Talk:Algernon Sidney

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=only some minor changes, mainly for readability. Stevewk 21:32, 21 September 2006 (UTC)


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Updated class assessment from stub to start. Xn4 16:17, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

New file File:Algernon Sidney by Justus van Egmont.jpg[edit]

Algernon Sidney by Justus van Egmont.jpg

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The result of the move request was page renamedharej (talk) (cool!) 00:05, 9 July 2009 (UTC)



Algernon SydneyAlgernon Sidney — The Oxford Dictionary of National Biography and the biographies of Sidney printed by the Cambridge University Press and the Princeton University Press (amongst others) used an 'i' instead of a 'y' in Algernon's second name. It is the preferred spelling used by almost everyone who writes on Sidney. User:Johnbull 19:50, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

  • Support. A vast majority of souces use "Sidney". Jafeluv (talk) 12:53, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
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Shouldn't this article mention Sidney's most famous quote?[edit]

Shouldn't this article mention Sidney's most famous quote? Algernon Sidney is credited with the phrase "The Lord helps those who helps themselves" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.67.239.75 (talk) 02:40, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

This is an apparent Christianised adaptation of the quotation by the ancient Greek writer Aesop: "The gods help those who help themselves".Cloptonson (talk) 05:44, 8 May 2014 (UTC)

Involved in 'plotting'?[edit]

Where is the evidence for this please? It directly contradicts both Maurice Ashley and John "J.H." Plumb, who both state that he was innocent of any active plotting. His arraignment following the discovery of the Rye House Plot was for papers found in his desk which outlined and ideal Commonwealth Republic in the abstract ideal rather than as an active plotter with Shaftesbury. Implicated, yes. Involved, NO - case unproven.Jatrius (talk) 11:43, 29 March 2011 (UTC)

"He was Lusy Walter's lover...*[edit]

There is NO valid evidence for a such a statement and most authors of the last two centuries (Dasent, Scott, Arthur, Lamford, Gilbert, etc.) have argued that it was NOT true. Their basis was that at the time claimed Algernon was serving with Cromwell's Army of Saints in Ireland and unavailable to be buying, selling, or in any way contracting or contacting anyone not in Ireland [source:Private Life of Charles II by A.I. Dasent,(1927)p.38 note 1]. Further, Lucy Walter was 8 years old when she first moved to London (which is when the slander said the laison took place)according to House of Lords' Records of May 26,1641 and the 1640 Notebook of St. Martin-in-the Fields Church Records in London. The assertion that it was true originated with Macpherson's writtings whose source, verbal from James II, has long been recognized as a hoax like his Ossian hoax. I quit reading the article after that so I know of no other problems with the text. Nan Peacocke — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.90.215.175 (talk) 00:59, 2 March 2013 (UTC)

Second Period as MP - Omissions[edit]

It is mentioned Sidney, earlier in Long Parliament MP for Cardiff, was 'taking up his seat in the Commons' in 1659. The article on Cardiff constituency does not mention him as MP during the late Commonwealth and Restoration years, so it must have been for another seat. Where was the constituency and how long did he represent it?Cloptonson (talk) 13:40, 8 September 2013 (UTC)