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Thank you
Thanks for uploading the new Uni of London Logo Toshio and for your efforts on Talk:University of London. I agree that the arms is less recognisable and more decorative. Their new logo is more a representation of the institution. Thanks 193.32.30.68 (talk) 09:11, 27 July 2011 (UTC) Daniel
You're the best
Toshio, you're the best. Your idea at the village pump to archive citations for FA's looks like it's getting the attention of the community. I just wanted to stop by and thank you for your help. That was a great idea and I really appreciate your work on this issue. Thanks very much. - Hydroxonium (T•C•V) 19:38, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
- I am also very happy to see that receiving a wider input from the community. It seems we have to start at a small scale first. If this gets consensus and yields satisfying results, then I think it will be much easier to extent it to all articles on the English Wikipedia. :) Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 19:47, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
- Agreed. I have a good feeling about this one.
Thanks again. - Hydroxonium (T•C•V) 19:56, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
- Agreed. I have a good feeling about this one.
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Chzz ► 16:03, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
- Hello Toshio,
The day after tomorrow, I will be traveling to East Africa for the next six months. I will have limited access to the Internet while on my trip. I will be back in North America in late February 2012. I hope to resume editing on Wikipedia in March 2012. Thanks. Fsmatovu (talk) 19:04, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
- I replied at User talk:Fsmatovu#Splitting list of conglomerates. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 19:27, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Sample of ArchiveLinks Extension Deployed
Hey in the interest of keeping you in the loop I'd like to let you know we have a sample of ArchiveLinks available at Commons Prototype. Thanks, --Kevin Brown (talk) 17:43, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks Kevin. Just a question. When I click on the cache link, it says Resource is not in archive. Does it simply take a while for the Internet Archive Wayback Machine to make the link available or is there some other issue? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 18:48, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
- Hi Toshio. I'm not certain, but I think it's an issue with the Internet Archive. I checked several of Kevin's tests and most worked flawlessly, but some acted strange. A few would initially stated "hrm....", but would go to the archive if I clicked a second time. - Hydroxonium (T•C•V) 20:04, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
- The extension is currently set up to function in one of two modes. The first is where you run a spider locally and download and store all the pages yourself. Another is where you can have the extension generate of feed of new links that have been added to the wiki for an external archive service (archive.org in this case) to crawl and archive on demand. The way we are looking of going for a wikimedia deployment is route #2 due to the security risks of going the first way, as well as the overhead of managing the legal aspects. Viney Goel at archive.org has been working on having their spiders consume the feed on their end and archive everything that they need to. When this (hopefully) gets deployed in addition the extension should provide the link to the archive of when the page was first added, which will be stored in a new database table. There are no plans to check if a link is valid before putting it on the page since link generation is going on at the time of rendering and doing something that would needlessly increase rending time several fold. So just because a link exists on a page it may not actually work. Anyways I hope this answers your questions, if you have anything else please feel free to fire away :D. --Kevin Brown (talk) 03:53, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
- You can see the feed here. --Kevin Brown (talk) 04:00, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
Jayalaithaa
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=J._Jayalalithaa&action=historysubmit&diff=447700445&oldid=447699513 Help needed in incorporating the facts present in my version and to stop monopoly of certain users (names can be seen in history page).Typekept (talk) 19:04, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
wikiwix archive
See this, we have already make our job since few months :) http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ARequests_for_comment%2FArchived_citations_2&action=historysubmit&diff=432915205&oldid=432374969 . Pmartin (talk) 14:29, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, Pmartin. Just out of interest, are there any statistics available on how much of Wikipedias links have already been archived and how this progresses? Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 14:34, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
- We don't have working in statistics module, it s very easy to count them with the dump of Fondation. The link it is one thinks better to count the hit because in our archive system we storage also pdf, css, picture, .... Pmartin (talk) 15:12, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
Did you mean to put Purpose of ToshioBot in the article space? I'm pretty sure it doesn't belong there... —KuyaBriBriTalk 15:03, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the notification. I have no idea why it appeared in mainspace. I didn't move it there, but I moved it back. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 15:08, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
- I figured that was your intent; I just thought I'd ask first. I've placed a db-r2 tag on the mainspace page. —KuyaBriBriTalk 15:14, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
New Article
So I made a subpage,from what you told me to do, and I typed out what I'm planning to have in my article....can other people look at my subpage? If I wanted to get their opinion on my article? Also can I add a photo? sorry I have alot of questions :) Jkathleen88 (talk) 19:33, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
- I looked at your article draft. The most important thing is you need to establish Shane Stevens notability (see Wikipedia:Notability). Briefly that means the information in your article needs to come from reliable sources (see Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources) independent of the subject (see Wikipedia:Independent sources). For example articles in newspapers are generally good sources and often websites. Everything in a Wikipedia article needs already to have been published somewhere else (see also Wikipedia:Citing sources for more information on that).
