Talk:List of energy drinks

Pepsi

Surely pepsi isn't stronger than red bull caffeine-wise? The '10' seems like an error... I would've thought it would be closer to 1.0! —Preceding unsigned comment added by CherryMay (talk • contribs) 21:17, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

If anyone is bored...

They could try and incorporate this list here: http://www.energyfiend.com/the-caffeine-database/

62.189.71.66 (talk) 21:47, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

The limitation is notability of a corporation or product, not a source. Also, that doesn't look like a WP:RS. Really, the best place to go for caffeine levels is the corporation's website. WLU (talk) 21:54, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

List other stimulants

This article could be improved if more information was given on other stimulants and their effects. For example, sugar has a well known stimulative effect, and has long been used in combination with caffeine. Significant amounts of B vitamins provide a stimulative effect, and so do ginseng, guarana, ginger, and a long list of other botanically derived or manufactured substances; each with unique pharmaco-toxicology and ethnobotanical traditions. The original formulation of Coca Cola, for example had a kick well beyond mere caffeine. Some of these compounds have additive effects with caffeine, others may have synergistic effects. Tea drinkers will note the difference in kind, not just magnitude, resulting from the stimulative effects of theobromine. - Michael J Swassing (talk) 20:08, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

The page is a list, not an article, you may want to bring this up at stimulant. List pages like this one have very little text or explanation. WLU (talk) 20:19, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

I agree, whats the point of only saying how much caffeine are in these drinks, most energy drinks use other stimulants to reduce the amount of caffeine in it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joshhsoj1902 (talk • contribs) 02:30, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Restrict to notable?

Should the list be restricted to notable drinks only? Only drinks with full caffeine or other context information? Otherwise this seems like a violation of not a misc. collection of information. WLU (talk) 20:14, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

I think it's a little hypocritical to on the one hand ask for help in expanding the list (with the {{Incomplete-list}} template at the top of the page) and on the other, reject new entries because they're not notable enough. For new entries going forward, we should request, at a minimum, an external link to a product page or (preferably) a link to the product's nutrition facts page, noting it's caffeine content. I think any drink that meets the criteria of an energy drink and these few rules should be allowed on this page. — EagleOne\^Talk 17:43, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

You mean restrict list only to those that can reference the caffeine contents via product link? There's a line between being overly restrictive and letting the page get stuffed with hoaxes, dead products, and incredibly non-notable products. I think referenced caffeine levels would be a good way of navigating the between the extremes. WLU (talk) 18:03, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, that's what I mean. I agree, requiring a reference to the product's caffeine levels would be a good compromise between the two extremes. Here's another idea; we could create another section, for drinks which do not publish caffeine levels on their product websites. That way we can include the products in this list, with a disclaimer that the caffeine data cannot be established or confirmed. — EagleOne\^Talk 16:43, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

NOS

The caffeine listings for NOS energy drink are inaccurate. The article claims there are 845 mg/L of caffeine in the drink, but I just bought a bottle that says it has 343mg in a 650mL bottle. This math obviously doesn't add up. However, the calculation of mg/fluid OZ is accurate. Don't know what's going on here. 99.249.189.179 (talk) 03:04, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Caffeine per serving

Dr. Pepper couldn't have 42mg of caffeine in a 12oz serving and 55mg in an 8oz serving. It should be 39mg in an 8oz serving and 55mg for a 12oz serving. I didn't recalculate any of the others, but, according to some other comments, there may be more errors.76.199.165.151 (talk) 03:21, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

Commercial Claims

One of the products listed famously "scolds" energy drinks for having guarana ("tsk tsk") and, hence, causing "a debilitating crash." It, however, has a 4.2 times the caffeine concentration (mg/L) than Red Bull. Due to the small size of the serving, the total dose of caffeine is the same. Nonetheless, it is difficult to see how this product would last longer or wear off more gradually than any other energy drink. I hope it's clear that the "energy" these beverages allegedly provide comes from the feeling produced by gobs of caffeine. Any other ingredients are present in such small amounts or do so little that they are of negligible value. The exception to this is the sugar, of course. This is why many people crash when using these products. Your insulin rises in response to the rapid (!) increase in blood sugar, which drives it lower than it was to begin with. This, along with the wearing off of the caffeine drops some people like a hot potato. It's probably cheaper to eat a couple of donuts and drink a large cola. You'll get the same effect in the beginning and at the end. No one should use these products who have high blood pressure, kidney disease, cardiac arrhythmias, a history of stroke, or certain psychiatric ailments. Sleep, eat right, and exercise and you'll have plenty of energy. 76.199.165.151 (talk) 03:41, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

AMP caffeine (newer versions)

I just noticed that the caffeine content per 8 oz serving of AMP Energy is listed at 71mg, which is correct for the original AMP per the Pepsi website sourced. However, the newer variations of AMP that are out - Elevate, Overdrive, Traction, and Relaunch - all have 80mg of caffeine instead. Should this be added as a footnote, or something? I noticed it just from looking at the can, but this information is supported by the existing source as well. *Vendetta* _{(whois talk edits)} 06:03, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

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What is Magnum? Has anyone heard of this drink? Supposed to have viagra in? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thomasgx1 (talk • contribs) 15:59, 11 May 2009 (UTC)

Error in Redline

I just wanted to point out that under Redline it says 250 milligrams per serving, but on the bottle (which I am looking at as I type this) clearly exclaims in large font that the bottle contains two servings of 125 milligrams each. I am going to change the article to correct this minor factual inaccuracy. Thanks! Dudemeister1234 (talk) 19:31, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

I'm doing something similar to the Monster entry. It's sold in 16 oz. cans, but the label says a single serving is 8 oz. In addition, I'll add a note about the two servings/can in the notes section, and propose that others do the same.--Spiff666 (talk) 12:53, 19 June 2009 (UTC)

Vault and Urge?

