Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2015 August 19
August 19
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The result of the discussion was delete. Opabinia regalis (talk) 05:24, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
With only three links that all appear in the main article, this template is redundant. Snuggums (talk / edits) 23:02, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
- Take to talk page for consensus. The presence of template does not violate any stated reasons to delete it per Wikipedia:Templates for discussion#REASONS. That link further states, "If a template is being misused, consider clarifying its documentation to indicate the correct use, or informing those that misuse it, rather than nominating it for deletion. Initiate a discussion on the template talk page if the correct use itself is under debate." Since User:SNUGGUMS believes "this template is redundant," then this would qualify as "being misused". According to this wikipedia policy the proper forum for seeking Wikipedia:Consensus would be on Template talk:Iggy Azalea sidebar and/or Talk:Iggy Azalea. Mitchumch (talk) 13:34, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
- There actually is already a precedent set for not having such sidebars when they only have three links (including bio page) that all appear in bio. Snuggums (talk / edits) 14:41, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
- I am not aware of those precedents. Could you present them so they can reviewed? Mitchumch (talk) 15:11, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
- See Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2014 February 17#Template:Robert De Niro sidebar, which led to Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2014 November 22#Template:George Clooney sidebar, Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2014 December 23#Template:Jim Carrey sidebar, and Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2014 December 28#Template:Tom Cruise sidebar. All these sidebars had links already contained in bio page. Snuggums (talk / edits) 18:38, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
- Understood. I have a few concerns. According to Wikipedia:Templates for discussion#REASONS it states, "consider clarifying its documentation to indicate the correct use". I did not see a central page for this type of template. Consequently, there is no documentation to indicate correct usage. Also, there is no "What links here" page to list the number of pages that use this type of side bar. Ideally, all pages with this type of sidebar would had have a warning message notifying interested editors of this discussion. These issues need to be rectified.
- See Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2014 February 17#Template:Robert De Niro sidebar, which led to Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2014 November 22#Template:George Clooney sidebar, Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2014 December 23#Template:Jim Carrey sidebar, and Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2014 December 28#Template:Tom Cruise sidebar. All these sidebars had links already contained in bio page. Snuggums (talk / edits) 18:38, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
- I am not aware of those precedents. Could you present them so they can reviewed? Mitchumch (talk) 15:11, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
- There actually is already a precedent set for not having such sidebars when they only have three links (including bio page) that all appear in bio. Snuggums (talk / edits) 14:41, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
- Final point. On the Wikipedia:Templates for discussion/Log/2014 February 17#Template:Robert De Niro sidebar discussion I counted 29 votes (votes!) (Delete - 15 (51.7%), Keep - 12 (41.4%), Comments - 2 (6.9%)). Many editors that chose delete saw no use for the sidebar templates whatsoever as it would duplicate the "See also" section in the main article. That position is substantially different from the "when they only have three links" rule that was applied to this template. Consequently, the presence, not the number of links within these type of sidebars, needs to be established. Thank you for addressing my previous concerns. Mitchumch (talk) 04:22, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
- Delete. Incomplete compared to Category:Iggy Azalea, duplicative of Template:Iggy Azalea. The talk page should be notified when they see that the article is listed and CFD is a broader and better review of consensus than just the article talk page. The De Niro sidebar was deleted because it's not just a vote so unless Mitchumch takes all those to DRV and get them all overturned, that discussion and the consensus otherwise supports deletion. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 02:29, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
- delete per precedent. Frietjes (talk) 19:14, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- Delete – per above. -- Frankie talk 09:33, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. Templates that become outdated are generally a Very Bad Idea; if recreated for the current parliament, it would need to state a time period. (nac) Alakzi (talk) 08:25, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
This template is very out of date, the last time the content was edited was 29 January 2008. Lots has happened in SA politics since then but the template has not been changed. I don't think the template serves a useful purpose which is probabaly why nobody has had the will to keep it up to date. I my view it is better to have no information than wrong information Wayne Jayes (talk) 10:10, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
I would say: Delete, while it would be easy to update, I cannot find any purpose that this template would serve, or any article that would benefit from its inclusion. --DSBennie (talk) 09:58, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. Opabinia regalis (talk) 05:24, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
Orphaned template. Ricky81682 (talk) 08:58, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was delete. (non-admin closure) BethNaught (talk) 06:25, 27 August 2015 (UTC)
- Template:Activityfeed (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Unused userspace feed. Ricky81682 (talk) 08:55, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
- Delete all it does is {{Special:Recentchanges/50}} -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 06:31, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was redirect. Opabinia regalis (talk) 05:25, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
- Template:AU$/doc (talk · history · transclusions · logs · subpages)
Orphaned template. The template it is for Template:AU$ is now a redirect and thus there is Template:AUD/doc. Ricky81682 (talk) 08:53, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
- Redirect to the new doc page -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 06:31, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
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The result of the discussion was keep. Opabinia regalis (talk) 05:25, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
This isn't necessary to be a template. It's only on three pages, static information and can easily be copied if another article is created. Ricky81682 (talk) 08:50, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose Pretty standard for seasons standings to be templated to make sure the data remains consistent even if it is static. While only on 3 pages right now it will end up on season pages for every team involved in that season. -DJSasso (talk) 03:23, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
- Oppose as per DJSasso –B2Project(Talk) 18:10, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
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