- So what you should do next is show where the information in your article draft comes from. Name the website, book or magazine where you got the information. This is needed because all information in Wikipedia articles must have been previously published elsewhere.
- You can request feedback on your article at Wikipedia:Requests for feedback. In the current state however they will most likely tell you the same as I did here.
- Regarding the photo, you can do that. You have to first upload the photo in order to add it to your article (see Help:Files for more information). Generally, all images used on Wikipedia must have been published under a free license, although there are some exceptions. If you have a specific photo and need to figure out whether it is under a free license or not, you can ask at Wikipedia:Media Copyright Questions.
- I know this is a long answer, so if you need further help with something, you can always come back and ask me here or at the Help desk.
- Ok I'm going to start getting sources, if it's alright (when I finish that) will you look at it again for me? and just let me know what you think? I have a picure already, so I'm going to attempt to get that up as well......we'll see Thank you for all your help! :)Jkathleen88 (talk) 14:42, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
- No problem. :) If you have developed your draft further, just let me know and I will take a look at it.
Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 18:29, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
- No problem. :) If you have developed your draft further, just let me know and I will take a look at it.
Also...my account says I need to create my userpage...what am I supposed to write? Jkathleen88 (talk) 16:27, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
- On your userpage, you can put some information about yourself, if you like (but you are not required to provide any information). It is best, not to provide any contact details (such as email addresses), as this could lead to you receiving spam (see also Wikipedia:User pages for more general information). Many users decide to put userboxes on their userpages (see Wikipedia:Userboxes) to tell others about themselves, but again this is completely optional. If there is information about you which you do not want the entire internet to know (such as where you live or your eMail adress), it is best not to provide such information (remember that people such as spammers also may have access to such information). Many editors choose to give information about what their interests here at Wikipedia are (what kind of articles they edit etc.). If you want to have some ideas on how your userpage should look, you can take a look at Wikipedia:User page design center. Finally, there are some things which you may not put in your userspace (see What may I not have in my user pages?). Best :). Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 18:29, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
I can't figure out how to put a picture up..I don't know what I'm missing...I just can't figure out what all I need to do Jkathleen88 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 21:30, 15 September 2011 (UTC).
- I need a bit more details to help you. Where is the picture you want to upload and where do you want to put it? In order to put a picture on an article, that picture needs to be uploaded first. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 22:02, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
I have the picture on my computer. Where do I upload it to? I'm sorry I am so bad with technology Jkathleen88 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 18:21, 20 September 2011 (UTC).
- Below the Wikipedia logo, there is a small triangle where it says "Toolbox". Below the word "Toolbox" there should be "Upload file" (if it is not there, click on the word "Toolbox" to uncollapse it). Click on "Upload file". A page will appear with a big question mark on the right side. Below where it says "Where is the media from?" choose the right option that applies to the picture you want to upload. For example, if you made the picture yourself (such as a photograph of a building which you took with your camera) you should choose "It is entirely my own work". If you are unsure what the correct license is, feel free to ask me, but I will need to know who made this picture and what it shows. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 18:43, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
thanks
Thanks for your work fixing that NBL player infobox. Its always the way that one fix leads to other things needing updating. Your thoroughness is appreciated. Cheers. MarnetteD | Talk 21:47, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
- No problem, you are welcome. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 22:08, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
Thanks for trying and verifying the PDF Render problem, and for raising the technical issue (I don't know how to do that). If it works for some articles, but not others, I guess it must be some format/syntax/font issue? If it doesn't render for anything, then it's a huge issue and students doing research might get peeved. If it's just certain militarily sensitive issues, then its probably a government job (Denial of Service or server hacking?). At least other people see it as a problem too. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.52.212.244 (talk) 21:27, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
Mystery
Please solve this mystery if you can...
