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Today's featured article for July 29, 2024
SMS Bodrog on the Danube river in 1914 *Sava* was a river monitor, originally built for the Austro-Hungarian Navy as SMS Bodrog. She and two other monitors fired the first shots of World War I in the early hours of 29 July 1914, when they shelled Serbian defences near Belgrade. During the war, she fought the Serbian and Romanian armies, and was captured in its closing stages. She was transferred to the newly created Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes (later Yugoslavia), and renamed Sava. During the Axis invasion of Yugoslavia in April 1941, she fought off several air attacks, but was scuttled on 11 April. Sava was later raised by the Axis puppet state, the Independent State of Croatia, and continued to serve under that name until 1944 when she was again scuttled. Following World War II, Sava was raised again, and was refurbished to serve in the Yugoslav Navy from 1952 to 1962. After that she became a gravel barge, but was later restored and opened as a floating museum in November 2021. (Full article...) Recently featured: Darkness on the Edge of Town Aston Martin DB9 1896 Summer Olympics Archive By email More featured articles About view – talk – edit – history – watch
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2012 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Socialist Party of America (maintenance)
Omitted: Treaty of Amity and Commerce (United States–Japan); 1967 USS Forrestal fire; Indo-Sri Lanka Accord
Included: ENIAC (8th appearance, last in 2010); No Gun Ri Massacre (first appearance); Kasai River disaster (first appearance)
Repeats: Battle of Kleidion (5th consecutive appearance, 5 total); Arc de Triomphe (2nd consecutive appearance, 5 total)

NOTE: Wedding of Charles, Prince of Wales, and Lady Diana Spencer was included at one point, but omitted again because Wedding of Prince William and Catherine Middleton had appeared on April 29 and Wedding of Victoria, Crown Princess of Sweden, and Daniel Westling was POTD on June 19 this year. —howcheng {chat} 20:54, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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1947 entry: The Aberdeen proving grounds need 'Maryland, U.S.' adding after them. Countries need giving in all entries unless it is somewhere really obvious like London or New York or Paris. The US is not the default here. Stronach (talk) 22:34, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Stronach (talk) 22:34, 28 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Done, but I didn't think the location was particularly important in that blurb. —howcheng {chat} 06:25, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

2013 notes[edit]

Omitted: Battle of Kleidion; Arc de Triomphe; ENIAC; No Gun Ri Massacre; Wedding of Charles, Prince of Wales, and Lady Diana Spencer; Kasai River disaster
Included: Siege of Damascus (1148) (first appearance); Treaty of Amity and Commerce (United States–Japan) (5th appearance, last in 2011); Hague Conventions of 1899 and 1907 (first appearance); NASA (7th appearance, last in 2010); Indo-Sri Lanka Accord (2nd appearance, last in 2011)

—howcheng {chat} 06:31, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

2014 notes[edit]

Omitted: Siege of Damascus (1148); Treaty of Amity and Commerce (United States–Japan); Hague Conventions of 1899 and 1907; NASA; Indo-Sri Lanka Accord
Included: Battle of Kleidion (6th appearance, last in 2012; 1,000th anniversary); Arc de Triomphe (6th appearance, last in 2012); Belle Boyd (first appearance); 1967 USS Forrestal fire (2nd appearance, last in 2011); Kasai River disaster (2nd appearance, last in 2012)

—howcheng {chat} 07:12, 28 July 2014 (UTC)[reply]

2015 notes[edit]

Omitted: Battle of Kleidion; Belle Boyd; 1967 USS Forrestal fire
Included: Siege of Damascus (1148) (2nd appearance, last in 2013); No Gun Ri Massacre (2nd appearance, last in 2012); Wedding of Charles (2nd appearance, last in 2012)
Repeats: Arc de Triomphe (2nd consecutive appearance, 7 total); Kasai River disaster (2nd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

—howcheng {chat} 08:21, 27 July 2015 (UTC)[reply]

2016 notes[edit]

Omitted: Siege of Damascus (1148); Arc de Triomphe; No Gun Ri Massacre; Wedding of Charles, Prince of Wales, and Lady Diana Spencer; Kasai River disaster
Included: Battle of Kleidion (7th appearance, last in 2014); Treaty of Amity and Commerce (United States–Japan) (6th appearance, last in 2013); Hague Conventions of 1899 and 1907 (2nd appearance, last in 2013); NASA (8th appearance, last in 2013); Indo-Sri Lanka Accord (3rd appearance, last in 2013)

—howcheng {chat} 07:12, 29 July 2016 (UTC)[reply]

2017 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: ENIAC (maintenance); 1967 USS Forrestal fire (maintenance); Wedding of Charles, Prince of Wales, and Lady Diana Spencer (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Edward Gierek
Omitted: Battle of Kleidion; Treaty of Amity and Commerce (United States–Japan) (ineligible—maintenance); Hague Conventions of 1899 and 1907 (ineligible—maintenance); NASA
Included: Siege of Damascus (1148) (3rd appearance, last in 2015); Arc de Triomphe (8th appearance, last in 2015); Cape Cod Canal (first appearance); Kasai River disaster (4th appearance, last in 2015); Francesco Mochi (first appearance); Philip Charles Durham (first appearance); Ronald Fisher (first appearance)
Repeats: Indo-Sri Lanka Accord (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total; 30th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 07:14, 29 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

