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Sitakunda Upazila[edit]

This article has come a long way in respect to Bangladesh location articles, and may well represent, I hope, a guiding article for more than 400 other articles in the category of Bangladesh upazilas. These articles do need a guiding way, which is currently being discussed here. That is exactly why it needs careful reviewing and development. Please, comment on everything from writing style to arrangement, and from sources and citations to neutrality and notability of the stuff that went in there. The next few steps for the article will be to take it to GA, then get the League of Copywriters to take a look at it. Thanks. Aditya(talkcontribs) 17:26, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

  • Please! Please! Please! There should be a lot wrong with the article. I know that the intro is all wrong (but, that I plan to fix last), and there are loads of redlinks (I plan to address those the hard way - creating articles for each of those). And, there are a number of minor fixes proposed by the automatic suggestions. But, I am really expecting a more through scrutiny. Please. Aditya(talkcontribs) 15:45, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

AndyZ[edit]

  • A script has been used to generate a semi-automated review of the article for issues relating to grammar and house style. If you would find such a review helpful, please click here. Thanks, APR t 19:44, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Arman[edit]

  • Hi, here are a few improvement suggestions:
    • The introduction should be longer per WP:MoS  Done
    • An Upazila map (recreated based on the BD Gov map) could be added.  Done
    • The subsection title "Pilgrimage" doesn't seem appropriate. Should be Religious activity - or something like that.  Done

Otherwise the article is great. Should have been GA long ago. Arman (Talk) 02:22, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

Amartyabag[edit]

Geography
  • It is bounded by Mirsharai to the north, Pahartali to the south, Fatickchhari, Hathazari and Panchlaish to the south, and the Sandwip Channel in the Bay of Bengal to the west. What is in the eastern side???  Done
  • No Geo coordinates.  Done
  • A sentence about the loaction may be given in details. Ie. Repeat the first line in the intro
  • Wikify water divider  Done There is no wiki article that contains an explanation. Haryana uses the same term, though.
You can Wikify Water divide.Amartyabag TALK2ME 08:32, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
Thanks. Aditya(talkcontribs) 10:50, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
  • Use {{convert}} template where needed.  Done
  • There should be non-breaking space (&nbsp) between the units.  Done
  • The Girujan Clay Formation, named by P Evans[26], runs through Sitakunda at a thickness of 168 m.[27][28][29] In the Sitakunda hills the Boka Bil Shale Formation, named by P Evans... The sentences can be better structured, no need to mention named by P Evans as citations have been provided.  Done
Demographics
  • As of Bangladesh national population census 2001, Sitakunda has a population of (Female:Male ratio 121:100). ->According to the census of 2001, Sitakunda had a total population of 298,528 distributed to 55,837 units of households (average household size 5.3), including 163,561 men and 134,967 women. The gender ratio is 121:100.  Done
  • The average population of each ward, mahalla, union, mauza and villages respectively are 4072, 1666, 29853, 5060 and 5060. -> The census of 2001 recorded an average population of 4072, 1666, 29853, 5060 and 5060 person in each ward, mahalla, union, mauza and villages respectively.  Done
  • Moreover wikify or expain the terms like mahalla, union, mauza, thana, etc. Is average pupulation same as density of population ? Doing... To link these units, I'll need to create articles or at least stubs for each. Working on that. And, it's not population density. It says how many people leave on an average in the a village or a mauza etc. in the area.
  • Where is the religion wise breakup of population, crime chart, language spoken??  Done There is no data available on crime rates.
  • Sitakunda Town, the 28.63 km²... No need to make it bold and add area.  Done
  • Info about Administative chief, police, fire service must be provided.  Done Apparently Sitakunda has no fire station.
Other
  • As the info is very less, no need to create sub section in the history section, and also move this section in the top ie, first section.  Done
  • A paragraph about the ship breaking industry is enough, move the rest material into another new article. Not done There isn't enough material to justify a forking right now. May be things can evolve to that point later.
  • Environment section can be renamed as Flora and fauna  Done
  • Missing sections- Culture, Transport, Sport, Media.  Done Bundled together, mostly.
  • More photos can be added to enhance the article.  Done
  • Per Wikipedia:Context and Wikipedia:Build the web, years with full dates should be linked.  Done Done by User:LaraLove
  • As per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates), dates shouldn't use th; for example, instead of using January 30th was a great day, use 30 January was a great day.  Done Done by User:LaraLove
  • Try to Turn all the red links blue. Doing... Oh, new red links have a strange way of popping up constantly.