On September 23rd, traffic to Portal:James Bond doubled, and has stayed at the new level since then. I can't figure out what happened.
See http://stats.grok.se/en/201109/Portal%3AJames_Bond
Traffic to Outline of James Bond stayed the same (though it was at the higher-level already), which leads me to suspect changes made somewhere in Wikipedia.
See http://stats.grok.se/en/201109/Outline%20of%20James_Bond
I'd like to find out what happened, in case it reveals helpful link placement tips that can double the traffic to outlines too!
I look forward to your reply on my talk page. The Transhumanist 23:06, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
Welcome to the Outlines WikiProject
Hi.
Welcome. I'm glad you've joined.
There is lots going on. Much work to be done.
The main activity right now is refining the existing outlines.
The four main problems in outlines are:
- Navigation footers placed in the middle of outlines. They are a problem because they are not in outline format (hierarchically indented), are disparate from the rest of the outline's contents (changes to them don't show up on the outline's edit history), and they don't support annotations. To fix, paste the data into the outline and convert it into outline format.
- Lead paragraphs in sections. Convert to annotated list entries.
- General concepts section. This heading is too vague. It was adopted as a place to put links when first starting an outline. These sections need to be replaced with more specific sections, and the links placed within the more specific sections.
- List section. Same problem as General concepts section. Get rid of the section, and place the list links in whatever sections are relevant. There should be no list or "list of" sections. Make no distinction between list links and article links.
Other refinements needed:
- Add annotations. After a list entry, add an en dash followed by a brief description of the listed topic. The most visible outline-related page that is incomplete is Portal:Contents/Outlines. It is very important that we finish filling in the annotations for this page! (Note that country outline links on this page don't need annotations, just the entries in the other sections). Outlines with annotation underway include:
- Pictures. Preferably not the same ones that are in the corresponding articles. Alternate pictures can be found at commons:.
- Missing topics, with annotations
For an example of a fully annotated outline, see Outline of forestry.
If you'd like to work on the outlines I'm working on, look at my contribs and jump on in!
If you have any questions at all, I'll be very happy to answer them. Thank you for joining! The Transhumanist 23:44, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
Most important task
Just to be clear, the most important task for the outline project is filling in the annotations at Portal:Contents/Outlines.
I've been chipping away at it, but I could sure use some help. The Transhumanist 23:47, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
Question
Hi. I have been on Wikipedia since two years. If you see my work, you will understand that i know what is a rationale. But since you are removing the sample, can you please explain to me what is a rationale. Do not wiki-link me to some policies. Please explain it in your own words. And since you are talking about rationale, i would be very happy if you could go on other album articles to see how music samples are being used and most importantly, the number of music samples being used. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 12:32, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- By the way, did you listen to the sample and read the text below? If you have some knowledge about music, you will have understood something? I am not being rude. I am just asking. (Clarifying this in case you take it negatively). ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 12:38, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry for the brief delay, I had a phone call. Please read WP:NFCC#Policy. The file is non-free and point 10c at the policy page I linked to requires that the file has a separate non-free use rationale for each article where the file is used. Currently it only has a rationale for Love on Top, but not for 4 (Beyoncé Knowles album) and per Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria#Enforcement it must be removed from the article until it has rationale. If you want to include the file, please add a rationale see Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline for how to write one. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 12:46, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- It's okay. You do not have to be sorry for that. Wait, what are you trying to imply? Do you even know what you wrote? The music sample should have a rationale for the album. This is the FIRST time i am hearing such a thing. The music sample is about the song not about the album and the song forms part of the album. We do not use a music sample to demonstrate an album directly. This is IMPOSSIBLE. Sorry to tell you this but it does not make sense. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 12:56, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- It is not impossible. You can use {{Non-free use rationale}} for that. See in particular in the section Usage at the template documentation. The description of the Low resolution parameter says "...for audio, this would be the bit rate and sample resolution used". Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 13:14, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- If i understand well, the sample does not merit to be there simply because it has no relation with the album? I s that your point? I request you to reply quickly, i will not be here for long. I currently have exams. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 13:17, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- No, I say that the sample file needs a seperate rationale for its use in 4 (Beyoncé Knowles album), similar to that it already has for Love on Top. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 13:20, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- And what was wrong with the rationale that was already on 4? I simply cannot understand what is wrong. I read everything to which you linked me. