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Trundling
[edit]- Trundling → Glossary of climbing terms (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
"Trun" appears nowhere in the target. ~ Tom.Reding (talk ⋅dgaf) 21:18, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - Implausible redirect unless/until the term is defined and sourced within the glossary article. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 23:45, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
R. Tucker
[edit]It isn't usual to have a redirect of a single initial and a surname without a good reason, and I can't determine what that reason is here. "R. Tucker" is very ambiguous: see Tucker (surname)#R. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:50, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Pinging @FloridaArmy:. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:53, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Slender man murder
[edit]- Slender man murder → Slender Man stabbing (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No Murder took place. Implausible redirect. Blethering Scot 19:58, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Outsmart
[edit]that's a common word. what do? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 19:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
world but with numbers!
[edit]- World 1 → Fancy Pants (video game series) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- World 2 → Fancy Pants (video game series) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
vague as h*ck. don't even think world 1-1 would be a fitting target for world 1 cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 18:52, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: As ambiguous. When I first saw this, I too immediately thought of the Super Mario Bros game. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:01, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - Hopelessly vague. "World #" is common parlance in video gaming for collections of levels, even if the game itself does not use the term. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 23:48, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Red neckrampage the game
[edit]- Red neckrampage the game → Redneck Rampage (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
very implausible pile of writing mistakes that started off as... an ad cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:40, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Duty calls
[edit]- Duty calls → Bulletstorm#Release (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Duty Calls → Bulletstorm#Release (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
that's a vague phrase. no idea if it should be soft redirected to wikt:duty calls, or just deleted, but the term doesn't seem primarily associated with bulletstorm cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:29, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Duke Nukem Whenever
[edit]- Duke Nukem Whenever → Development of Duke Nukem Forever#Press coverage (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
same-ish case as "duke nukem for never" below, different target for some reason. seems a little more commonly used though cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:27, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete The history is whenever the media asked about the release of Duke Nukem Forever before its 2011 launch, the developer said, "When it's done." but never whenever, so this redirect makes no possibility. – The Grid (talk) 12:56, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Extraction Point: Alien Shootout.
[edit]- Extraction Point: Alien Shootout. → Duke Nukem: Critical Mass (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
pointless point. cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:24, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Duke nukem for never
[edit]- Duke nukem for never → Duke Nukem Forever (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
that's actually pretty funny, but seemingly not commonly used even before the game released cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:20, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Duke 4
[edit]vague, and it's arguably not even the 4rd mainline installment (not that that means much with dick kickem) cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:18, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Duke Nukem (company names!)
[edit]- Duke Nukem (3D Realms) → Duke Nukem (character) (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Duke Nukem (Apogee Software) → Duke Nukem (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
two different targets for each- i'm not getting into the confusing history of apogee and 3d realms here, would the series article be the better target here? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:09, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Pig cop
[edit]similarly to doom not actually having invented demons or shotguns, duke nukem 3d didn't invent the concept of comparing american police to raw bacon. they're also a recurring enemy in the series, so it would probably be better off retargeted to the series' article anyway cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:03, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- wait, found the primary topic, it's in list of police-related slang terms, under p, so i'll vote for retargeting there. shoutouts to the unsourced mention of duki nuki there cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:15, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - Redirecting to PRST makes no sense here as the slang term is just "pig". While pig cops are a common enemy in Duke Nukem, they're just one of a multitude of enemies designed based off of the slang (another example being literal pig cops in Pizza Tower) and so the term is too ambiguous to justify a redirect nowadays. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 23:53, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Neo-newtonian
[edit]- Neo-newtonian → Spacetime (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Neo newtonian → Spacetime (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
