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User:Dolovis

to remove vandalism much more quickly and efficiently than by undoing it Dolovis (talk) 02:52, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Question 1: Why did you undo an admin doing just that here? You restored an unconstructive edit (WP:Wikihounding) by a WP:SPA sock of a banned editor (Porgers) and became somewhat confrontational about it here. Toddst1 (talk) 03:10, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Toddst1 could have left me a note on my talk page to state his concerns, but he instead deleted a message left for me on my talk page without comment or explanation. It is my talk page and I wish to read and, if I wish, retain the messages that are left there. On my talk page such choices are my decision. Dolovis (talk) 03:23, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Question 2: Why do you already have the rollbacker userbox on your user page? Toddst1 (talk) 03:15, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I did not even realize that I had rollbacker userbox there until you pointed it out. I think that I was trying to add an Autopatrolled rights user box and just made a mistake. I have removed it. Dolovis (talk) 03:29, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done 2 reasons:
  1. Most importantly,this user's statement at the top of his/her talk page that his/her wikistress is already very high. In such a case it is highly inappropriate to add additional priviliges.
  2. (and much less significantly) This user's reaction to rollback all being used in the case of a prolific socker - even after it was explained that the action was rolling back all actions of a sock of a banned user. Toddst1 (talk) 14:13, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(e/c) I was in the process of adding a third reason:

3. Dolovis has been repeatedly blocked for sockpuppetry and edit warring. Toddst1 (talk) 14:50, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Appeal. As an admin with a COI (see here) Toddst1 should not be the closing admin on this request. Dolovis (talk) 14:48, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I don't really know if it's my place to get involved in this discussion (but as a member of the sub community where Dolovis contributes most of his edits I do), but I feel as though Dolovis might not be suited for rollback rights. This user has a history of sock puppetry, constantly engages in unproductive disputes with other users (see WP:HOCKEY for the most frequent of these disputes), and I am not confident this user has the ability to discern between good and bad faith edits, one of the fundamental requirements of the rollback feature. The user is also highly contradictory when conducting edits, which again questions ability to discern between good and bad faith edits. This is certainly is not a personal attack, just a concern about a user that as a vivid history of confrontation, something that really shouldn't go hand-in-hand with the rollback tool. Allotting Dolovis the rollback feature may result in nonconstructive editing. At the same time, this user is certainly a positive member of the community, providing great edits, I just question the maturity level needed to go along with such a tool. The disagreement with the above admin is a prime example of the users confrontational demeanor. – Nurmsook! talk... 15:43, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done per commentary from Nurmsook and original decline. Pedro :  Chat  18:24, 1 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
One should investigate the allegations made against another, and not just rely on what is put in front of you. The claim of multiple accounts was demonstrated to be a false positive and the resulting block was reverted with the reviewing admin noting that my account had “a long history of constructive editing an no disruptive behavior”. I also received an apology from the accuser. The so called “edit war” was over 6 months ago, and was invoked upon me after I foolishly performed a double-revert (not 3RR) to protect my good-faith edits. I learn from my mistakes and moved forward. Dolovis (talk) 03:30, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I did investiagte, thanks. Indeed the very diff you supply [1] does not appear to me to indicate a false positive at all. "I promise that I will not use another account for editing on Wikipedia" implies that you have used other accounts. Perhaps in a few weeks when your wikistress has dipped and your faith in the community has been restored, but not now. Pedro :  Chat  07:18, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
That was not a confession - it was an assurance. If you read the entire thread (about two pages) then it will put it into context. Dolovis (talk) 12:40, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The whole point of the thread was to make sure you admitted you had done it and wouldn't do it again. So yes it is implying you did it. Most people don't for a second believe you didn't. All that happened was you were given a chance to not do it again. -DJSasso (talk) 12:46, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I had suspected, but until now it was not confirmed, that the whole point of the process was to extract a confession (reminds me of the Salem witch trials) for something that I was not guilty of. Well, read my thread again. It didn't work. I didn't do it, and I didn't confess, and I had thought your apology was sincere too. Dolovis (talk) 22:52, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
It was sincere until you went about parading it on your user page showing you clearly had no intention of letting the past go and working together. You are your own worst enemy. Lots of people have tried to work together with you in a friendly atmosphere and all you do is throw things in their face and yell at them. You aren't going to have an easy time of things if you keep spitting in peoples faces when they try to work with you. -DJSasso (talk) 23:14, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User:P199