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 13:22, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- (edit conflict) The file is used in Love on Top and has {{Non-free use rationale audio sample}} with a wikilink to Love on Top as the 'Article' parameter. You need to add a second instance of {{Non-free use rationale audio sample}} to the Summary section at File:08-beyonce-love on top.ogg with a wikilink to 4 (Beyoncé Knowles album) as the 'Article' parameter. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 13:33, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- And what was wrong with the rationale that was already on 4? I simply cannot understand what is wrong. I read everything to which you linked me. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 13:22, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- No, I say that the sample file needs a seperate rationale for its use in 4 (Beyoncé Knowles album), similar to that it already has for Love on Top. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 13:20, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- If i understand well, the sample does not merit to be there simply because it has no relation with the album? I s that your point? I request you to reply quickly, i will not be here for long. I currently have exams. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 13:17, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- It is not impossible. You can use {{Non-free use rationale}} for that. See in particular in the section Usage at the template documentation. The description of the Low resolution parameter says "...for audio, this would be the bit rate and sample resolution used". Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 13:14, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- It's okay. You do not have to be sorry for that. Wait, what are you trying to imply? Do you even know what you wrote? The music sample should have a rationale for the album. This is the FIRST time i am hearing such a thing. The music sample is about the song not about the album and the song forms part of the album. We do not use a music sample to demonstrate an album directly. This is IMPOSSIBLE. Sorry to tell you this but it does not make sense. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 12:56, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- Sorry for the brief delay, I had a phone call. Please read WP:NFCC#Policy. The file is non-free and point 10c at the policy page I linked to requires that the file has a separate non-free use rationale for each article where the file is used. Currently it only has a rationale for Love on Top, but not for 4 (Beyoncé Knowles album) and per Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria#Enforcement it must be removed from the article until it has rationale. If you want to include the file, please add a rationale see Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline for how to write one. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 12:46, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- I have changed it. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 13:27, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- Okay. Now i understand. Well i did not know about that. Thank you very much,. I hope i did not sound harsh. I assure that i am not like that. Thanks again for letting know. However, i still want to tell you again what i told you above. Many articles use music samples with no rationale and the problem often lies in the number of music samples they used. I think you should pay more attention to that. I am not trying to dictate to you what you should do. Just telling you what the main problem is on Wikipedia when it comes articles related to music. Happy editing. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 13:40, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- It is not working. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 13:44, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- Can you please do it? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 13:45, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 13:50, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- No problem. Please note for the future that the person who wants to include the non-free file must add the rationale (see WP:NFCC#Enforcement). Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 13:54, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you very much. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 13:50, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- Can you please do it? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 13:45, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- It is not working. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 13:44, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- Okay. Now i understand. Well i did not know about that. Thank you very much,. I hope i did not sound harsh. I assure that i am not like that. Thanks again for letting know. However, i still want to tell you again what i told you above. Many articles use music samples with no rationale and the problem often lies in the number of music samples they used. I think you should pay more attention to that. I am not trying to dictate to you what you should do. Just telling you what the main problem is on Wikipedia when it comes articles related to music. Happy editing. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 13:40, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- Sure. Happy editing. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 13:55, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
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Please try to stay for a day or two. Anirudh Emani (talk) 16:41, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Break
Uhg. Just when I thought another editor was stepping into the quagmire that is NFCC enforcement, I find your userpage. Sigh. :( --Hammersoft (talk) 18:54, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
