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So how does this episode affect continuity? Is Bart still at the Catholic school or wil he go back to Springfield Elementary? And are Bart and Homer still Catholic? Sonic Mew | talk to me 18:43, 16 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

In case you don't know, the Simpsons always go back to normal afterwards, pretty much.- JustPhil 11:18, 19 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

We didn't see them go back to normal, though, which we normally do, (however cheaply), and this episode references the fact that Lisa is still a Buddhist. Sonic Mew | talk to me 12:11, 19 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

I'm sure Bart will be at Springfield Elementary in an up-coming episode. They usually do go back to normal. For instance, in "All's Fair in Oven War", the kitchen is upgraded and in the next episode, it's the way it always was.- JustPhil 21:36, 19 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Another interesting thing I just realized: it says that there is supposedly a deleted scene where Bart gives the Pope a wedgie. In "Treehouse of Horror XIV", Bart does that while time is frozen.- JustPhil 21:45, 19 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Well, we'll see soon, anyway. Though, isn't most of the plot of All's Fair in Oven War two years in the future? Sonic Mew | talk to me 16:13, 20 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Oh yes, that's in the Treehouse of Horror episode where Bart and Milhouse stop time. We got the Pope wedgie here on Sky in the UK! Perks 20:14, 31 October 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Oh come on Perks, we're only four episodes behind them.

I don't buy the Pope/wedgie speculation - it's hard to imagine that such a scene was cut, as it wouldn't have fitted anywhere in the story of this episode. If there was a cut, it would have been a massive one and very noticeable. I think it's just got confused with 'TreeHouse of Horror XIV'. (Also, what are the chances they'd have used such a specific gag twice in one season) Mauls 15:45, 6 November 2005 (UTC)[reply]

Remember Treehouse of Horror XIV aired in November 2003, 18 months before John Paul II died--M Johnson (talk • contribs) 07:15, 14 April 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Quotes section[edit]

I've taken the liberty of eliminating all redirects from the redirects except those that explain either pop-culture/current-events allusions or Simpsons neologisms. People who read this page probably don't want to find more about queens in the middle of reading a quote. --zenohockey 00:18, 10 January 2006 (UTC) NO PRAISING THE CODEMENTS![reply]

Commander Cuckoo Bananas[edit]

The name "Commander Cuckoo Bananas" is not directly referring to President Bush. Wikipedia States: (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piped_link)

Do not use piped links to create "easter egg links", that require the reader to follow them before understanding what's going on. For example, do not write this:

   [...] and by mid-century the puns and sexual humor were (with only a few exceptions) back in to stay.

The readers will not know Thomas Bowdler is being spoken of until they select the link — in a print version, there is no link to select, and the information is lost. Instead, reference the article explicitly:

   [...] and by mid-century the puns and sexual humor were (with only a few exceptions, see Thomas Bowdler) back in to stay.

Please do not change Commander Cuckoo Bananas to George W. Bush Tvaughn05 05:10, 12 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I've added "[i.e., President George W. Bush]" after that phrase. --zenohockey 01:08, 13 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I'm not completely sure that we should keep that there, because, it is not directly refering to him, and most people don't really give a care about George W. Bush while reading about the Simpsons.
Tvaughn05 01:07, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Of course it's referring to him! Who else would it be? And while you're right that most people probably don't care, there is a whole book on The Simpsons' anti-establishment streak (Leaving Springfield), and people interested in that aspect may find it helpful to have this reference explicitly pointed out. --zenohockey 05:59, 14 January 2006 (UTC)[reply]

I put that link up when I first created the quote section. I knew right away that Homer was taking about Bush. I liked the little Easter Egg link (which I am starting to think that that is not allowed). I think we should have the link or we should not have the reference at all. "...possible with Commander Coo-Coo Bananas (presumably George W. Bush) in charge!" just slows down the quote.- JustPhil 11:11, 12 June 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Klezmer Song[edit]

Bart sings a klezmer song in the car. Does anyone know the title of the song?

It's a version of Havah Negilah. 71.77.12.236 23:06, 2 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Wars[edit]

Ok before starting a edit war may I know why some punk have deleted the section with the quotes and added a external link with those? most of the episode have a quote section on the page, a link to wikiquote and a link to the simpsons capsule, which is the only link useful that every page with a episode should have.--ometzit<col> 20:39, 8 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bart bible image[edit]

I'm sure of this because the image was on a bop bag I had as a kid. That whole scene is various jokes about Bart's early days (see the Bartman costumes and his followers quoting his old catchphrases)--HellCat86 19:59, 16 February 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Willard[edit]

Anyone else think that the part with Willie and the rats was a reference to Willard? Never seen it, but they both seem to have a similar theme of "tortured social misfit uses rats to wreak his vengeance upon those who were cruel to him," might be worth a mention in the Cultural References section. 72.25.33.197 06:25, 28 June 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Song[edit]

Which song is playing during the appearance of "Springfield Shopper" with a headline "LOCAL FATHER, SON MAY SWITCH RELIGIONS", Homer and Bart putting out a candles, with Father Sean going to "The Frying Ditchman", shotting from the Thompson submachine gun, playing Bingo? Artmuz 05:13, 19 July 2007 (UTC)[reply]

This song is in fact "Maple Leaf Rag" by Scott Joplin —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.214.167.202 (talk) 21:09, 22 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Bart as cooper[edit]

It is mentioned 3 times in the first paragraph that Bart hates his role in the medieval festival. This is redundant. Kwyjibear (talk) 22:01, 25 September 2008 (UTC)[reply]

A bit redundant, too. I've made some slight edits to take care of it. The Mink Ermine Fox (talk) 11:34, 3 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Reception/Critism[edit]

Perhaps some negative reviews can be located and quoted to balance the Reception section of the article? I know I can't be quoted in the article, but..... as well the positive central message of the episode that there shouldn't be fighting amongst Catholics and Protestants, the episode contains a number of racist perceptions of the Irish [disguised by references to Catholicism in general] and an overall ignorance towards the underlying historical causes of the "foolish" feud between Catholics and Protestants [British colonalism/Cromwellian plantations etc.] —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.125.64.32 (talk) 17:38, 11 May 2009 (UTC)[reply]

L'Osservatore Romano[edit]

telegraph.co.uk featured an article yesterday about L'Osservatore Romano praising the episode. I added a tiny paragraph about it, anyone who can actually read the original paper could probably expand on it. Hazlzz (talk) 21:21, 18 October 2010 (UTC)[reply]