# User talk:Twooars/Archive 2

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==edits to Africa==

I wasn't vandalizing the page, someone had made it say "Africa is the most boringist" and I didn't know what originally went there so i put "africa is one of the most underdeveloped" I wouldn't consider that vandalism ;D so can you just remove that warning from my talk page? User talk:Acorn98

Sorry, it seems you meant well. Saying Africa is the most underdeveloped without proper references may be considered by some as a POV statement. For future reference, if you want to change (Revert) vandalism to an earlier good version click on the history tab, select the good version, click on Edit this page and then save the old version. If this is too confusing, refer to Help:reverting. Cheers. :) - TwoOars (T | C) 20:42, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

## Thank You

I am a brand new Wikipedia "editor" (if I can even call myself that because of my inexperience with this medium), and a user posted a comment on my user talk page that read "stop messing with wikipedia if you dont you will be baned [sic] from it idiot". You removed it from my page, giving the reason "removed trolling". I am sure that you have a monitoring program to filter potentially harmful, false, or malicious edits out, and you make a great number of similar edits on other people's pages, but I just wanted to say thank you for helping me out. Keep up the good work.

Glenn.spitler 20:03, 11 May 2007 (UTC)

I appreciate the heads-up about the "Newbies" [1] monitoring page. It can be posited that the amount of time a user has been an "active" member of Wikipedia, i.e. made any edits, may be indicative of several things, inter alia, an inverse correlation to the probability that said user will engage in malicious edits. While I do not have facts proving that this relationship exists, one can reasonably infer how it could potentially be significant. Therefore, I can see the utility in monitoring this "new" class of user. You can guarantee that I'll be watching that page for saliently absurd or incorrect edits from now on. :)
I believe strongly in the bifurcated, and often mutually inclusive, benefits of (1) learning from the experience of others, and conversely, (2) teaching relatively unseasoned peers about one's experiences to further their development. Thanks for doing (2) for me.
"By learning you will teach, by teaching you will learn." - Anonymous Latin Proverb
P.S. -- If I seem like I am using language of an overly florid and circumlocutory nature, the reason is because I've been working hard all week at my law firm in addition to preparing for my LSAT, so the combination of the two is starting to take its toll on me!
Glenn.spitler 04:00, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for your edit from Last names and family names. It makes sence. I should have thought of that.

Brownwiki 21:11, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

## AfD

You're probably right, I'm new here so I'm not exactly sure what I'm doing! Monkeymox 18:26, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

## Could you help?

Sory to bother you, but as you seem to fight vandalism regularly, I was hoping you would be able to help me; after reverting an atticle earlier, the article was once again reverted by the origional offending IP address. I read the article on reporting vandalism, but I couldn't quite make sense of it and I was unsure if it applied to IP addresses. Thanks! Monkeymox 20:01, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

## Carioca RFA

The final outcome was (31/4/1), so I am now an administrator. If you have any comments or concerns on my actions as an administrator, please let me know. Thank you! --Carioca 20:25, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks very much for deleting that sentence. I obviously didn't even notice it. I appreciate it! Cheers. 15:22, 28 May 2007 (UTC)

## RFA

Thanks so much for supporting me in the RFA. I am grateful for your response, and it really means a lot to be appreciated. Thanks again! 04:19, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

## Email

I enabled it. Thanks! 05:25, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

I was standing up for myself. The user had no policy supporting his reasons for opposing me, and I even openly claimed that "this is my opinion". 05:34, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Haha, yes, but that's my only touchy response, as I did nothing to presume that. It seems that he just assumes that because I've had an account for almost 3 months I'm too new, and am merely "too keen to get the mop". It upsets me, as I am not a stereotype. 05:43, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
What did I do? I felt that I was very polite in response to the user's accusations. I simply asked for a response, as to why he claimed that. If it's valid, it's valid, it's valid, and I obviously would not argue it. I was simply wondering what it was, so I could be aware in the future as to what I did? 05:58, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
I know that I would face "real accusations as an admin", and I would always ask why an accusations were made then, just like now. It's not out of line to ask why a user has made an accusation against you. 06:21, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
Well, I'm very sorry to have lost your "!vote" (no worries, as I'm well aware that it's not a real vote, but I'll use the word for lack of a better term), as it's such a close thing. I completely see what you say now, and I will try to correct this. Thanks for letting me know of about it, and I will definitely make sure not to do this again. I will actually go back and reword the statement now. Cheers. 12:39, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