I'm a regular/frequent editor, often reverting vandalism and other unconstructive edits. P 1 9 9 • TALK 02:43, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 Done - more rights can be found here if you want them :) Pedro :  Chat  07:13, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User:Inks.LWC

I've been a recent changes and new page patroller for a while now, and just started using Twinkle. I'd like to request being added the privilege of rollback as I think it would be helpful to me in undoing vandalism (and it's also required for me to use Huggle, which I have become interested in trying out as well). Inks.LWC (talk) 04:34, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Pedro :  Chat  07:10, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User:Qantasplanes

I want to revert vandilsm in SpongeBob SquarePants (season 8) a lot of IP Adress users have been adding 'unsourced' episodes. And also on many other articles. I've read all the guidelines. Thanks. Qantasplanes 07:14, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
 Not done. You have little to no recent experience fighting real vandalism here on Wikipedia. If you want the rollback tool, show us that you need it! Go to Special:RecentChanges and make 50 or so vandalism reverts, either with the undo function, or the userscript, Twinkle. One you have done that, come back and request the tool again. -FASTILY (TALK) 06:34, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You don't need Rollback to revert vandalism, the "undo" function can be used. Rollback is used for blatant vandalism, the insertion of unsourced material is not vandalism and is most probably made in good faith, considering reading up on the rollback feature and what it's used for and when to use it. Cheers, —James (Talk • Contribs) • 7:16pm • 09:16, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User:HXL49

Easier to use rollback to RV from watchlist or a vandalising user's contributions. If you ask why rollback was revoked in December 2010, it is because I was editing past my optimum sleeping hours (01:30 UTC−5), and at that time, I am grumpier. Slakr, the revoking administrator, stated in the user rights log "feel free to restore whenever". See this comment on his talk. I vow never to intentionally use rollback on established users, not even on my talk. —HXL's Roundtable and Record 13:07, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Slakr notified. Let's wait for a comment from him first. -FASTILY (TALK) 06:33, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
When HXL49 asked me back in January or whenever about restoring it, one of my concerns was, at the time, the user's continuing tendency to edit war. At cursory inspection, nothing has changed. I see multiple disputes he's been involved in as little as a few days ago ([2] and [3]), for example. Combined with the fact that I originally had to remove rollback because of its use in an edit war, I'm still hesitant to personally restore it without a better track record of dispute resolution instead of resorting to edit warring. Of course, I can be paranoid from time to time, so if another admin feels otherwise, they're free to restore it (as I mentioned in my log comment). --slakr\ talk / 15:38, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hence if something similar to the Taiwan dispute of last December arises, I will move to ask others to RV and some admins I know to block and brutalise the IPs on sight; moreover, since at that time I had only one month of rollback and did not know much about user talk policy, there should have been a stern warning instead of revoking immediately...also it was clear that that IP resorted only to launching accusations of vandalism at me and would not discuss anything, not even on his talk page. Regarding the ROC, I don't think the edit warring problem is as severe, because I did ask him to explain himself after awhile. And regarding the Incorporation of Tibet article, it is clear that the other user's edits in question had no basis in terms of consensus or MOS regarding ledes. Many users that have rollback will fall to edit-warring at times, too, so whether I edit war is not as relevant as the means I use to edit war. Finally, I have Twinkle and pop-ups as well, so don't forget this fact, as instead of what Benlisquare has recently done with Douglas the Comeback Kid, I would have simply copy-and-pasted edit summaries when RV-ing with TW. On a side note, that you took the time to dig into my contributions given the rate that I edit can be high...and Fastily, I think it was rather clear from the user talk diff I gave you that deference to Slakr is not necessary. —HXL's Roundtable and Record 16:08, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
WP:ROLLBACK is fairly explicit about edit warring: "...editors who edit war may lose the privilege regardless of the means used to edit war." We give warnings when people might not be aware of the policies of the site; however, rollbackers are expected—at the very least—to know the rollback guidelines before requesting rollbacker permissions. By requesting and gaining any permission set, you're essentially asserting to the rest of the community that you're aware of the policies and guidelines associated with that permission set and its use. In my opinion, your recent edit wars do not indicate that you are fully aware of the policies and guidelines associated with the rollbacker permission set. The best way to demonstrate otherwise is probably to stop edit warring. --slakr\ talk / 23:34, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
And when has that happened, i.e. revoking the privilege when the editor demonstrated no inappropriate usage of the tool? In the case of me, it is self-evident that I have been very consistent with explaining any of my RVs, and often even with edits that are not RVs. In light of this, not trusting me is equivalent to trusting that a medicine that has only 90% confidence it will work...in other words, extreme folly. It is high time to move beyond the ROC and Incorporation of Tibet disputes. —HXL's Roundtable and Record 23:52, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Again, if you want me, personally, to restore your rollbacker flag, then you have to stop edit warring. If you refuse to stop edit warring, then you'll have to wait for another admin who's willing to grant the flag to you. It's as simple as that. --slakr\ talk / 02:25, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done The admin who revoked HXL49's rollback is hesitant to return it. Bad sign. -FASTILY (TALK) 03:37, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
So be it, if you wish to be so lazy in your responses. I asked you not to defer to him and for you to use your own judgment. You have done neither, and have chosen only to be his slave. —HXL's Roundtable and Record 04:39, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Lol, well now I'm definitely not going to change my mind. Cheers, FASTILY (TALK) 04:45, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
WP:CIVIL --The Σ talkcontribs 04:42, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User:GaneshBhakt

