Talk:Neo-Byzantine architecture in the Russian Empire

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From the deleted userspace sandbox talk[edit]

You put the article of NeoByzantine Architecture on your user page?

  • yes, it needs a couple of weeks before release. NVO (talk) 01:22, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
Oh I see, well then well done. <---- (Naive)
Done. It's in the mainspace as Neo-Byzantine architecture in the Russian Empire NVO (talk) 10:13, 12 September 2008 (UTC)

Neo-Byzantine versus Russo-Byzantine[edit]

Russo-Byzantine redirects to this page, yet the lead states replacing the Russo-Byzantine style of Konstantin Thon. Can someone explain my confusion? --Kuban Cossack (По-балакаем?) 14:29, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

Well, until yesterday, Russo-Byzantine redirected to Konstantin Thon. A user then changed it. I have corrected that. Cheers, Constantine 14:43, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
The term "Russo-Byzantine" was used in 1830s-1840s specifically to describe the style of Thon (and some late works of Stasov Sr. that preceded Thon). Thon's art has little common with true Byzantine prototypes, but nevertheless the name persisted and was clearly set aside from "true Byzantine". Then there was Crimean war, construction halted for a decade, and at the same time the "real" neo-Byzantine architecture picked up (initially on paper, but with a substantial impact). By the end of 1860s the label of "Byzantine style" was disassociated from Thon's art and instead became a name for neo-Byzantine revival; the name "Russo-Byzantine" fell out of use. Domestic 20th century sources (i.e. восьмитомник Власова [1]) use the term Russo-Byzantine in its original sense, however, it has little use outside of professional literature (replaced by pseudo-russian in popular sources). NVO (talk) 02:43, 20 September 2008 (UTC)

Moving the list out[edit]

I would strongly suggest to move the two tables listing the churches to a separate article like List of neo-Byzantine churches in the Russian Empire. The tables make a=the article too big & too hard to edit and navigate. Renata (talk) 16:43, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

There is one objection. The table is there to illustrate a paragraph of destruction and preservation (and some backup re. geography claims). It is a means to bypass OR - instead of calculating bogus percentages, let the readers decide on their own. Once the list is moved elsewhere, the paragraph on destruction should either cite OR numbers (unacceptable) or be removed at all... then the list itself becomes unnecessary. Deletion? probably, but not a move. NVO (talk) 17:07, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
I see no big problem there. Instead of saying "see table below" say "see this article." In both cases the reader would have to mouse-click to see the content: either the "show" link as it is now or the separate article link as proposed. Definitely do not delete -- I think it is a valuable collection of information. Renata (talk) 06:11, 27 September 2008 (UTC)