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Welcome![edit]

Hello, Wchales7320, and welcome to Wikipedia! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Unfortunately, one or more of your recent edits to the page Mount Carmel Center did not conform to Wikipedia's verifiability policy, and may have been removed. Wikipedia articles should refer only to facts and interpretations verified in reliable, reputable print or online sources or in other reliable media. Always provide a reliable source for quotations and for any material that is likely to be challenged, or it may be removed. Wikipedia also has a related policy against including original research in articles.

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Wanted to say hello and offer a little help[edit]

Wchales7320, I wanted to let you know to be careful to not WP:Editwar, and although I know unintentionally, you've technically violated WP:3RR because it's obvious you first submitted the info on Mount Carmel Center without an account.

Read thru the info in the welcome message above, but Wikipedia does not allow WP:OR. So everything you're trying to submit may 100% be true, but it must have reliable sources cited otherwise it will be taken down. Please understand this has nothing to do with you or the topic or what you're posting.

The WP:Teahouse is a place you can go and ask questions where there are a lot of smart people that will offer help.

Good luck and welcome. ToeFungii (talk) 03:46, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

May 2020[edit]

Information icon Welcome to Wikipedia. We appreciate your contributions, but in one of your recent edits to Mount Carmel Center, it appears that you have added original research, which is against Wikipedia's policies. Original research refers to material—such as facts, allegations, ideas, and personal experiences—for which no reliable, published sources exist; it also encompasses combining published sources in a way to imply something that none of them explicitly say. Please be prepared to cite a reliable source for all of your contributions. You can have a look at the tutorial on citing sources. Thank you. Materialscientist (talk) 04:06, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Information icon Please do not add commentary, your own point of view, or your own personal analysis to Wikipedia articles, as you did to Mount Carmel Center. Doing so violates Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy and breaches the formal tone expected in an encyclopedia. Thank you. dmartin969 04:19, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It wasn’t a point of view or original research, it’s the truth. Looking at something in relation to the Constitution is not biased AT ALL. Wchales7320 (talk) 04:37, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]


You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war; that means that you are repeatedly changing content back to how you think it should be, when you have seen that other editors disagree. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus, rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement.

Points to note:

  1. Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made;
  2. Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes and work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing. ToeFungii (talk) 04:38, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Warning icon Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to violate Wikipedia's no original research policy by adding your personal analysis or synthesis into articles, as you did at Mount Carmel Center, you may be blocked from editing. Iwilsonp (talk) 04:40, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

It’s not original research, it’s not an opinion, it’s just a fact. You may not see it that way, but those of us who adhere the United States Constitution as the supreme law of the land do. The only research involved was how to add references Wchales7320 (talk) 04:42, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

  • Can you provide a verifiable reliable source that states this? Given the number of editors who disagree with you, it's not obvious to all of us. If so, please put it on the talk page of the article and let's discuss. Iwilsonp (talk) 04:47, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

The First Amendment to the United States Constitution clearly states that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.”

The Second Amendment clearly states that “A welp regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bare arms, shall not be infringed.”

The second amendment doesn’t just apply to muskets, like the freedom of the press doesn’t just apply to type writers or the printing press.

Here is what Wikipedia has to say about unconstitutional Wchales7320 (talk) 04:55, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion[edit]

Information icon Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The thread is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring#User:Wchales7320 reported by User:ToeFungii (Result: ). Thank you. ToeFungii (talk) 04:50, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

Oh piss off you liberal Nazi sack of shit. You just don’t like the fact that I actually know the Constitution and understand what happened at Mount Harmel in 1993. Wchales7320 (talk) 08:30, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

May 2020[edit]

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You have been blocked from editing for a period of 36 hours for edit warring, as you did at Mount Carmel Center. Once the block has expired, you are welcome to make useful contributions.
During a dispute, you should first try to discuss controversial changes and seek consensus. If that proves unsuccessful, you are encouraged to seek dispute resolution, and in some cases it may be appropriate to request page protection.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  EvergreenFir (talk) 05:44, 1 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]
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You have been blocked indefinitely from editing because it appears that you are not here to build an encyclopedia.
If you think there are good reasons for being unblocked, please read the guide to appealing blocks, then add the following text below the block notice on your talk page: {{unblock|reason=Your reason here ~~~~}}.  Drmies (talk) 21:38, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]

User:EvergreenFir, this seemed to be a case of NOTHERE, and that's confirmed also by CU results which show the user had been pulling this kind of stuff before (you know I can't say more than this). If you're wondering why I'm here, pinging you just as we're talking elsewhere, a CU check on a right-wing LTA who was smearing a fellow admin brought me here. :) Drmies (talk) 21:40, 27 May 2020 (UTC)[reply]