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There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Single purpose account POV-pushing against academia and common sense, probable troll. Thank you. Ian.thomson (talk) 01:01, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
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{{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}. However, you should read the guide to appealing blocks first. The Bushranger One ping only 05:32, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
TheLeopardTree (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
I have addressed the three criteria I failed to meet with my initial proposal. I still feel they aren't necessary since the proposal is based in diction, but dictionaries vary and definitions do change in time. Furthermore, and more importantly, policies and standards exist with reason and it is the onus of all contributors to follow those guidelines when submitting content; content subject to general- and community-approval. I respectfully request reinstatement of my ability to post edit-requests. I should not be held accountable for others faults, only my own. I hope this shows I am here to contribute meaningfully, and any future edits would be submitted with due diligence to both intellectual honesty and academic protocol. --- God is a concept espoused by, and oft debated amongst, philosophers. This concept attempts to explain an immeasurable phenomenon, much like our concept of time; just as time is not a fixed, static reality the broad philosophical concept of god is neither fixed or static. God is a symbol that represents human explanation of the universe; its creation, continued existence, and the mechanisms by which the universe continues to be. Each culture has it's own interpretation of god based largely on tradition, heritage, and common mores. Christianity divides god into two opposed concepts, named God and Satan, to explain the nature of existence whereas Native Americans express a wide diversity of beliefs concerning the nature of god. Whilst there are, oftentimes, vast differences between interpretations they all abide by the defined idea that god is "the supreme or ultimate truth or reality". Athiests, who deny the validity of theism and its theistic-interpretations based in faith, often adopt a scientific interpretation of god in their attempts to describe, explain, and ultimately understand the phenomenon we call existence. Jainists, Wiccans, Norse, Greeks, et at. & etc.[1][2][3] describe the nature of being differently, though all describe god. Deism (from Latin deus "god", '-ism'[4]? embraces the existence of god, inculcated by theism, while rejecting the supernatural influence depicted in religion. Some theologans have postulated interpretations of god evolve [5]? in tandem with the evolution of culture, heritage, and mores. Notable religious leaders have opined that religion, faith, and an understanding of god is wholly personal and that a strong belief in your understanding of god was more important that the god you choose to define your understanding.[6][7][8]? Ghandi suggested an understanding of god was not subject to ones religion ?[9] ? and the Pope has voiced similar opinion.??[10] Martin Luther King, Jr. explained that interpretations of god are not competition but differences in understanding.[11]?
Decline reason:
I am declining your unblock request because it does not address the reason for your block, or because it is inadequate for other reasons. To be unblocked, you must convince the reviewing administrator(s) that
- the block is not necessary to prevent damage or disruption to Wikipedia, or
- the block is no longer necessary because you
- understand what you have been blocked for,
- will not continue to cause damage or disruption, and
- will make useful contributions instead.
Please read the guide to appealing blocks for more information. PhilKnight (talk) 08:44, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
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TheLeopardTree (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
If it the opinion of the administrative committee that I have been blocked for submitting "original content" I assure you that is simply not the case.
But, in the interest of fairness, justice, compromise, and academic equitability I will revise my current edit (previously referred to as content, which has raised eyebrows) to a finessed, nuanced edit rather than a comprehensive overhaul.
1, "In theism" [citation needed].
2, "In deism" [citation needed].
3, "In pantheism" [citation needed].
4, "In atheism" Definition of "God" needed. Specifically " (In Christianity and other monotheistic religions) the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being".
5, "the greatest possible existent" needs to be removed, replaced in a new sentence starting after "object of faith", and reworded as "The term god itself is most-broadly defined as "the greatest possible existent"[previously cited]".
I am dismissing the trolling complaint altogether. If Plaintiff had understood the diction he would already understand "disbelief or lack of belief in the existence of God or gods" (in a religious context, which that definition is - a religious context) is not the same as disbelieving god philosophically as "the greatest possible existent". If he denies the existence of the greatest possible existent than I understand that is a belief but is certainly not the position of most athiests I've encountered and borders on single-POV badgering and additionally imposes nonexistent criterion upon the definition of atheism. Furthermore, I included "most" and never said "all". Since he was never present for discourse - I doubt he understands the nuance well enough, and has shown no ability or effort to do so - his duplicitous complaints and personal attacks are untrue.