Would like this permission so that I could fight vandalism quicker. I used Twinkle sometime ago, but found it very slow. GaneshBhakt (talk) 14:40, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 Done. Feezo (send a signal | watch the sky) 22:52, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User:A520

I have made a lot of vandalism reverts (344,most of them were vandalism reverts) and therefore I request rollback privileges to help me revert vandalism.Also,I need the rollback right to use igloo.

A520 | Talk me away!/sign it! 19:34, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

 Done -- DQ (t) (e) 22:26, 2 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User:Soxrock24

I am already a reviewer, and gained experience fighting vandalism for a month. Since reviewing has been removed, I want to continue fighting vandalism by being a rollbacker. SOXROX (talk) 00:41, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done. You have little to no recent experience fighting real vandalism here on Wikipedia. If you want the rollback tool, show us that you need it! Go to Special:RecentChanges and make 50 or so vandalism reverts, either with the undo function, or the userscript, Twinkle. One you have done that, come back and request the tool again. -FASTILY (TALK) 06:31, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

You didn't see all the review reverts I made from April to May? SOXROX (talk) 09:44, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Seriously, answer my question- Idon't understand your reasoning. SOXROX (talk) 16:22, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

(Non-administrator observation) - Fastily is correct, It takes seconds find clear vandalism on Special:RecentChanges, whether it be Removal of Content; Disruptive Editing or just blatant Vandalism. Try that, and you will see Vandalism, and fix it, and you should be guaranteed Rollback rights. -- MelbourneStar☆ (talk to me) 05:51, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the clarification! :) SOXROX (talk) 13:16, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User:SilentBobxy2

