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February 28[edit]

What is "the former F. Patt Price"[edit]

At Fred_Haise#Personal_life it says he is married to "the former F. Patt Price". But I don't quite understand who or what that is. Is it:

Ms F. Patt Price, who is now deceased (doesn't make sense to be still married), or
somebody that used to be called "F. Patt Price", but is now called something different (what?), or
some special title relevant to those in the U.S. that is unknown elsewhere (some reference, please! Google showed up almost nothing), or
something else, or
just really badly worded?

Thanks peterl (talk) 08:05, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

It seems obvious to me that F. Patt Price was her name when she married. After her marriage she was called F. Patt Haise - here. Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:09, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

As GHmyrtle says. This is a standard way of indicating a woman who is now married and hence her surname is now the same as her husband's. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 08:52, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

And I see you changed it to "F. Patt (nee Price)". That implies "Patt" is her original surname. I rather doubt that that's correct. I have changed it back to what it was, which would seem to be the correct way to say it. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 08:55, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

The standard convention is to show nee after a surname, such as Jane Doe (nee Smith). There is argument over using parenthesis or commas, but the order is very well set. You don't use nee without the current surname, as in Jane nee Smith. 209.149.113.5 (talk) 13:00, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

I don't think Bugs is quibbling about that, but about her maiden name (i.e. the name she had before she married). It reads to me thus: She has two given names. She uses the first initial F because she chooses not to use the first given name. She uses her second given name, which is "Patt". Her maiden name was "Price" before she married Mr Haise. You should amend it to "F. Patt Haise (nee Price)" if that is the case. --TammyMoet (talk) 13:57, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Her name was "Price" before she married Halse, but that does not mean that "Price" was her maiden name. She could have had a previous marriage. DuncanHill (talk) 14:00, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

That's why "the former F. Patt Price" works. ←Baseball Bugs ^{What's up, Doc?} carrots→ 16:37, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

To give an example of how complicated it can be, consider the case of Beth Holloway who's maiden name as per our article is Reynolds. She married David Holloway and I think took his surname. Then later divorced. I'm not sure what name she went under during this time. Later she married George "Jug" Twitty, and then either went by Beth Twitty and Beth Holloway-Twitty (I'm not sure whether she used both at the same time or one and then the other or what). Later she divorced Jug and then went back to being Beth Holloway. If she remarries someone who is neither Reynolds, Twitty or Holloway, and adopts his or her surname, she'll be something else and the former Beth Holloway although Holloway is neither her maiden name or her immediate former spouse's surname. Nil Einne (talk) 11:51, 3 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks a lot Baseball Bugs Sawongam (talk) 02:33, 2 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

About EP[edit]

Can anyone explain me What is Extended play??? I had seen article for Extended play ,but didn't get it ! Sawongam (talk) 15:11, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

An EP is an Extended Play record, it has more tracks than a single, but fewer than an album. DuncanHill (talk) 15:15, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry I didn't get it !! Can you explain me more briefly DuncanHill Sawongam (talk) 15:20, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

OK. For much of the middle 20th century, music was released on physical media known as a phonograph record, a large, usually black plastic disc with a long groove that encoded the music. The groove was read by a tiny needle that would rest in the groove and vibrate; these vibrations were picked up by the needle, sent to an electronic amplifier to increase the signal strength, and then sent to your speakers or headphones for listening. So, those black discs came in three standard formats:

Single, which generally had only one song on each side of the disc (about 3-5 minutes per side)
Extended play or simply EP, which generally had 2-3 songs on each side of the disc (about 10-12 minutes per side)
Long play or simply LP, also called an "album", which generally had 5-6 songs on each side of the disc (20-25 minutes per side)

An EP therefore was a phonograph record that had about 20-24 minutes of music on it. When other media, such as 8-track tape, cassette tape, compact discs, and finally digital distribution came on board, the terminology (single, EP, and album) continued to be used for music releases of those approximate lengths even though the music was not released on phonographic records. Thus an "EP" just means a musical release that consists of 4 or so songs, or about 20 minutes of music. 1-2 song releases are still called "singles" and longer releases (40+ minutes) are called "albums" even though the media for which those terms were created are now not the main way we consume music. I hope that explanation made sense, and I've included many links to articles so you can read more yourself. --Jayron 32 15:30, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Shut In (2016 film) ending ?[edit]

I've read reviews that say it had one of the worst "twist" endings ever, but have yet to see it described. So, what's the ending ?

Spoiler warning (please put ending in here). StuRat (talk) 19:13, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
Basic plot (removing a lot of extra stuff that doesn't need to be in the film): Mother is stuck at home caring for a paralyzed son. Mother can't explain noises and other things happening and gets spooked. Turns out the son is not paralyzed and just wants a lot of attention. That is the big twist. 209.149.113.5 (talk) 19:49, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. That's pretty bad all right. StuRat (talk) 21:49, 28 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

And very far from original. A 2014 episode of the BBC's Father Brown (2013 TV series) used a variation of the same twist (hopefully that's too vague to be a spoiler). {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 94.12.75.147 (talk) 18:07, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Many mystery stories have used the trope - enough that if you know there is a twist, it is the first thing you suspect. When the characters are introduced that one is clearly the guy who couldn't do it, you know that he is the one who did it. 209.149.113.5 (talk) 19:55, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Sounds like a challenge. How about a movie where the perp is the person who dies in the opening scene, in front of everyone, and has his head severed from his body, clearly visible for the rest of the film ? I suppose we could still make it work if the dead guy is actually his identical twin. StuRat (talk) 22:05, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Saw is pretty close, where two of the main characters wake up next to what they think is a dead body. uhhlive (talk) 22:56, 1 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

One of the twists in Until Dawn is that the perpetrator turns out to be someone who was cut completely in half by a circular saw onscreen. Smurrayinchester 08:57, 2 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]

How did that work ? StuRat (talk) 16:17, 2 March 2017 (UTC)[reply]