User talk:Thewikiman24

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Happy editing! Peaceray (talk) 16:50, 6 January 2024 (UTC)

War guilt question

Hi, Thewikiman24, and I also wanted to welcome you to Wikipedia! I noticed this edit of yours at the article War guilt question, and it seems to me your edit adds a sentence with a subject, but no predicate, leaving only an ungrammatical sentence fragment. Can you have another look, and make a full sentence out of it? Thanks, and once again, welcome! Mathglot (talk) 10:49, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Hi Mathglot. Thank you for pointing that out. I have gone back to the page and changed the sentence to be grammatical. Thanks again for the note. Thewikiman24 (talk) 14:02, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Thanks, that makes much more sense now.

On a related issue, I need your help with something. In your edit that fixed that (diff), Visual Editor did something very weird with the referencing: after adding a VE-style name attribute of name=":0"to the pre-existing ushmm reference (unnecessary, but acceptable), it then added a second named ref (<ref name=":0" />) with the same ref name right after the first ref, which is both unnecessary and pointless, as it simply cites the same source twice in a row. If you look at the end of section § Innocence campaign (permalink), it now looks like this:

...and lead to calls to retake the lost land.

which of course is senseless. The reason I mention it is because I follow issues and problems with Visual Editor (see WP:VENAMEDREFS) and I'm trying to find out how this happened, because if it's a bug in the software, it needs to be reported so it can be fixed. (No need to fix the article again to remove the duplicate ref; we can just leave it that way for now.)

So here is where you come in: when you were making that last fix to War guilt question just now, do you remember what if anything you tried to do with the reference, or were you strictly adding the new text? If I write a bug report for this, it will be helpful if we can record as much as we know about exactly what happened, so if you don't mind, please think about that edit, and jot down some notes for yourself about what you did, step by step, in as much detail as you can recall; we might need it later for the report. Thanks, Mathglot (talk) 20:43, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Yes, that appears as though I used a source that had already been cited for that section, and so when putting in the citation I did not see that it was the exact same source as was used previously, and so that citation got duplicated. I don't think it was a bug, simply that I and another editor used the exact same source for that particular section, and I just didn't see that that those two citations were from the exact same source. Thewikiman24 (talk) 20:56, 1 February 2024 (UTC)

Aha, that's good, then; so there's no VE bug to report. Feel free to drop the second ref if you want, or somebody else will eventually (but not right now please, as I'm making some unrelated fixes to referencing; maybe wait a bit). Thanks again for working to improve War guilt question. Mathglot (talk) 21:38, 1 February 2024 (UTC)