- I am very interested in this issue, but it requires a lot of time, which I do not have right now. Just take a look at the above thread or at Talk:2004-2010 Telangana protests#Non-free file problem. I will see what I can do once I can spare some time. And the conversations with you are very encouraging, you are a very nice person to talk to and it gives me a feeling of not being totally alone going through this mess. When I can spare some time (such as right now) I will do all I can. However it really feels like the list is growing faster than it can be cut down, so I will remind myself of a quote from a film: "Never give up, never surrender." And I will not give up on this issue, I promise. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 19:11, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not going to hold you to that promise. You can lose yourself in this. It is a never ending task. As to taking a break, your best bet is to sell your soul. At least then you don't have any responsibility to it :) I appreciate your compliments. Most people here think I'm an ass. That's ok with me. I don't have any friends here, and don't aspire to have any. I strive to do the right thing, regardless of who it annoys. That, to me, ISN'T selling my soul. --Hammersoft (talk) 19:17, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
WNPT Jack logo
Hi Toshio, can you please explain to me why you removed the the WNPT Jack logo on the Jack Articles? I thought it was a genuine trademark as the same logo is used by many other Jack radio stations. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Steveojavano (talk • contribs) 00:17, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
- See WP:NFCC Policy 10c. File:WNPT-FM Jack logo.png is non-free and per NFCC Policy 10c needs a separate non-free use rationale for each use of the file. The file was used on 106 Jack FM (South Coast), 106 Jack FM (Bristol) and 106 Jack FM (Hertfordshire) but did not have rationales for its use there. Per WP:NFCC#Enforcement the file must be removed from an article where it is used without a rationale. If you want to include the file in those articles, you must provide a separate rationale for each article where you want to use the file. If you want to use a non-free file on X articles, then the file page must contain X rationales. Wikipedia:Non-free use rationale guideline explains how to write the rationales. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 08:58, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
Added thread to VPRPP
Hi Toshio. Your question at the help desk was archived with no answer. So I decided to be bold and added the thread from VPR to VPRPP. You can find it at Wikipedia:Village pump (proposals)/Persistent proposals#Automatically archive all reference links when an article gets FA nominated. I'll see if I can stir up some interst in it in a few days. Hope you are doing well on your wikibreak. Best regards. - Hydroxonium (T•C•V) 05:22, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for copying the thread Hydroxonium. I will think about how we can divert some community attention to this. And will probably stick around, just perhaps not in very long at each 'Session'. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 08:40, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
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November 2011
I'm trying my best to block a certain user who made Dancing with the Stars (U.S. season 12) heavily biased, missing most information, and a lack of reputable sources. I'm trying my best to become an administrator, so can you please notify me when you have a stack of ways to become an administrator? I don't even understand. My uploads keep getting deleted. Sottolaqua removed the Judges' Scoring Summary table, Call-out order, and many other things. Who will know who received the encore of the week? I thought I was doing a good job. Things are not simple around the Dancing with the Stars articles. Something can really help when someone watching Dancing with the Stars is looking for a couple who received the encore of the week. I want Sottolaqua gone and to never come back. So, please. I hope you'll look forward to it. --Plankton5165 (talk) 20:59, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
Δ
? I saw your post on his talk page, and am quite confused. What harm have you brought him? Why do you feel the need of a self imposed interaction ban? --Hammersoft (talk) 21:41, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- I think this post was very poor and I should not have made it. Furthermore I don't see how I can interact with Δ when I cannot reasonably talk with him about the tools he maintains without putting him under the thread of being sanctioned for "enforcing NFCC, broadly construed". Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 21:54, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- You were calling a spade a spade. A large swath of editors are doing a bang up job of WP:ABF with regards to Δ's edits. The pattern is; (1) Δ makes an edit followed by (2) People try to find a problem with it, usually followed by (3) report to WP:AN/I, block, complain on his talk page, or some combination/variation thereof. This is why my stance has become to either grant Δ WP:AGF, or just ban him from the project. This in between crap is killing any chance he has of redeeming himself in the eyes of the project. Everything he does is treated by some as utter crap that must be targeted to find something wrong with it. --Hammersoft (talk) 22:11, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- Toshio Yamaguchi, dont worry about what others are going to be doing, IAR exists for a reason. If you have any issues with my tools let me know. ΔT The only constant 23:56, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks Δ. Both you and Hammersoft are so nice editors to interact with. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 00:47, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Your Arbitration evidence is too long
Hello, Toshio Yamaguchi. Thank you for your recent submission of evidence for the Betacommand 3 Arbitration case. As you may be aware, the Arbitration Committee asks that users submitting evidence in cases adhere to limits regarding the length of their submissions. These limits, of User:HersfoldArbClerkBot/Length header/Words words and User:HersfoldArbClerkBot/Length header/Diffs diffs maximum, are in place to ensure that the Arbitration Committee receives only the most important information relevant to the case, and is able to determine an appropriate course of action in a reasonable amount of time. The evidence you have submitted currently exceeds at least one of these limits, and is presently at 581 words and 7 diffs. Please try to reduce the length of your submission to fit within these limits; this guide may be able to provide some help in doing so. If the length of your evidence is not reduced soon, it may be refactored or removed by a human clerk within a few days. Thank you! If you have any questions or concerns regarding the case, please contact the drafting Arbitrator or case clerk (listed on the case pages); if you have any questions or concerns about this bot, please contact the operator. On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, HersfoldArbClerkBOT(talk) 12:00, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