Protecting the Wiki from the scum of the Wiki-Universe. Seriously I handled reverts for vandal IP users back during the trial. I understand all to well the rules of uses for the rollback, undo and revert tools. Silent Bob (talk) 09:25, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(Non-administrator comment) I haven't seen any reverting or warnings issued in the past year or so, also your edit summary usage is relatively low and you seem to be using Twinkle to tag articles with issues en masse, while that's not a problem article issue tagging constitutes a majority of your edits, have you tried to fix those issues for yourself as it's not really achieving much if they're low-traffic articles and given the size of the backlogs. I also notice you've welcomed a large amount of users too (which accounts for over half your total edits), almost all of them being IPs, though I'm guilty of having done (past tense) both those things so I've been there myself. What advice I can give (from my own personal experience) is that you should monitor Special:RecentChanges, revert vandalism and warn the respective users, that's the best and only way to gain experience in this field. —James (Talk • Contribs) • 9:13pm • 11:13, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
  • Reply You asked allot of things and I'll try to answer them all. First, I have worked primarily from the recent changes pages... part in new article creations and other times in recent changes made by IPs. When I first started out on Wikipedia it was with the kindness campaign so I spent a large time then either inviting IPs to become registered users or welcoming new users. I moved into article review with focus on obvious adverts to propose for deletion... after that I became a reviewer and put my time into reverts for recent changes made by IPs in that trail program if you may remember. Most of my undos or reverts experience came from then... yet I also later moved to recent changes for new articles and made tags for them concerning if them applied to policy or not. I decided to join the Editorial Team and rank existing articles, but I moved a little into creation of articles and improvement of existing articles... Plus, I also got a little exp. in the Afd discussions... and plan to get more. If you are wondering if I can tag pages without using Twinkle then I say yes I can... I had to prove so before I became a reviewer, but I just find the tools much more quicker to get the job done. Oh, I know how to use the summary box its just that unless I know it might be an edit some would question most times I don't get off into much dialog... After all I named my account Silent Bob for a reason... Silent Bob (talk) 12:13, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Note. I have also helped fix a few of the articles that I have tagged by researching them a little and adding sources. However, this really doesn't have anything to do with rollback privs... Rollback is more so for the never ending line of IPs that come on Wikipedia added very obvious vandalisms to articles. For those of you who have worked on reviewing recent changes for IPs you know what I'm talking about. I've done ok with the other undo and revert tools but the rollback is suppose to be the quickest... so given the backlog like you said I find it best to have the quickest and best tools for the task at hand.Silent Bob (talk) 13:36, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Your contributions seem to be contrary to what you're saying. While welcoming users and tagging articles is fine, doing so en masse doesn't achieve much. Try and fix some of those articles, if you can find a reliable source on Google that contains information already included in the article, go and cite them :) There is an edit summary reminder you can enable in Special:Preferences. Nothing beats experience, if you can correctly identify vandalism and revert it and warn the respective users, you're sure to be granted the right! :) —James (Talk • Contribs) • 10:44am • 00:44, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done. You have little to no recent experience fighting real vandalism here on Wikipedia. If you want the rollback tool, show us that you need it! Go to Special:RecentChanges and make 50 or so vandalism reverts, either with the undo function, or the userscript, Twinkle. One you have done that, come back and request the tool again. -FASTILY (TALK) 05:18, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User:Oddbodz

I have been patrolling new pages, recent changes and random pages to help in the fight against vandalism. I have been doing this with Twinkle but I wish to be able to use Rollback tools such as Igloo and Huggle. I did have one 24 hour block for edit warring when I first started editing Wikipedia but I feel that I now understand the policies and I am now responsable enough to have this tool to fight against vandalism. Oddbodz (talk) 15:29, 3 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 Done -FASTILY (TALK)

User:Booyahhayoob

Throughout my time in Wikipedia, I've gotten really experienced with dealing with vandalism, as most of my time on WP is patrolling for it. Just recently, I've learned about the rollback feature, and I think I would be able to use it to continue my fight with vandalism. Booyahhayoob (talk) 05:56, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done. You have little to no recent experience fighting real vandalism here on Wikipedia. If you want the rollback tool, show us that you need it! Go to Special:RecentChanges and make 50 or so vandalism reverts, either with the undo function, or the userscript, Twinkle. One you have done that, come back and request the tool again. -FASTILY (TALK) 08:52, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User:WikiPuppies

Not exactly for standard rollback, but more for Huggle. Thanks in advance. WikiPuppies! (bark) 20:33, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 Done -FASTILY (TALK) 23:00, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks! I just noticed it on Recent Changes - one refresh it wasn't there, the next it was! WikiPuppies! (bark) 23:02, 4 June 2011 (UTC) (PS: Sorry if I'm overreacting! :))[reply]

User:Rainbow Dash

I've been around for seven months now, and I have had some experience from CSD and non-stop vandalism on the My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic page. I shall continue to fight vandalism in the near future, and hopefully this request will make my fight much easier. Rainbow Dash 21:58, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Also, needed to use igloo. Rainbow Dash 21:59, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Template:Editor noteI see no warnings for any of your reverts. Mlpearc powwow 22:37, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 Done Per the last few months of good work and on the condition that you start leave warning messages to vandals. -FASTILY (TALK) 23:04, 4 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User:Joseph Solis in Australia