So far I have addressed: lack of verifiability, lack of sources, burden of contribution, adhering to Wikipedia protocols, no original content, single-POV allegations, and trolling(?). What remains is finding Clue (which apparently doesn't exist in the WP pages) so it is safe to assume that is administrative veto without merit - a clause and power that surely exists though far-be-it from me to understand how&why that would ever be enforced. If additional charges have been levied against me do tell. Perhaps you could just cite the entirety of protocols and say I violated every one as I'm sure that is what Plaintiff imagined when I said athiests "often adopt a scientific explanation of god" so I can adequately address, to the Plaintiff, why he is simply treading foul territory here.
Thank you for your time and consideration, may ethics bind you. Honestly & Respectfully, TheLeopardTree (talk) 18:11, 22 August 2014 (UTC)Leo
Decline reason:
Per tiresome wikilawyering and failure to acknowledge reason for block. OhNoitsJamie Talk 18:32, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
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TheLeopardTree (block log • active blocks • global blocks • contribs • deleted contribs • filter log • creation log • change block settings • unblock • checkuser (log))
Request reason:
Look I want the same things you do. I've made my case so everyone knows where I stand, would you please unblock me so I can address the inaccuracies in the diction. I've made every attempt to constructively build the encyclopedia. So far I've been the victim of "Narrow self interest and/or promotion", "General pattern of disruptive behavior", "Treating editing as a battleground", "Little or no interest in working collaboratively", "Major or irreconcilable conflict of attitude or intention", and dishonest editing.
"Inconsistent long-term agenda" please realize this is/was my first edit.
Specifically
1, "In theism" [citation needed].
2, "In deism" [citation needed].
3, "In pantheism" [citation needed].
4, "In atheism" Definition of "God" needed. Specifically " (In Christianity and other monotheistic religions) the creator and ruler of the universe and source of all moral authority; the supreme being".
5, "the greatest possible existent" needs to be removed, replaced in a new sentence starting after "object of faith", and reworded as "The word god is most-broadly defined as "the greatest possible existent"[previously cited]". TheLeopardTree (talk) 19:10, 22 August 2014 (UTC)Leo
State_(polity) "A state is an organized community living under one government"
revision: A state is "an organized political community". per Oxford definitions 2 & 2.1? TheLeopardTree (talk) 19:29, 22 August 2014 (UTC)Leo
Government "A government is the system by which a state or community is governed"
revision: Government is the means by which governance is enforced. It refers to "The group of people with the authority to govern", "The system by which a state or community is governed", and "The action or manner of controlling or regulating". per Oxford definitions 1, 1.1, & 1.2 TheLeopardTree (talk) 19:36, 22 August 2014 (UTC)Leo
Law "Law is, generally, a system of rules which are enforced through social institutions to govern behaviour,[2] although the term "law" has no universally accepted definition."
revision: Law is "a system of rules"?? transmitted to our senses through written word, oration, physical reinforcement, etc. TheLeopardTree (talk) 19:50, 22 August 2014 (UTC)Leo
Music "Music is an art form whose medium is sound"
revision: Music is art transmitted through sound. or, at the very least: Music is the form of art whose medium is sound. TheLeopardTree (talk) 19:56, 22 August 2014 (UTC)Leo
Nirvana_(band) "Despite releasing only three full-length studio albums in their seven-year career, Nirvana has come to be regarded as one of the most influential and important rock bands of the modern era."
revision: Despite releasing three full-length studio albums in a seven-year career, Nirvana is widely regarded as one of the most influential rock bands of their generation. TheLeopardTree (talk) 20:08, 22 August 2014 (UTC)Leo
Grunge "referred to as the Seattle sound" revision: 'Seattle sound' "growling" vocals revision: growling vocals, no quotations "apathetic or angst-filled lyrics"
revision: anti-social lyrics TheLeopardTree (talk) 20:15, 22 August 2014 (UTC)Leo
Anarchy "Anarchism is generally defined as the political philosophy which holds the state to be immoral"
revision: Anarchy is generally considered a political philosophy which regards the prevailing state as immoral. TheLeopardTree (talk) 20:21, 22 August 2014 (UTC)Leo
Socrates "According to Xenophon's story, Socrates purposefully gave a defiant defense to the jury because "he believed he would be better off dead". Xenophon goes on to describe a defense by Socrates that explains the rigors of old age, and how Socrates would be glad to circumvent them by being sentenced to death. It is also understood that Socrates also wished to die because he "actually believed the right time had come for him to die." Xenophon and Plato agree that Socrates had an opportunity to escape, as his followers were able to bribe the prison guards. There have been several suggestions offered as reasons why he chose to stay: 1.He believed such a flight would indicate a fear of death, which he believed no true philosopher has. 2.If he fled Athens his teaching would fare no better in another country, as he would continue questioning all he met and undoubtedly incur their displeasure. 3.Having knowingly agreed to live under the city's laws, he implicitly subjected himself to the possibility of being accused of crimes by its citizens and judged guilty by its jury. To do otherwise would have caused him to break his "social contract" with the state, and so harm the state, an unprincipled act."
