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Unity of the Crown[edit]

<<as until the passage of the Royal and Parliamentary Titles Act 1927 British constitutional law held that there was a single individisble monarchy with the dominions treated as subsets of the United Kingdom. After 1927, and particularly after the Statute of Westminster, 1931 the crowns of the various dominions were conidered as separate entities though with a shared throne.>>

The idea that there is one Crown still applies. The title used by the monarch may be styled differently in different Commonwealth Realms, it still is one Crown, as testified by the common elements the titles in all Commonwealth Realms have: "King / Queen of ....... and all his / her other Realms and territories". Implying that the Queen is Queen of all her Realms equally, not seperately as her title includes all.I've made some adjustments stressing that.Gerard von Hebel 20:07, 22 July 2006 (UTC)[reply]

While there is good material in this article, it may be more appropriately re-named 'The Queen of South Africa'. Important changes occurred in relation to 'unity of the crown' following the death of King George VI in Feb 1952. Gerard von Hebel above seems to think that those changes did not affact the unity of the crown. That is a technicality which may never be accurately answered. But if it did introduce separate crowns, then South Africa only had its own personal monarch during the reign of Queen Elizabeth II from 1952 until 1961 when South Africa became a republic. The title 'King of South Africa' tends to cause people to ask 'who was he?' since it is a title that was never used when South Africa still had the British monarch as head of state. David Tombe (talk) 16:57, 19 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move[edit]

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The result of the move request was moved. Jubilee♫clipman 22:00, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

King of South Africa → Monarchy of South Africa — To be consistant with other Commonwealth monarchy articles, such as Monarchy of New Zealand and Monarchy of Jamaica. The title "King of South Africa" never really existed, as this article explains, and only Elizabeth II was styled "of South Africa". YeshuaDavid • Talk • 19:45, 1 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support - came to this via the Move requests page; the move seems very justified. 220.239.163.61 (talk) 11:11, 2 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Support. as per YeshuaDavid. john k (talk) 15:38, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Consensus for move: have move page Jubilee♫clipman 22:00, 7 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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Details in list of monarchs[edit]

I have changed the last column in the list of monarchs from "heir" to "succession right". This is consistent with List of British monarchs and others, and solved the somewhat anomalous mention of Prince Charles, who never was — and presumably never will be — monarch of South Africa. Jellyman (talk) 09:24, 26 January 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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