## A notice

I got a question for you at your editor reveiw.Arnon Chaffin Review me? Talk 20:11, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

## RfA Q5

I've replied, hopefully in a comprehensible manner :) If you'd like to know more, please don't hesitate to ask. Best, Fvasconcellos (t·c) 19:21, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Same as before. Dude, this is getting heavy :) Fvasconcellos (t·c) 20:11, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

## Thank you very much for welcoming me to WikiPedia

Dear Twooars:

Thank you very much for welcoming me to WikiPedia. I just wanted you to know that I've been posting contributions to Puerto Rican singers, composers, musicians, actors, actresses, comedians, with my great knowledge about them, but the user XLR8TION, has been reporting me as if I were vandalizing Wikipedia, because he feels my contributions are non-notable. I can assure you that they are. I'm a Puerto Rican and live in Puerto Rico and I know what I'm posting and they're for real. Below, I'm posting the letter I received in my talk page from XLR8TION in a very bad manner. I am a serious person and all my contributions can be verified, but they're deleted in seconds by XLR8TION. I hope I can get my next contributions through, without being deleted by someone who doesn't know the real Puerto Rican personalities. Thank you very much for your time, Twooars.

Dear XLR8TION:

I've never vandalized this page ever. My information is totally accurate. I don't know who told you that Mapita Cortes is Mapy Cortes niece. Mapita Cortes is the daughter of Mapy Cortes and Fernando Cortes a great P.R. film director, who's not even in the list, from which she takes his last name, and Mapita was married to Lucho Gatica, a singer from Chile and had a son that actually is a famous actor in Mexico, called Luis Gatica. Both Mapy Cortes and Mapita Cortes passed away. I wouldn't ever vandalize Wikipedia, and I've been posting real people that have contributed to Puerto Rico and are very far away from being non-notables. I've noticed that I'm the one that has been vandalized, when my posts have been deleted. I'm a Puerto Rican and proud to be one, and every contribution I've posted, has been deleted, maybe by you. If you don't know Awilda Carbia, Dagmar, Luis Raul, Marta Romero, Sonia Noemi, Alba Nydia Diaz, Andres Jimenez, el jibaro, Amaury Veray, Edmundo Disdier, Hector Urdaneta, Puchi Balseiro, etc. etc., you're not Puerto Rican. I've contributed with these significant Puerto Ricans, over and over, and I've been deleted, and that's vandalizing my intelligence and knowledge. I hope I can reach you sometime so you can learn more about Puerto Rican actors, actresses, singers, musicians, composers, etc. As I've noticed, you don't know most of the great Puerto Ricans that have been notorious in this field. I have the culture, the knowledge and I'm sure of what I say. I've never vandalized Wikipedia. It's an absurd comment. I hope you can reconsider what you said. Read more and learn more from us, the real Puerto Ricans. Furthermore, I've seen people in the list that I've never known before and I haven't even tried to delete them. All my contributions can be verified, and they're for real.

Entre-Nos.--Entre-Nos 01:18, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

## Circumcision

Thank you for your advice about editing Twooars. I have a question that you may be able to help me with. I recently added quotes from the major medical associations to the article on Circumcision. They were all carefully cited back to the original source. Jakew immediately removed them. Is there any way I can charge him with vandalism? He removes the statements of the major medical associations and replaces them with his uncited personal opinions.

User:Edwardsville 18:30, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi, you can not call User:Jakew's edits vandalism. And content disputes like this happen all the time on wikipedia. Please do not take it personally. You can go to the article talk page or Jakew's talk page and discuss why he/she does not want your edits to be added and try to reach a solution. Keep your Cool and be Civil. Also remember the 3 revert rule. Do ask me anything else. Cheers.
PS: Please post your messages on the Talk or Discussion pages, not to User pages as you did on mine. Thanks. :) - TwoOars 18:53, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

## Re: Hi

I understand about your flip-flops. It's better to be sure than to make the wrong decision. I will drop you that note, and hope to gain full trust from the community someday. Cheers! 04:44, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

## RfA Thanks

 Thanks... Thank you for showing your support in my recent RfA. Unfortunately, consensus was not really going my way, so I decided to withdraw my self-nomination last night. The final vote tally was (15/7/10). Your support does mean a lot to me, and I will certainly let you know when I go for my next RfA, most likely in a few month's time. Thank you again, and happy editing! Hersfold (talk/work) 17:57, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

## My RfA

Dear Twooars, thank you for you efforts to build consensus on my RfA. As you know, it was unsuccessful. I am not the type of editor to be disheartened by such a result, and have gained much experience.