revisions: "According to Xenophon's story" [citation needed]
"1. He ... has" [citation needed]
"2. If ... displeasure" [citation needed]
"3. Having ... act" [citation needed]
addition: Socrates postulated only "the one who knows" can know. [The Trial of Socrates, Stone, I. F., 1989, 978-0385260329] TheLeopardTree (talk) 20:38, 22 August 2014 (UTC)Leo
Decline reason:
I don't care what edits you want to make, I want to see evidence you understand why you were blocked and what general behavioural adjustments you will make to prevent being blocked again, if you were to be unblocked. Nick (talk) 21:01, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
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- You do realize that you're digging your hole deeper with such a long-winded unblock request that still fails to address the reason you were blocked in the first place. OhNoitsJamie Talk 20:51, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
I am unaccustomed to speaking with others who know. Most just scream and shout and generally bang around acting ignorant.
In my defense he jumped in front of my edit without warning, voluntarily. I should've contacted the authorities immediately, that was my err.
{{unblock|1=I apologize for my behavior and will edit with care while keeping the administration informed on any future events similar to these while doing my level-best to uphold the policies as established by the Wikipedia Administation and working with other contributors collaboratively & constructively towards the ultimate goal of improving the Wikipedia.org website for all users.}}TheLeopardTree (talk) 21:42, 22 August 2014 (UTC)Leo
- And what exactly were the policies and guidelines you were going against? We just need to know you understand why you were blocked. We already assume that you were (possibly) trying to help as you understood it, but (assuming you were trying to help) there were problems in your methods of helping, not in your desire to help. Do you know what those wrong methods were, and what the preferred methods are? The former were pointed out multiple times, and the latter were explained. If you do not understand what you did wrong, what's to stop you from going right back to the sort of behavior that got you blocked to begin with? Ian.thomson (talk) 22:09, 22 August 2014 (UTC)
I have covered my appeal fully in preceding posts. Will someone kindly remove Ian from my page, thank you.
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, you may be blocked from editing.
TheLeopardTree (talk) 23:49, 22 August 2014 (UTC)Leo
Talk page access revoked
[edit]- ^ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religions
- ^ Morford, Mark P.O., Lenardon, Robert J., Sham, Michael. Classical Mythology, 2010. ISBN-13: 978-0195397703
- ^ Smith, Huston. The World's Religions, 2009. ISBN-13: 9780061660184.
- ^ http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?allowed_in_frame=0&search=deism&searchmode=none
- ^ Fisher, Mary Pat. Living Religions, 2013. ISBN-13: 978-0205956401
- ^ "I came to the conclusion long ago … that all religions were true and also that all had some error in them, and whilst I hold by my own, I should hold others as dear as Hinduism. So we can only pray, if we are Hindus, not that a Christian should become a Hindu … But our innermost prayer should be a Hindu should be a better Hindu, a Muslim a better Muslim, a Christian a better Christian."― Mahatma Ghandi
- ^ "Don't compare me with Jesus. He is a great master, a great master..." - Dalai Lama XIV
- ^ “This is my simple religion. No need for temples. No need for complicated philosophy. Your own mind, your own heart is the temple. Your philosophy is simple kindness.” ― Dalai Lama XIV
- ^ "Yes I am, I am also a Muslim, a Christian, a Buddhist, and a Jew." ― Mahatma Ghandi
- ^ "The Catholic Church is aware of the importance of promoting friendship and respect between men and women of different religious traditions – I wish to repeat this: promoting friendship and respect between men and women of different religious traditions" - Pope Francis
- ^ "Science investigates; religion interprets. Science gives man knowledge, which is power; religion gives man wisdom, which is control. Science deals mainly with facts; religion deals mainly with values. The two are not rivals." ― Martin Luther King, Jr.