This is my basic observation. I may give another review if possible. Amartyabag TALK2ME 07:03, 17 December 2007 (UTC)

More observations

  • I don't know about the Bangladesh political system (i will learn about it in a day or two), but the political parties and members elected from the Upazila may be incorporated.  Done Incoporated the National Parliament results, but the short lived local government system for the Upazilas were abolished in 1991. BTW, I may be able to help in learning about the Bangladesh political system and create a few articles in the process.
  • The education system and boards must be mentioned.  Done

Amartyabag TALK2ME 14:56, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

  • The following lines in the society section according to me is unneccessary, In 2003, Atahar Siddik Khasru, the president of the local Press Club, went missing on 30 April and was rescued on 21 May.[102][103] He was abducted and tortured by unidentified men allegedly on charges of protesting against the harassment of Mahmudul Haq, editor of local magazine magazine Upanagar.[102][104] On 6 May, about 30 local journalists working for national and local press took to the streets in protest. I think this is not so relevant to the main context and may not be so important to mention in the main article and this line probably can find a place in the history section in another main article about the History of Sitakunda. This section can be renamed as Culture.  Done Renamed as Media and culture and expanded, too.
U can refer to the West Bengal or Kolkata articles for an idea about the Media and other sections. I think u can add the name of Newspapers, TV Channels, Internet services, telephones, etc. Amartyabag TALK2ME 13:07, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
Apart from the newspaper and the inicidents mentioned, it is the same as the rest in Bangladesh. There are no separate TV channels running from upazilas and so on. West Bengal is a entity as large as Bangladesh. I'd rather compare Sitakunda with Shiliguri or 24 Pargana (Kolkata compares to Dhaka). Aditya(talkcontribs) 15:25, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
  • The following must be mentioned; courts, electricity, fire stations and water supply.  Done
Can u provide the name of the Fire Service, is it provided by government or private???Amartyabag TALK2ME 13:07, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
There is no such thing in Sitakunda. Aditya(talkcontribs) 15:25, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Amartyabag TALK2ME 10:25, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

  • Yes, i know how small is Sitakunda; but can u name the telephone companies operating there and even can mention a line about that such and such papers are available in Sitakunda which are printed in Dhaka (or elsewhere).  Done

Amartyabag TALK2ME 16:16, 31 December 2007 (UTC)  Done

  • I have noticed that the period after the Partition of India and the significant events during Bangladesh Liberation War, Bengali Language Movement (if any) has not been mentioned. Doing... Apparently nothing worth mentioning has happened during the time. Trying to take a deeper look.
  • Pls add the facts. Another thing you have missed is the population density in the Demographics section Amartyabag TALK2ME 06:00, 1 January 2008 (UTC)  Done
 Note: Will it be wise to get the union parishads in list form and expand each union a bit? Aditya(talkcontribs) 16:18, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Yes, the article is going on the right track. Don't get disheartened it will surely achieve FA. One more thing i want to add is that, pls correct the citations, u can use WP:CITET for help and if possible create a navigational template on Chittagong division or Upazilas of BD. Amartyabag TALK2ME 11:02, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Aditya Kabir[edit]

Prose

Serious problem with the copy. Can someone go a bit specific on the copy, so a poor copywriter like me can follow the suggestions and get it fixed at least to a decent state? Aditya(talkcontribs) 16:18, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Bakasuprman[edit]

Paragraph 1 is a little unclear (in terms of history).

After the defeat of Sultan Ghiyasuddin Mahmud Shah by Sher Shah Suri in 1538, the Arakanese captured the region. The region was under the control of Portuguese pirates with Magh origins. In 1666, Mughal commander Bujurg Umed Khan conquered the area.[1]

The sentence on Portugal seems almost random, and if another clarifying sentence was given, talking about how the portugese took control, it would be more easy to read.  Done

Bakaman 20:24, 6 January 2008 (UTC)