I will run again, however I am concerned that I may see your name in the same place, for the same reasons. I would greatly appreciate knowing what I could do to earn your support next time.

If you have anything to contribute by way of improvements or comments, please don’t hesitate to tell me. Kind regards, Dfrg.msc 00:30, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

## My RfA :)

 Thank you, TwoOars, for commenting on my RfA, which closed successfully with a tally of 76/0/1! I hope I will meet your expectations, and be sure I will continue trying to be a good editor as well as a good administrator :) If I may be of any assistance to you in the future (or if you see me commit some grievous error :), please drop me a line on my Talk page. Again, thank you, and happy editing! Fvasconcellos (t·c) 17:24, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks again for the questions—apparently my answers were satisfactory :) If you need anything or happen to notice me doing anything untoward, please don't hesitate to let me know. Best, Fvasconcellos (t·c) 17:24, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

## (faulty reversion by martinbot)

Your recent edit to John Gay (diff) was reverted by an automated bot that attempts to recognize and repair vandalism to Wikipedia articles. If the bot reverted a legitimate edit, please accept my humble creator's apologies – if you bring it to the attention of the bot's owner, we may be able to improve its behavior. Click here for frequently asked questions about the bot and this warning. // MartinBot 20:25, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Restored article to proper version. - TwoOars 20:28, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

Hi; I have no problem with your sending to my talk page about comments made in RfA; but I have answered you point, which I am sorry to say I do not wholly agree with, in the RfA page.--Anthony.bradbury"talk" 20:14, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

## The Novels WikiProject Newsletter - Issue XIII - June 2007

Issue XIII - June 2007
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Hiya Twooars. thanks for the move. I'm just going to change a few words as now it says "above" and the comments are "below"! That okay? Cheers! 20:44, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

Don't worry - I've just done it - if there's an issue shout at me !! 20:48, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
Thanks for the move and thanks for your comments. As I stated that incident is not something I'm proud of, but I felt it better to be open as it adds value to this RfA , IMHO. Cheers again. 20:56, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

## A freebie !

Further to our recent discussion, here's a gift. :) WP:HUMOUR applies! Best Wishes 13:11, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for the screwdriver, :). I promise I will not stick it in my nose. - TwoOars 13:20, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
WP:BEANS. I've off to hosital now to remove a philips from my nasal passage. And I blame you entirely. :) See you round the 'pedia. Thanks again. 13:27, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Thanks Dr Two Oars! The brain damage doesn't matter - It wasn't much of a brain to start with.! 13:40, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

Cheers mate - you keep watching my back ! I've clarified at WT:RFA 13:54, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

## Thanks

Hi Twooars, Thank you for your comments at my RfA. Let me know if I can help you and feel free to let me know if i mess up anywhere. Keep rowing. Shyamal 03:03, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

## Re:Editor review

No problem. That was just a simple one, I'd elaborate more if I had the time. Cheers!! -Zacharycrimsonwolf 12:47, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

## my RFA

Thank you for supporting my RFA. I hope I will live up to your expectation. Let me know if you need any help, or I make any mistake. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 23:54, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

## English,Irish,Welsh and Scottish Empire

English Empire goes to British Empire and the British isles are not only England as the Scottish, Irish and Welsh played vital roles in the empire. Johnnai 19:13, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Twooars, British Isles refers to Britain and Ireland. England, Scotland and Wales exist on Britain and Ireland is it's own island. British Empire refers the British isles, not 1 of the 4 countries. The reason I created those articles was because English empire has the same validity of Irish, Scottish and Welsh empire and it would neglect the other 3 countries and ignorantly proclaim it was an "English Empire" alone.
• If this is the case Twooars then "English empire" should be removed as it is never used.
• Right I keep a stupid error message everytime I try to reply to your comments on discussion so I am adding them here and you can add them in over there
• Um, I thought English Empire was a fairly common term...? - TwoOars 20:17, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
No it is not at all, this is NEVER used.Johnnai 20:25, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Discussion continued here- TwoOars 20:40, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

## RfA

Thank you for your congratulations and your support at RfA, I noticed that you were one of the more active contributors to the page and you did a good job at countering some of the opposers. You and the others were responsible for turning around a very bad situation, with a remarkable result! Thanks a lot, DrKiernan 11:06, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

## Dental dam

This is by far not a censorship issue. Dental dams are purchased by dentists for use in the dental office. One can also use a ziploc bag as a condom, but its not on that page. please explain.