Why are these sodas on this list? Vault is marketed at a hybrid energy soda. It is sold as a soda, and isn't an energy drink. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.235.220.114 (talk) 21:45, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

If I have a cooked steak and I "sell" (market) it as a "chemically-altered coagulated protein slab experience", that does not mean it is not a steak.

That is not the best example I could use but it's 1 AM and I have too much caffeine in my body to think properly.

That said, if I have an energy drink and I "sell" (market) it as a "hybrid energy soda" that does not mean it is not an energy drink.

Energy drinks are drinks - sometimes carbonated, sometimes not - with caffeine added, to give you "energy" (really not chemical energy like the body gets from carbohydrates (or fats or proteins), but simply stimulus from the caffeine ramping up your nervous system)...energy soda, energy drink...basically "energy soda" means "carbonated energy drink" but since most energy drinks are carbonated it would be redundant.

I suppose to be completely fair it's debatable whether Vault is an "energy drink" or just a kind of pop with more caffeine than normal...Coca-Cola has caffeine but most people would not say "Coke is an energy drink!"...then again Vault is the only "hybrid energy soda" I know of, so if you were going to eliminate the "in-between" category and call all drinks either regular soda/pop or energy drinks I would put Vault in the energy drink category, but that's just me.

And since there's only one hybrid energy soda (Vault, but if you know of others feel free to correct me) my guess is Wikipedia is like, "Well, no point in making a category for just one drink all on its own" so they put it in with energy drinks to make life easy for people...so if you were looking for Vault and searched for "soda" and you didn't find Vault you would probably type in "energy drink" next and find it...but not a lot of people would remember specifically that it is marketed as a "hybrid" and so not a lot of people would use hybrid as a search term. You have to remember that Wikipedia tries to use the name/type of something that it can find that most people use, not the "proper" name...so if most people called RoboCop, I don't know, Tech-Lawbringer, the Wiki article about Robo would be titled Tech-Lawbringer even though his actual name is RoboCop. And it would probably start something like "ROBOCOP, commonly known as 'Tech-Lawbringer'..." or "TECH-LAWBRINGER, properly known as 'RoboCop'..."

So there you go! --66.183.186.220 (talk) 08:21, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Idea for a more relevant table

Hi all! This energy drink is *so* irrelevant outside the US. The table should at least include a "country" column. I know of at least 5 major South-East Asian brands which are unlisted...

Rdavout (talk) 08:24, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

You can go ahead and add the non-US brands to the table without needing a country column; let me know if you need help doing this. UnitedStatesian (talk) 17:33, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

Radioactive Energy Drink

Here's the link for the ingredients and stuff. http://www.radioactiveenergy.com/product_ingredients.php Terrorist96 (talk) 02:47, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

Pepsi Max An Energy Drink?

Since when is Pepsi Max an energy drink? I would like to see some references supporting it. After all, Pepsi Max was around before energy drinks were the "in thing." Mr. C.C. (talk) 17:41, 10 February 2010 (UTC)

Non notable drinks?

Should this list include items that are not notable enough to have Wikipedia articles? Obviously we can't include every "energy drink" on this list, so where do we draw the line? Peacock (talk) 11:20, 26 October 2010 (UTC)

mg/L seems unrealistic measurment

I'd like to see a more reasonable measurement as I doubt anyone will drink a liter of coffee or Red Bull in one setting. Wouldn't it be more helpful if the serving size was 12 fl oz? 16 fl oz? --157.254.210.11 (talk) 00:35, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

No, imperial units are much more unrealistic.Zoef1234 (talk) 14:50, 6 October 2013 (UTC)

5-hour Energy caffeine data

The values of caffeine listed in the table for 5-hour Energy don't match the advertised value of caffeine, which, according to this page from the official website, is 200 mg. I'm not sure where the source for the present information is, so I'd appreciate if someone more familiar with the page's contents check this out. Prayerfortheworld (talk) 01:57, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

I would also ask somebody to fix it, as people may use it as assurence of acceptability. http://www.webmd.com/food-recipes/news/20121025/how-much-caffeine-energy-drink says 215. 85.178.15.36 (talk) 21:50, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

I have updated the values according to the website. Though the source of the previous data was pretty clearly stated: 'Does not list the actual amount of caffeine in the product but states "Contains about as much caffeine as a cup of coffee"'. --hydrox (talk) 22:18, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

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www.faketaxi.com

There is one entry that is only [[]] that used to be: www.faketaxi.com. I can hardly imagine that this was a energydrink but the values of the caffeine-content and such are given... Can someone help me on this? Oxygene7-13 (talk) 16:02, 16 April 2017 (UTC)