- And here we go. ArbCom's capitulation of their role. Complex cases can not be brought because it is impossible to fit evidence into 500 words. --Hammersoft (talk) 14:24, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
- No, you can simply make it like Fram. When your evidence is too long, you simply say: "Oh it is to long. I move it to the talk page." Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 14:28, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
- ..where it won't be read. --Hammersoft (talk) 14:32, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
- No, you can simply make it like Fram. When your evidence is too long, you simply say: "Oh it is to long. I move it to the talk page." Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 14:28, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
You know, it's interesting. The bot is acting directly in contravention of Wikipedia:Arbitration/Guide_to_arbitration#Your_statement. "A short and factual statement of 500 words or fewer should be written" followed by "You are not trying to prove your case at this time: if your case is accepted for Arbitration, an evidence page will be created that you can use to provide more detail." --Hammersoft (talk) 14:38, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
RFARB
I moved my comment because of the instructions at the top of the page: "If you think another editor's evidence is a misrepresentation of the facts, cite the evidence and explain how it is incorrect within your own section." (emphasis in original). Please move your reply accordingly to your section. Fram (talk) 12:30, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
Unclear reference to discussion on my talk page
What are you suggesting with this? You are referring to my talk page, but I don't really see who is supposedly "pushed into the corner" and who does "invent your own rules" apply to. Fram (talk) 09:42, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
- I refer to your moving around of text here while I tried to respond to said text. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 09:48, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
- That's what I thought, but I wanted confirmation first. I wasn't really pushed into a corner (or else it was quite a cosy one), and I didn't invent any rules, I specifically included the text from the top of the Arb Case page (which I didn't write or edit). I mistakenly posted at first in your section, which is specifically disallowed by the instructions. Correcting my error is not inventing new rules. Please remain civil and correct when discussing things (or when discussing people behind their back). Fram (talk) 10:04, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
- Agreed and accepted. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 10:08, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
Theorems and conjectures about prime numbers
I saw that you created and are populating Category:Theorems and conjectures about prime numbers. This seems mostly redundant with the existing Category:Conjectures about prime numbers, don't you think?
CRGreathouse (t | c) 13:50, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
- We could make Category:Conjectures about prime numbers a subcategory of Category:Theorems and conjectures about prime numbers. I think adding articles about theorems to Category:Conjectures about prime numbers is confusing. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 13:55, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
- My categorization seems to create a partial redundancy. I will think about fixing that. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 14:19, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
- I don't know where I have my head right now. My above two replies are nonsense. What I intended to do was populating the new category with all theorems and conjectures about prime numbers. Category:Conjectures about prime numbers excludes proven theorems. I don't know whether there are enough entries so that two separate categories are useful. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 14:29, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
- Maybe you can ask at WT:WikiProject Mathematics? CRGreathouse (t | c) 16:01, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
- Yes I will do that. Thanks. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 16:04, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
- I created Category:Theorems about prime numbers and moved the theorems there (along with many others that were not in your new category). I then put it and the Conjectures category under Category:Prime numbers; I don't think we need a category with just two members. Thanks for pointing this out... CRGreathouse (t | c) 22:14, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
I've seen that you had removed a music sample because it had violated WP:NFCC but then undid your edit. Is there something wrong? Best, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 14:00, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
- That edit of mine was a mistake, which is the reason, why I undid it. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 14:05, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
- Oh ok, so the samples meets the criteria? Best, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 14:07, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
- It meets 10c, which is the only criterion I am enforcing right now. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 14:09, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for letting me know :) Best, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 14:10, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
- It meets 10c, which is the only criterion I am enforcing right now. Toshio Yamaguchi (talk) 14:09, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
- Oh ok, so the samples meets the criteria? Best, Jonayo! Selena 4 ever 14:07, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
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