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Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin November Issue 2

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MediaWiki message delivery 18:18, 25 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia Foundation banner fundraising campaign in Australia, Canada, Ireland, New Zealand, the UK, and the US starts next week

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Dear all,

As mentioned previously, the WMF is running its annual banner fundraising campaign for non logged in users in Australia, Canada, Ireland, New Zealand, the UK, and the US from the 2nd to the 31st of December 2024.

You can find more information around the campaign on the community collaboration page.

Generally, before and during the campaign, you can contact us:

Thank you and regards, JBrungs (WMF) (talk) 05:54, 27 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If it starts next week, then why have I been seeing it for several weeks already? 216.147.127.204 (talk) 17:39, 28 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The future of US government web sites as sources

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I am posting this here because it has very broad implications for the project and may require foundation help in the coming weeks. Wikipedia articles on energy and the environment and other many other subjects rely on data from US government web sites, which are generally regarded as authoritative. There is a significant likelihood that many or all of these sites will be taken offline after January 20, 2025 when the US administration changes over. Is the foundation participating in any organized effort to back this material up? Can we just rely on the Internet Archive? What happens if the new administration puts up conflicting data? Will editors be free to "correct" articles based on what newer Government websites say, regardless of scientific backing? We do not have a lot of time to think this through.--agr (talk) 19:02, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I understand (and share) your concern, but deciding which sources are reliable is an editorial decision which the WMF does not get involved in. Sources that were once considered reliable can have their reputation reevaluated if conditions warrant, and even sources that are generally considered reliable should always be examined with a critical eye to ensure that any particular statement holds up to the general reputation.
This is an important issue, but it's just not one that the WMF has any input on. I would suggest asking this at WT:RS or perhaps WP:RSN. RoySmith (talk) 19:44, 1 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I know, whenever something is cited on Wikipedia, the Internet Archive automatically takes a snapshot of it. You can contact someone like GreenC to confirm this.
The rest of your post seems like it would be a good fit for WP:RSN. Reliable sources have become unreliable before, and RSN can handle reducing a source's ranking on the WP:RSPSOURCES list when that situation comes to pass. A note will even be added to the entry stating that it used to be reliable, and after what date it became unreliable. However, it might be jumping the gun to post about this before it actually happens. There's not really anything to do yet. –Novem Linguae (talk) 00:27, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Do you have a specific source for the allegations that many or all of these sites will be taken offline after January 20, 2025? Yes, the Dept. of Ed website's not going to be up anymore if that agency is axed, but this isn't the first post that I've seen here predicting that the administration change will be the end of America as we know it. Yes, if the energy/climate/public health sites go downhill we can/will revisit how we handle those sources. But all of this doom and gloom is overwrought, like when people I knew thought Obama was the antichrist or that Hillary was going to put Christians into death camps. This is Wikipedia, not Reddit. I thought we were a little more level-headed here. Hog Farm Talk 02:01, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We had a nice four years where the main agitators in AMPOL were right-wing nuts. These are pretty easy to take care of, since they have virtually zero social capital on Wikipedia. They can be overruled and the community is ready to ban them at the drop of a hat if they get frustrated and lash out. Now we can look forward to four years where the main agitators will be left-wing nuts and #Resistance. This is harder to deal with because these people do have social capital on Wikipedia and have wikifriends (including several established editors and admins) to come back them up in disputes or tilt consensus. I suspect we can also look forward to more Anti-American bigotry toward subjects and editors as well. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 19:43, 3 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Just a note, since the new administration can make changes, this should have implications to the past of US government web sites as sources. Cinadon36 08:05, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Recent WMF update on ANI case

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Noting that the WMF has posted an update on the ANI case here on 2 December, for those interested. —Ganesha811 (talk) 12:37, 4 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I can’t upload Auferstanden aus Ruinen

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You see, the East German anthem doesn’t have an audio file because when I tried to upload it, it doesn’t work. It keeps telling it is unconstructive, but there is no other file. Same thing for the Chechen anthem, even thought the file doesn’t work on mobile. 197.167.245.218 (talk) 11:27, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Have you tried uploading it to https://commons.wikimedia.org? If that doesn't work, maybe post on their commons:Commons:Help desk. –Novem Linguae (talk) 18:46, 6 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Wikimedia Foundation Bulletin December Issue

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MediaWiki message delivery 18:03, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]