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I think this article should be moved to the Kara-Khitai empire, or similar variants. Their administration was primarily imperial, mixed with some Central Asian practices. Khanate doesn't really describe the empire that well--Confuzion 23:47, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
- I would find Western Liao preferable -- and I don't believe doing so would be Sinocentric. The reason is that there is no real evidence that the state ever referred to itself as Kara-Khitan. --Nlu (talk) 02:47, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
- The term Kara-Khitai is likely a post-historical invention, at least in reference to the specific state. The state never referred to itself as Kara-Khitai or Kara-Khitan, as recorded in any official documents from contemporary sources. The term Kara-Khitai came into popular use after the Mongol conquest, and was probably later adopted by Muslims to differentiate it from Khitai/Khitay, since the meaning of Khitai/Khitay had shifted over time to mean northern China. There is only one reference to the term "Kara Khitai" in any historical documents. The document, discovered by archaeologists, is attributed to the Liao Dynasty and is written in the Khitan small script. It's unclear if Kara Khitai was used to refer to the state or to the people.
- Calling the state a Khanate is incorrect for many reasons, so moving it to anything else would be an improvement. Since the Khitan of Western Liao did not adopt Islam, the modern Central Asian states have tended to ignore their history; most research on their history have been conducted by the Chinese, thus the inevitable Western backlash against Sino-centrism when it comes to such topics. I agree that Western Liao is the clearest term for naming this state, since they were initially known as the Western Liao (from the Chinese), the Dashi (from the Jurchens) or Khitay/Khitai (from the Persians/Arabs). For whatever reasons, Chinese historians had traditionally considered the state to be a proper Chinese state, probably due to its adoption of Confucianism in government, among other things.--Confuzion 04:01, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
- It is called Kara-Kitad in the Secret History of the Mongols. So it's no invention. Where is the evidence that they called themselves "Western Liao"? The ruler of Kara-Kitai was called had the title of Gur-khan, meaning Khan of a great power. Perhaps this is an equivalent to an emperor. Gantuya eng 09:07, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
The term "Kara" is a Turkish word meaning "black", as in Kara Kum Desert (literally Black Sand). Historically, Kara has been used to denote Turkic People who are not from the ruling class. The term Kara might have been added later to describe Khitans under Turkic or Uighur rule. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.104.22.168 (talk) 16:51, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
- Xara in daur language means black, Khar in mongolian means black, Qara in kyrgyz means black.--22.214.171.124 (talk) 02:00, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
Qara-Khitan Khanate ?
- That would be why I moved it back. siafu (talk) 17:27, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
Title as Emperor of China
Put primary sources into wikisource
Chinese was the dominant language both administratively and as the language with the most native speakers in the Kara Khitan
Chinese language was dominant in both areas.
The Kara-Khitans also reintroduced the Chinese system of Imperial government, since China was still held in respect and esteem in the region among even the Muslim population, and the Kara-Khitans used Chinese as their main official language.
Title as Emperor of China