this case you should have a chance to show us you can act correctly with your edits, so I will remove the block. Pinging Aoidh. 331dot (talk) 23:40, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

Providing an edit summary does not mean you can continue to revert to your preferred version. The Facilities section is part of the edit warring that the above warning is focused on, which was given per the reports filed at ANEW. You have been partially blocked and are only blocked from editing this one particular article; you may still use the article's talk page to reach a consensus and participate in any dispute resolution with the partial block in place. - Aoidh (talk) 22:13, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
@Aoidh: I don't mean to nitpick, but I ask that an admin other than the one who blocked me review my appeal per WP:GAB. Not that I expect a different result, just that I wanted someone else to review the issue as well. I thought that Aoidh's comment was the review of my appeal, but now I realize it wasn't. Sunnya343 (talk) 17:19, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
I accept that the edit war also involved the Facilities section. However, I wanted to add that before the edit war, that section contained no references at all (link). When I made my original edit to that section, I added a ref and gave an explanation (diff). In my view, the other editor never gave a solid reason for reverting my edit to that section:
  • "You have no right to remove all that information without any sources just because you think it is not encyclopedic." (diff)
  • "Instead of removing usual information because of the lame excuse, try to put in work and add proper referencing." (diff)
After their reverts, the ref I had added to the section remained, but the unreferenced info returned, making it look like my ref supported that info (link). The other editor then added a ref to the bullet point on Terminal 3 that did not actually support it (diff). That's why I undid those edits.
I am just frustrated because I feel that I was trying to improve referencing in the article, and I believe the other editor did not provide a solid reason for reverting those edits. I acknowledge, though, that it was an edit war and that we are not supposed to have discussions with other editors via edit summaries.
If my block were removed, I would undo my edit on 9/16 and replace "Mehrabad International Airport consists of 4 terminals" with "Mehrabad International Airport consists of four passenger terminals". Then I would discuss on the Talk page the inclusion of which airline uses which terminal. I started a discussion on the Talk. (Please note that I am not the IP who made the two edits on 9/14. I wish there were a way to prove this.) Sunnya343 (talk) 03:09, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
Note that it's standard procedure for a different admin to review an appeal. 331dot (talk) 08:28, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
My advice is that you first sort out on the talk page the edits that need to be made before editing the article itself. 331dot (talk) 08:31, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
@331dot: OK, I understand and will do so. Is it possible for the block to be reduced, maybe to 24 hours? I do not have an extensive history of making disruptive edits and being blocked, and I had been making constructive edits to the article (eg 1, 2, 3). In light of that, I feel like a week is too long. I was hoping to add to the History section (will not be modifying Facilities or Airlines and Destinations). I have also shown that I am willing to stop the edit war (admittedly, I only stopped editing the table, but I recognize the mistake) and start a discussion on the Talk page. Sunnya343 (talk) 15:39, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
Just for clarification, my comment below your unblock request was not a review of the block in any way, but context for both you and the reviewing admin as to why the block was made. - Aoidh (talk) 15:18, 17 September 2023 (UTC)
@Aoidh: OK, thank you for the clarification. Sunnya343 (talk) 15:40, 17 September 2023 (UTC)

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Hello, Sunnya343,

I finally went to look over this review and I wanted to say how impressed I was with your presentation of this AFD discussion and explanation of why you were asking for a review. Typically, when my AFD closures have been reviewed at DRV, some editors have gotten very personal and focused on me and my abilities as an administrator but you offered a nice presentation of the past history of RFCs/AFDs on these airline articles and an analysis of the AFD discussion as you saw it. Although I assessed the consensus differently than you did, I do not feel personally raked over the coals and I'm grateful for that. DRV discussions also take a week and if it is overturned, then that is the consensus but I'm glad that this review has focused on the subject and policy instead of the closer. I think that's how it should be and I just hope a few more people show up to participate in the review. Thanks again for your even-handed approach. Liz Read! Talk! 04:04, 4 April 2024 (UTC)

Hi Liz, thank you for your kind words. I am glad to have a productive, civil discussion on this controversial topic. Sunnya343 (talk) 19:14, 4 April 2024 (UTC)