I'm a regular/frequent editor for five years, reverting vandalism and other unconstructive edits sometimes, I need a Rollback to make me easier to fight vandalism. Joseph Solis in Australia (talk) 03:25, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done. You have little to no recent experience fighting real vandalism here on Wikipedia. If you want the rollback tool, show us that you need it! Go to Special:RecentChanges and make 50 or so vandalism reverts, either with the undo function, or the userscript, Twinkle. One you have done that, come back and request the tool again. -FASTILY (TALK) 03:38, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User:Stickulus

To remove excess vandalism on pages that have problems with vandalism. On alot since not working and able to spend lots of time reviewing vandalised articles and determining if it really is vandalism. Can Delete Unreferenced paragraphs, snetences, or articles with ease. Be Able to delete copyrighted pictures easier. Stickulus (talk) 11:01, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Template:Editor noteI see only one revert and that is on yourself. It is highly unlikely that your request will be granted until you have some vandal fighting to show the Admin's that you can recognize vandalism from good faith edits. I suggest monitoring Special:RecentChanges and log some reverts, maybe using Twinkle for a few weeks, then come back and request the bit again. Mlpearc powwow 12:25, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done due to lack of experience in fighting vandalism, I'm sorry; I entirely agree with Mlpearc, here. Please, familiarise yourself with WP:RCP, using tools such as WP:LUPIN or WP:TWINKLE, before rerequesting this flag. Cheers. Salvio Let's talk about it! 13:21, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User:RDN1F

I am requesting Rollback rights, because I think I have proved I can revert vandalism, and I would like to use Huggle also. RDN1F (don't) (talk) (to) (me) (before) (my) (coffee) (talk) 16:24, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Template:Editor note Your off to a good start, Admins might request that you have some more vandal edits under your belt before granting your request. I see your using Twinkle a very good tool (I prefer Twinkle to Rollback any day :P). One thing I would suggest you make a habit is leaving edit summaries. Keep up the good work, Cheers. Mlpearc powwow 17:24, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done. You have little to no recent experience fighting real vandalism here on Wikipedia. If you want the rollback tool, show us that you need it! Go to Special:RecentChanges and make 50 or so vandalism reverts, either with the undo function, or the userscript, Twinkle. One you have done that, come back and request the tool again. -FASTILY (TALK) 21:27, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User:Killerserv

Would like to use Huggle to revert vandalism KillerservTalk 17:33, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
(Non-administrator comment) User has made 18 edits in 2011. --The Σ talkcontribs 18:49, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done. You have little to no recent experience fighting real vandalism here on Wikipedia. If you want the rollback tool, show us that you need it! Go to Special:RecentChanges and make 50 or so vandalism reverts, either with the undo function, or the userscript, Twinkle. One you have done that, come back and request the tool again. -FASTILY (TALK) 21:28, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Fastily, just curious. Is that a subst'able template of some sort? --The Σ talkcontribs 22:03, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Nope, but that is a good idea. -FASTILY (TALK) 22:44, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User:Topperfalkon

Have been using Twinkle for a while now. Would like rollback to use Huggle. I've had small periods of inactivity recently, largely due to work and wanting to spend time doing other stuff, but looking to get back into recent change patrolling. I've had a minor edit dispute on Talk:Ed Miliband recently that was a continuation of a larger dispute at the end of last year, but I don't see any scope for questionable edits as it has remained contained within the talkpages thus far. Topperfalkon (talk) 20:19, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 Done -FASTILY (TALK) 21:29, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User:Tommyjb

I have been recent-change patrolling for a while, and rollback would be very handy for some of the reverts I'm making. —Tommyjb Talk! (23:10, 5 June 2011)
 Done -FASTILY (TALK) 23:26, 5 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User:පසිඳු කාවින්ද

I would like to revert edits by banned users who are not allowed to edit. Pasindu Kavinda  Talk 12:49, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done Sorry but you don't have any real experience of reversion / vandal fighting. I suggest you use WP:UNDO for now. Pedro :  Chat  12:57, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

User:Furries

I've been actively reverting vandalism using Twinkle for awhile now, and feel that I'd be more productive in antivandalism activities if I was granted rollback, so I can use tools such as Huggle for antivandalism. I'm no stranger to the Rollback tool, I've had it on a Wikia wiki since last April, which I'm now an administrator on. Furries (Talk) 15:37, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Template:Editor note Your edit count is relatively low but, looking through your reverts it's clear you know the difference between good faith edits and vandalism. Keep up the good work. Mlpearc powwow 16:27, 7 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]
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