## Welcome to VandalProof!

Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, Twooars! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. Daniel 07:42, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

## ?

It was my intention!

I read the page you mentioned before I posted my question.
What I mean is that this page is not clear enough, as opposed to a professional User Guide item. Please resume the {helpme} box; maybe someone else can give a more comprehensive help.
BTW: The {message} box on my UserPage looks awful now. Where can I find an explanation how to configure it?

## My RFA

Thanks for your recent support on my RFA. Look for me to be back in a few months to have another go at it! Hiberniantears 14:51, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

## My RfA

Thank you for your support in my recent RfA. However, it was unsuccessful. I am in no way disheartened, and I will hopefully succeed in a month or two. If you have any further suggestions or comments, feel free to drop me a line on my talk page, and I will be happy to respond. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 02:31, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

## The Novels WikiProject Newsletter: Issue XIV - July 2007

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## Jamie

Thanx, didnt know what I was doing. Garfible 16:26, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Hi, Twooars. I've just finished my response on your Editor Review. Sorry for the long wait, you've been very patient. If your thinking of going further, you should check out:

Which are both excellent resources. Keep up the good work, Dfrg.msc 02:59, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

1The box is taken directly off the The Virtual classroom page.

## Thanks

Thanks, but the thing is, a guy who opposed the FA said to give more info on how he fell :/ Xihix 21:28, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

## Help

Thanks for the offer of help sorted out what i was trying to do if stuck again is it ok to ask you a question? BigDunc 14:52, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

Thanks so much for your help! I appreciate your prompt response.  :)
NeraneiT/C20:36, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

## Userboxes

Cheers, NeraneiT/C18:02, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

## Harassment

Recently, the poster Jakew posted a fake warning on my page, as if he were an administrator. I understand that this constitutes "harassment" under Wikipedia policies. What can I do? He has continually removed postings by myself and other people if he does not like them, regardless of how well cited they are, and now he does this. Is there anything I can do?

The comment he put on my page is under: Jakew 18:25, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

Edwardsville 17:31, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

## The Novels WikiProject Newsletter : Issue XV - August 2007

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## WOW!

Great comment at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Stwalkerster! I wholeheartedly agree with you there. I think, WP:RfA is fundamentally broken, for this reason, but, I don't have any better ideas on how to do it, or, how to fix it. Thank you, for your comment. --SXT4${\displaystyle \color {Red}\oplus }$ 07:26, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

Meh. You make a very good point... Oh well, good to meet a like-minded person! --SXT4${\displaystyle \color {Red}\oplus }$ 06:24, 12 August 2007 (UTC)

## Welcome to MCB

Hi there, welcome to the Wikiproject. If you have any questions or want help with anything, please drop me a note on my talk page. All the best, Tim Vickers 20:50, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

There's no formal assessment section, just plunge in and be bold! Tim Vickers 21:02, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

## Thanks!

Thanks for answering my question so quick!

ACBest 18:22, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

## Article for deletion

Hi Twooars how do you put up an article for deletion and what are requirements thanks.BigDunc 14:17, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

thanks for the speedy reply will have a read of links you gave me. BigDunc 14:38, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

## Changing file name

Hi just a quick note could you tell me what can be done to change a file name on this [[4]] as it is incorrectly named and is being used in edit wars. This is the Ulster Banner and not the flag of Northern Ireland as it is labeled thanks. BigDunc 16:42, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

## Hello again

As requested here, I'm dropping you a note about my second RFA. Thanks for the help, and happy editing as always. Hersfold (t/a/c) 02:06, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

## Thanks

Thanks for the help with catagories, I'll def. look into those two projects, but not tomorrow as it's my birthday then. Victory Is Mine 22:17, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

## IRC cloak request

I am TwoOars on freenode and I would like the cloak wikipedia/TwoOars. Thanks. --- TwoOars 19:44, 3 September 2007 (UTC)