Talk:Shale gas

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Overlapping with Hydraulic fracturing article[edit]

There seems to be some overlapping with the the Hydraulic fracturing article, e.g. concerning the environmental sections. For example, the earthquakes sections probably is related to the specific method called hydraulic fracturing and not the shale gas as a type of natural gas. It would be probably necessary to look environmental sections in this article and in the hydraulic fracturing article in complex and decide, which information suits better in which article to avoid unnecessary duplication and mixing the subjects. Beagel (talk) 19:39, 26 August 2012 (UTC) Really agree with these comments.Iztwoz (talk) 18:38, 18 January 2013 (UTC)

Because "hydraulic fracturing" has become a sort of popular shorthand for environmental concerns associated with unconventional oil and gas, I suggest that the environmental section go to Environmental impact of hydraulic fracturing, or to Environmental impact of hydraulic fracturing in the United States, as appropriate. Plazak (talk) 12:58, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
As there is still a significant overlapping with Environmental impact of hydraulic fracturing, I propose to replace the current environmental section here with a summary of that article to harmonize the information in different articles. This was done recently for the Hydraulic fracturing article. Of course, information about environmental imapcts which are not caused by hydraulic fracturing but which is notwithstanding this relevant to the shale gas production and usage, should be added to that summary here. Beagel (talk) 20:22, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Country Bias[edit]

Please remove the USA bias preferably), or move the article to the USA country page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.202.155.226 (talk) 07:28, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

Agree. The US-specific stuff should be moved. Plazak (talk) 13:08, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Shale gas by country- recommended changes[edit]

This is a hot topic, and should be free of unsubstantiated statements. Within the table (first table on page), suggest changing from estimated recoverable to the correct wording per EIA, "technically recoverable" which is explained in the reference EIA report. In this table I suggest deletion of gas reserves, as it is not part of the EIA report, may not be current and does not necessarily include reserves from gas shale projects within the country. Some countries may not be booking gas shale reserves, only resource estimates. Also, "date of information" should be deleted. A statement could be added that the EIA report was issued in July 2013. We don't know how old the EIA info is. Dblord (talk) 01:42, 19 October 2013 (UTC)

I changed to "technically recoverable" and to "date of report", as you suggested. But I'm confused about your objections to List of countries by natural gas proven reserves, the source for the "Proven natural gas reserves" column, so didn't change those. --Pete Tillman (talk) 07:21, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

Advocacy tag still needed?[edit]

I've corrected or toned down the worst NPOV vios (that I saw), and added some balancing information. Article now seems reasonably balanced, imo. Note that I'm a geologist -- not an oil guy, but sympathetic to the industry. So editors with other viewpoints should check too. Do we still need the tag? You might ID what you see as problematic stuff.

Article is definitely a shining star compared to, forex, Hydraulic fracturing <G>. Now there's a can of worms.... --Pete Tillman (talk) 06:48, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

The entire section The relative impacts of natural gas and coal is framed in a debating style, suggesting that environmentalists prefer coal mining to shale oil. That’s entirely inappropriate for an encyclopaedia and smells like advocacy to me. The tag is definitely still required! ☸ Moilleadóir 03:47, 10 June 2014 (UTC)

Definitely. It is a heavily biased article. Unbelievable. It reads like someone from the industry has written it and will not accept any criticism. I haven't read such a biased article in a while on Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.77.254.204 (talk) 12:39, 12 August 2014 (UTC)


Definitely still needed. Can someone add the "citation needed" and "unclear" on the following sentence in the introduction "Human and public health will both benefit from shale gas displacing coal burning.". It seems biased, suffers from the problem Moilleadóir pointed out and simply doesn't make sense. Liberivore (talk) 09:02, 13 November 2014 (UTC)