This isn't explained at the target. 1234qwer1234qwer4 08:44, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: term is not used anywhere else on Wikipedia, and I see too many varied usages in sources for it to be targeted to any specific one. This use case certainly isn't the first I would suggest. If they had to go anywhere, I would think Newtonian would make the most sense, but without the wider usage on site it feels like keeping them for the sake of keeping. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 14:23, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Newtonian as an ambiguous term: seems to be used ([1][2][3][4], etc.). A mention may be warranted somewhere. C F A 💬 20:17, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
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Wiimake
[edit]Neologism not mentioned in the target. The term is not mentioned anywhere on Wikipedia. Mia Mahey (talk) 05:40, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- I can see it (and the alternate "Wii-make") being used in some news coverage, most prominently "The Case for Wiimakes", but not nearly enough that it would demand usage in the target article or anything. Not sure it does any harm, but the use case seems limited as well. I guess I lean toward deletion, but not strongly. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 14:18, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- i would ALMOST suggest retargeting to the vaguely klonoa-shaped travesty we were cursed with in 2008 as a half-joke, as that seems to be the primary topic for the entire term (not for a good reason, mind you), but that'd be cheap. as is, no idea if it would be better to retarget it to some list of wii games, add a mention there, or delete, but i'll stick with adding a mention for now cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 14:35, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: term is mentioned in reliable sources (Nintendo Life, Wired, eurogamer.net). No reason to delete. Obviously not notable on its own but a redirect is warranted. I would support a mention at Video game remake or elsewhere, but that is not needed for this to be kept. C F A 💬 20:13, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Nintendo Wii and mention the phenomenon somewhere. It's an actual slang term formerly used for porting games to Wii while adding motion controls. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 23:36, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
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Palestien
[edit]More likely a misspelling of Palestine - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 07:50, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Palestine - Apprently a common misspelling: [5] Ca talk to me! 10:07, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Palestine. Plausible misspelling. Glades12 (talk) 12:42, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Palestine - plausible typo. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 23:54, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Baguette City
[edit]Unlikely search term not mentioned at target. Clovermoss🍀 (talk) 06:39, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Looks like an {{r from meme}}, but a pretty small meme. Most uses online seem to be about restaurants instead. jlwoodwa (talk) 07:01, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
retarget to francedelete as a joke so common and predictable it could realistically refer to any single place in france cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 12:06, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Sand hanitizer
[edit]Calls for Joe Biden to suspend his 2024 United States presidential campaign
[edit]- Calls for Joe Biden to suspend his 2024 United States presidential campaign → Withdrawal of Joe Biden from the 2024 United States presidential election (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
List of Democrats who opposed the Joe Biden 2024 presidential campaign might be a better target. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 18:45, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Joe Biden 2024 presidential campaign#Calls to withdraw which explains the issue and has a see also link to the list. C F A 💬 19:49, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget per CFA. Thryduulf (talk) 13:03, 23 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete too long to be a helpful redirect. IP75 (talk) 02:02, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- Why? If someone is looking for encyclopaedic information about this subject this is a very likely search term for them to use. Thryduulf (talk) 09:18, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
- (involved) I'm fine with any option, lean on keep current redirect. For context, the option CFA suggests was the redirect target until Biden actually withdrew. I thought it would be a good idea to redirect the calls to withdraw to the final result of the withdrawal. Personally, I think the content about the calls leading up to Biden's withdrawal should also be on the page about the final result. Unnamed anon (talk) 21:02, 25 July 2024 (UTC)
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Power flower
[edit]- Power flower → Super Mario 64 DS#Gameplay (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
things named "power flower" have been in three mario games so far (though they're all different things), and none of them seem to be the primary target for the term cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 17:33, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- retarget to Flower power (disambiguation) or dabify base on the see also section of the aforementioned dab page --Lenticel (talk) 03:04, 26 July 2024 (UTC)
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Republican blue
[edit]- Republican blue → Red states and blue states (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
