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Untitled[edit]

I have added a whole lot of content, hoefully will add more soon, currently translating the letter from tuka to shivaji

--Gd 08:51, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)


To 67.106.157.231: I only listed this on speedy deletion candidates due to it lacking any content at the time. When editing an article, you can use the preview button to see how your edits are going, rather than saving it while it has no content. If you'd first saved it in its current state with some content I wouldn't have touched it, I agree it's a valid article. Shane King 14:35, Oct 28, 2004 (UTC)

We need some references for this article. Gd, could you provide some? Thanks. ≈ jossi ≈ t@ 17:42, 31 August 2006 (UTC)

Full Name[edit]

His full name was Tukaram Bolhoba More but I am not sure of the middle name so I haven't added it.--59.95.7.183 (talk) 13:50, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

Birth and Death[edit]

His birthyear is dispued and is given as 1490, 1520 or 1530 but the calender is not mentioned so they can be Gregorian or 'Shaka' commanly used in Maharashtra. Also his death year is given as 1571 and 1572 with same problem in Tukaram Mahrajanchi Sartha Gatha edited by S. K. Neurgawakar, Pracharya Dandekar Dharmik & sanakritic vangamaya Publications, Pune.--59.95.7.183 (talk) 14:18, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Hinduism reassessment[edit]

Due to the recent creation of class C and introduction of 6-clause B-criteria, i am checking this artcle for the B-criteria:

  • The article is suitably referenced, with inline citations where necessary.
Inline citations missing.
  • The article reasonably covers the topic, and does not contain obvious omissions or inaccuracies.
Life story, abhangas not covered.
  • The article has a defined structure, including a lead section and all appropriate sections of content.
  • The article is reasonably well written.
  • The article contains supporting materials, such as an infobox, images, or diagrams, where appropriate.
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  • The article presents its content in an appropriately accessible way.

RESULT: C-class Redtigerxyz (talk) 13:17, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Seeing the current form, reassessed as start again.--Redtigerxyz Talk 06:47, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

Details of iniitation[edit]

Current section;

==Religious life and poetry==

Tukaram was a devotee of Lord Vittala (or Vithobā) --an incarnation of Lord Krishna, who in turn, considered to be an incarnation of Lord Vishnu-- in Hinduism.

Tukaram is considered as the climactic point of the so-called Bhāgawat Hindu tradition, which is thought to have begun in Maharashtra with Nāmdev. Dnyāneshwar, Nāmdev, Janābai, Eknāth, and Tukaram are revered especially in the wārakari (वारकरी) sect in Maharashtra. He has recived guru-mantra containing names of Krishna, Rama and Hari. This was at the hands or by the media of a dream, of one Babaji Chaitanya — a possible indication that Tukaram had some connexion with prominent saint Chaitanya,[1] and Gaudiya Vaishnavas believe that he was initiated and was a disciple of Chaitanya.[2] Whatever information about the lives of the above saints of Maharashtra comes mostly from the works Bhakti-Wijay and Bhakti-Leelāmrut of Mahipati. Mahipati was born 65 years after the death of Tukaram, (Tukaram having died 50 years, 300 years, and 353 years after the deaths of Ekanath, Namdev, and Dnyaneshwar, respectively.) Thus, Mahipati undoubtedly based his life sketches of all above "sants" primarily on hearsays.

Tukaram's public relgious discourses ("कीर्तने") used to be mixed, by tradition, with poetry, which included some of his own compositions. His discourses focussed on day-to-day behavior of human beings, and he emphasized that the true expression of religion was in a person's love for his fellow human beings rather than in ritualistic observance of religious orthodoxy, including mechanical study of the Vedās. His teachings encompassed a wide array of issues, including the importance of the ecosystem. Tukaram worked for his society's enlightenment in the "warakari" tradition, which emphasizes community service and musical group worship.

Like Namdev, Janabai, and Eknath, Tukaram wrote in Marathi a large number of devotional poems identified in Marathi as abhang (अभंग). A collection of 4,500 abhang known as the Gāthā is attributed to Tukaram. Mantra Geetā, a Marathi translation in abhang form of the Sanskrit Bhagavad Geetā, is also attributed to him. It is an interpretation of Geeta from a Bhakti (भक्ती) --devotional-- perspective.

does not give much details on his initiation, I have read it was in the dream or in the vision. Any other versions are welcome. Wikidās ॐ 21:06, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

There much more to write on Tukaram: legends of his death (he did not die according to legend, but went to heaven with his physical body on back of Garuda), his abhangs, legends about the Brahmins ordering him to submerge all his books and they mysteriously floating up after a few books.--Redtigerxyz (talk) 13:37, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

NPOV Discussion[edit]

Several sections in the page (notably "Contribution To The Bhakti Movement" and "Films on Tukaram") are quite subjective in their wording. Talking about absolute evils of the way a society is structured or passing judgement on the quality of movies doesn't seem appropriate. 76.219.254.230 (talk) 04:37, 7 July 2014 (UTC)

I have massively pruned the films section, which was almost entirely fancruft etc. - Sitush (talk) 12:28, 13 September 2014 (UTC)