2018 notes[edit]

Omitted: Arc de Triomphe (ineligible—maintenance); Cape Cod Canal; Indo-Sri Lanka Accord; Kasai River disaster; Francesco Mochi; Philip Charles Durham; Ronald Fisher
Included: Augustin-Jean Fresnel (first appearance; 200th anniversary); Yugoslav monitor Sava (first appearance); NASA (9th appearance, last in 2016; 60th anniversary); Wedding of Prince Charles and Lady Diana Spencer (3rd appearance, last in 2015; rescued from Ineligible); Ivan Aivazovsky (first appearance); Isabel, Princess Imperial of Brazil (5th appearance, last in 2009; previously appeared on May 13); Edward Gierek (first appearance)
Repeats: Siege of Damascus (1148) (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total)

—howcheng {chat} 03:14, 29 July 2018 (UTC)[reply]

2019 notes[edit]

New articles (unused): Pupienus; Ladislaus I of Hungary; Clara Bow; Foster Furcolo
Omitted: Siege of Damascus (1148); Augustin-Jean Fresnel; NASA; Wedding of Prince Charles and Lady Diana Spencer; Ivan Aivazovsky; Isabel, Princess Imperial of Brazil; Edward Gierek
Included: Battle of Kleidion (8th appearance, last in 2016); Belle Boyd (2nd appearance, last in 2014); No Gun Ri massacre (3rd appearance, last in 2015); Kasai River disaster (5th appearance, last in 2017); Offa of Mercia (first appearance); Isidor Isaac Rabi (first appearance); Sanjay Dutt (first appearance; 60th birthday)
Repeats: Yugoslav monitor Sava (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 17:51, 5 August 2019 (UTC)[reply]

2020 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: NASA (maintenance); Indo-Sri Lanka Accord (maintenance); Clara Bow (date not certain)
Omitted: Battle of Kleidion; Belle Boyd; Yugoslav monitor Sava; Kasai River disaster (ineligible—date not certain); Offa of Mercia; Isidor Isaac Rabi; Sanjay Dutt
Included: Battle of Landen (first appearance; rescued from Ineligible); Augustin-Jean Fresnel (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Gaetano Bresci (3rd appearance, last in 2019; also appeared on November 10, his birthday); Pupienus (first appearance); Alexis de Tocqueville (first appearance); Vincent van Gogh (12th appearance, last in 2017; normally appears on December 23)
Repeats: No Gun Ri massacre (2nd consecutive appearance, 4 total; 70th anniversary)

—howcheng {chat} 16:47, 30 July 2020 (UTC)[reply]

2021 notes[edit]

New articles (unused): Virginia S. Baker
Omitted: Augustin-Jean Fresnel; Gaetano Bresci; No Gun Ri massacre; Pupienus; Alexis de Tocqueville; Ronald Fisher
Included: Cape Cod Canal (2nd appearance, last in 2017); The Lord of the Rings (first appearance); Wedding of Prince Charles and Lady Diana Spencer (4th appearance, last in 2018; 40th anniversary); Ladislaus I of Hungary (first appearance); Isabel, Princess Imperial of Brazil (6th appearance, last in 2018; 175th birthday); Edward Gierek (2nd appearance, last in 2018; 20th anniversary)
Repeats: Battle of Landen (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total)

—howcheng {chat} 04:19, 31 July 2021 (UTC)[reply]

2022 notes[edit]

Omitted: Battle of Landen; Cape Cod Canal; Wedding of Prince Charles and Lady Diana Spencer; Ladislaus I of Hungary; Edward Gierek
Included: Battle of Kleidion (9th appearance, last in 2019); Augustin-Jean Fresnel (3rd appearance, last in 2020); Yugoslav monitor Sava (3rd appearance, last in 2019); Ivan Aivazovsky (2nd appearance, last in 2018); Isidor Isaac Rabi (2nd appearance, last in 2019)
Repeats: The Lord of the Rings (2nd consecutive appearance, 2 total); Isabel, Princess Imperial of Brazil (2nd consecutive appearance, 7 total)

—howcheng {chat} 16:15, 2 August 2022 (UTC)[reply]

2023 notes[edit]

Moved to Ineligible: Belle Boyd (maintenance)
New articles (unused): Shinano River; Essential Commodities Reserves Act 1938
Omitted: Augustin-Jean Fresnel; Yugoslav monitor Sava; Ivan Aivazovsky; Isabel, Princess Imperial of Brazil; Isidor Isaac Rabi
Included: Gaetano Bresci (3rd appearance on July 29, last in 2020; 4 total); Cape Cod Canal (3rd appearance, last in 2021); Wedding of Prince Charles and Lady Diana Spencer (5th appearance, last in 2021); Offa of Mercia (2nd appearance, last in 2019); Francisco Rodrigues da Cruz (first appearance); Nancy Kassebaum (first appearance); Oliver Dragojević (first appearance)
Repeats: Battle of Kleidion (2nd consecutive appearance, 10 total);The Lord of the Rings (3nd consecutive appearance, 3 total)

Heart ^(talk) 06:51, 6 August 2023 (UTC)[reply]