- Democrat red → Red states and blue states (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Huh? * Pppery * it has begun... 05:40, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- those sound more like pokémon fangames than political terms. delete per "what" cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 13:58, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete I searched on duck.com and saw no sources using this term. Best I found is Ron Paul 2012 presidential campaign § "Blue Republican" movement Ca talk to me! 16:16, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: This article explains the terms. C F A 💬 19:38, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Weak retarget Republican blue to Republican Blues. Steel1943 (talk) 21:50, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Retarget both to Political colour. Thryduulf (talk) 09:17, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Democrat red, retarget Republican blue to Republican Blues. We don't have articles on either of these topics, as those political parties don't use those colours, and judging by the stats nobody is searching for them either. Second preference is retargetting both to Political colour. BugGhost🦗👻 11:37, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- The colors used for US general presidential elections switched between red and blue prior to the 2000 US election. Republicans as blue in 1980 [6] and 1976 election. [7] I think a redirect to both red states and blue states is the most plausible version here. – The Grid (talk) 13:06, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Democratic parties in other countries use red. Thryduulf (talk) 13:11, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Safe state
[edit]- Safe state → Red states and blue states (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
Dubious primacy - searching for "safe state" is giving me lots of non-political ways a state can be safe. Suggest deletion unless a better target is found. * Pppery * it has begun... 05:38, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- delete as vague, as it's also subject to varying definitions of "state". could refer to a move in a fighting game being plus on block for all we know cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 14:00, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Change into disambiguation page. Doing our readers a better service than only pointing to one meaning or non at all. --Matthiaspaul (talk) 19:17, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. This is far too vague. I actually think the reader is better served by not cluttering the Search tool with a potentially confusing redirect. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 19:25, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Vague redirect with potential bias in reference to either subject of the current target. Steel1943 (talk) 21:16, 22 July 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: The redirect was created in 2011 to point to Swing state which says
.. the states that regularly lean to a single party are known as "safe states" (or more specifically as "red states" and "blue states" depending on the partisan leaning)
. Jay 💬 15:21, 29 July 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete given the ambiguity of the word 'state' itself. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 07:53, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Delete or disambig. This is vauge. My first thought was in the context of computing (c.f. Safe mode), search results show it is used in the context of US politics (and Australian politics), electronic hardware (e.g. Watchdog timer, Dead man's switch), industrial processes (e.g. Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant), Indian states ranking by safety of women, Airworthiness, and others. Reliability engineering seems to cover some of the hardware uses, but what state is a "safe" one is highly context dependent. If someone can craft a disambig for this I support that, but deletion is better if they can't. Thryduulf (talk) 09:30, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
Wrong warp
[edit]- Wrong warp → Sequence breaking (talk · links · history · stats) [ Closure: keep/retarget/delete ]
No mention of "wrong warp" exists in the target. Mia Mahey (talk) 00:36, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- It's a video game glitch where a warp sends you to the wrong place. Secondary coverage is bare but passable – Ars Technica and Kotaku have a paragraph and a sentence on it respectively. They don't connect it to sequence breaking though, so it's hard to justify describing it in that article. Maybe it could go in Glossary of video game terms?
- It's also an episode of Meta Runner, but that's definitely not the primary topic. jlwoodwa (talk) 08:11, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Actually, Ars Technica says wrong warping allows
skipping a large section of World 8-4
– sounds like sequence breaking to me. jlwoodwa (talk) 08:16, 30 July 2024 (UTC)- it's a sequence breaking glitch used in super mario bros 3 speedruns, so they're all technically correct cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 15:57, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Actually, Ars Technica says wrong warping allows
- the term seems pretty much exclusively used to refer to a speedrunning glitch in super mario bros. 3, so i'd say retarget to it. or to speedrunning if there's no room to add a mention to any other targets cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 11:24, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - wrong warping is a technique/glitch where a warp (eg. through a door/loading screen/teleporter/whatever) takes you to the "wrong" place, which is used by sequence breakers. It's used in multiple Mario games (at least original SMB and SMB3, probably others), Pokemon games, Elden Ring, and others. Should be kept because a wrong warp is a way of sequence breaking. Would also be fine with retargetting to Glitching or Speedrunning if consensus leans that way. BugGhost🦗👻 11:56, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Warp (video games) and add some sort of explanation. I've heard it used to describe numerous glitches in which teleportation causes a character to end up in the wrong level or area. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 22:34, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- Retarget to Warp (video games) and edit target to add explanation - A wrong warp, while oftentimes used in sequence breaking, isn't always beneficial (it's plausible a wrong-warp may send you back or, as in the case of World -1 in Super Mario Bros., softlock the game) and so the article on video game warps is a more reasonable target. —Jéské Couriano v^_^v threads critiques 23:57, 30 July 2024 (UTC)