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The list was promoted by PresN via FACBot (talk) 23:32, 30 September 2017 (UTC) [1].[reply]

Quantico (season 1)[edit]

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Nominator(s): Krish | Talk 12:39, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I am nominating this for featured list because I think it meets the FL criteria. Looking forward to lots of feedback on this.Krish | Talk 12:39, 16 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Comments from Aoba47
  • Please add ALT text for the infobox image.
  • In the "Run" episode description, please address the "clarification needed" tag.
  • Please add ALT text to the image in the "Production" section.
  • I do not believe the links in the "Ratings" table are necessary as it just links right back to a different part of this list.
  • I removed the links but someone reverted me saying it is the part of the template and hence should not be removed.Krish | Talk 13:15, 24 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • I do not believe that is true as if it was truly "part of the template", then it would automatically be linked and could not be un-linked so easily. Either way, I will leave this up to future reviewers. Aoba47 (talk) 15:07, 25 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think the following sentence (She is taken into custody charged with treason) should read as (She is taken into custody and charged with treason).
  • This sentence reads awkwardly (Featuring two timelines, various flashbacks show Parrish and fellow agents, each having their secret reasons for joining the FBI, training at the FBI Academy.). In this phrasing, the dependent phrase (i.e. "Featuring two timelines" is supposed to modify the subject of the rest of the sentence (i.e. "various flashbacks). Since the various flashbacks are not featuring two timelines, this should be revised.
  • Please revise the following part: "Shelby Wyatt, and (Johanna Braddy),".
  • I am confused by this part (who all seem connected somehow to the bombings), specifically the word "bombings". Were there multiple bombings/attacks? You have only mentioned the one on Grand Central Terminal at this point.
  • I would change "she works to determine who the mastermind is behind the bombings" to "she works to uncover the mastermind behind the bombings" for conciseness.
  • I would change the link on "Senator" to United States Senate to be more specific.
  • You have ABC Studios linked twice in the list.
  • I have two issues with this phrase "Good ratings and strong viewership numnbers": 1) numbers is misspelled and 2) what is the difference between "ratings" and "viewership numbers"?
  • You have Alex Parrish linked multiple times in the list when it should only be linked on the first instance.
  • The characters who were already introduced in the "Overview" section should not be re-linked in the "Production" section or any subsequent section.
  • You have "Grand Central Terminal" linked twice.
  • In the phrase "The twins, Caleb, Shelby, Natalie and Simon", you need a comma after "Natalie" as you are primarily using the Oxford comma in this list in other spots.
  • I have a concern with the amount of quotes used in the "Critical reception" subsection as there are a lot of them. I would encourage you to paraphrase a little more to help build a flow for this paragraph rather than just having a listing of different critics' quotes.
  • You use "season 1" in the "Ratings" subsection; please change those to "season one" to be consistent with the rest of the list.
  • I would move the "Accolades" subsection before the "Ratings" one; also since the "Accolades" subsection is so short, I am not certain if it needs to be separated from the "Critical reception" subsection.
  • I have moved rating section below. Plus, the accolades and critical reception sections are separated in other FLs too.Krish | Talk 13:15, 24 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Thank you for moving it up, and I understand your point. I will leave this up to your discretion. Aoba47 (talk) 15:07, 25 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Great work with this. Once my comments are addressed, I will support this for promotion. Aoba47 (talk) 16:26, 23 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • I support this for promotion. Aoba47 (talk) 15:07, 25 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Kailash
  • Make sure the recurring and guest characters are sourced.
  • ABC ordered the pilot on January 23, 2015, for the 2015–16 television season - "pilot" links to Pilot (television episode), but I think you mean to link to television pilot. And do link "2015–16 television season" to 2015–16 United States network television schedule.
  • Yasmine Al Massri plays dual roles as Nimah and Raina Amin, right? Mention that under "Production" in the sentence which goes, "...while Johanna Braddy and Yasmine Al Massri rounded out the cast in the final co-starring roles as trainees Shelby Wyatt and Nimah and Raina Amin". The word "respectively" could be added to avoid confusion.
  • Make sure the series' name is italicised in the reviews.
  • Robert Bianco from USA Today gave it a three out of four, praising the diversity Chopra's and Ellis' performances - is there supposed to be a comma between "diversity" and "Chopra's"? Also, does "diversity" refer to the cast?
  • On the other hand, TheWrap's Tim Grierson, who although felt that the show "provides sexy fun", was less impressed writing that the show often succumbed to "lame-brained plotting" and a unconvincing portrayal of the setting. He concluded saying that the fluffy material did not fit well with the darker tones "meant to be struck by the introduction of a cataclysmic terrorist attack." - I think you can begin with something more formal, like: "in contrast". You could add a comma after "less impressed" to split the sentence.

That's all from me. Once my comments have been addressed, I will support this. Source reviewing and proofreading may be done by any interested admin. An unrelated question: why is this article being tried for FL and not GA? I am reminded of an incident at List of Agent Carter characters' FLC. --Kailash29792 (talk) 16:16, 27 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • @Kailash29792: This is why. It depends on the article/list. This list does not contains heavy texts such as that of the characters' list you have linked above. I hope it is clear now.Krish | Talk 18:09, 27 August 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Support: All my comments have been addressed. Kailash29792 (talk) 02:13, 3 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comments from Brojam
  • Actors' names should be removed from the overview section per WP:TVPLOT
  • No need to repeat the word "cast" for subheading (regular, recurring, guest) in the Cast section.
  • Change "Regular" to "Main"
  • All those actors should be sourced per WP:TVCAST. All the main actors and many other recurring actors have sources in the production section so just reference them and for the others try to find casting announcements, episode reviews or other RS, rather than something like Hollywood.com. I don't think it should be too hard to find.
  • The entire Crew section is simply a list of crew members and violates WP:TVCREW. There's no need to list all the directors and writers when they are listed in the episode section further down. The majority of the other members such as production companies and producers belong in the Development section.
  • The Production section should be divided into subheadings (Development, Casting, and Filming) to make it more clear and easier to navigate per WP:TVPRODUCTION.
  • Some small changes to the first paragraph: JoshuaSafran pitched the series to ABC, describing the show as "Grey's Anatomy meets Homeland".[3] On September 17, 2014, ABC announced the network had bought the original concept for the drama series from ABC Studios, and creator Joshua Safran and producer Mark Gordon.[3] ABC ordered the pilot on January 23, 2015, for the 2015–16 television season.[4] In May 2015, the show was picked up after the pilot ordered to series, with an initial order of 13 episodes for the 2015 network-television season... In NovemberThe next month, the season was extended to 22 episodes.[7]
  • Second paragraph: "Following the pilot pick up," to "With the series order in May,"
  • Sentence "The show was designed to have a flashback..." should be put in the Development subsection since doesn't belong with Casting.
  • Replace Montreal, Quebec with Montreal, Quebec, no need for "(Canada)" after Quebec and change Sherbrooke to Sherbrooke, Quebec.
  • The source for the explanation of the title of S1E21 does not mention the original title "Closure". Either find a source that does or remove the note since it's kinda trivial without an explanation for the change.
  • In reviews: TheWrap should be italic
  • Ratings section belong as subsection of Reception
  • Would be good to add that it ranked as the third new series of the season among adults 18–49.
  • Ref #71's is not dead and the archive doesn't work.
  • DVD, Blu-ray and Region 1 should all be linked
  • Missing publisher TVShowsOnDVD.com to ref #94
  • For your refs, link the publisher/work/website for each reference to be consistent. Also make sure that you are consistent with using each parameter; you are using both publisher and work for Deadline.com, same thing for TVLine, and TheWrap.

That's all for now. - Brojam (talk) 02:27, 15 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • It's always best to use the casting announcements for the cast. I went ahead and used those for the ones that were in the production section, for the rest I'm good with the TVGuide ref. I also made some other small changes [2]. Apart from that, everything looks good so I can support this promotion. Great job! - Brojam (talk) 01:07, 17 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Resolved comments from Giants2008 (Talk) 20:23, 21 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Comments –
  • "with series' creator Joshua Safron". Remove the apostrophe from "series'".
  • Development: Minor, but the ABC Studios link could be moved to the mention in the first paragraph of the subsection.
  • Casting: Looks like the name has a typo in "In July 2015, Josh Hopkins joined the cast in the role of Laim O'Connor."
  • Episode 17 summary: Typo in "use the act that they are twins to their advantage...".
  • Accolades: There appears to be an excess space in "Choice TV : Breakout Star" after TV.
  • Ratings: Add "the" after "among" in "It was the third best new series of the season among adults 18–49 demographic."?
  • Remember your last FLC, when you added general references so that episode information would be verifiable? It would be great if you could do the same here, as the same problem exists in this list. Giants2008 (Talk) 20:41, 19 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Image review

Images are fine. Pavanjandhyala (talk) 05:38, 27 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Source review passed, general ref for credits is in place, promoting. --PresN 02:08, 30 September 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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