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Night Time Shot of the Capitol[edit]

I prefer that shot to the current shot. Who else has an opinion on this? RedFowl —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.91.0.43 (talk) 22:10, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

It's blurry as noted. There are many nighttime shots which are readily available that are useable. This is not one of them. Tedickey (talk) 22:15, 7 April 2010 (UTC)

the state capital is the best i can say so many things about it! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.48.44.13 (talk) 23:22, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

the state capital is awsome it is was the laws are made and other stuff but anyway it it the best place you can go!!!!!!!!!!:-) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.48.44.13 (talk) 23:24, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

I think the nightime shot of the Capitol is pretty good. When I looked the the shot with the caption "At night," it seemed pretty appealing to me with the dusk in the background. Samb338 (talk) 04:04, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

I think you are talking about the new night shot. They all (including File:US Capitol west side.JPG and File:US Capitol east side.JPG) are new, recently promoted FPs at Commons. JKadavoor Jee 04:49, 17 October 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I am talking about the new night shot. Thanks. Samb338 (talk) 20:08, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

New Photo[edit]

I have uploaded a new photo to the Commons of the Capitol; feel free to use it.

U.S. Capitol Building

Redirect: The Capitol[edit]

Hi there. Just wondering if anyone with a more thorough knowledge of the history of this page than I thinks that the redirect "The Capitol", which currently leads to this article, ought to do so, or if a redirect to the disambiguation page Capitol makes more sense.

As I see this talk page isn't very active, I'll be making the change myself in the next few days if anyone doesn't object. Thanks! Evanh2008 (talk) (contribs) 09:12, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

Prohibided Items[edit]

I removed the prohibited items list from the Security section because the reference pointed to a PDF that doesn't exist anymore and the list doesn't match what is currently listed on the US Capitol website. Furthermore lists like this are dubious because there are always exceptions, the passage read:

The Capitol bans weapons, battery operated devices (though cameras and cellular phones are allowed), recording devices, large bags, cans, bottles, creams, perfumes, strollers, food, beverages and knives in the Capitol Visitor Center.

Capitol Police carry weapons, most watches are battery operated, every member of the press has a recording device, members and staff eat, drink, and carry large bags with cosmetics in the building. Limiting the list to the Visitor Center is also a POV aimed at tourists not encyclopediodic readers.--Yanofsky (talk) 03:47, 11 December 2012 (UTC)

"Better" picture??[edit]

User:Jkadavoor recently did an overhaul of the pictures in this article. For the main picture, I actually think I liked the old one better. Like, significantly better. It's brighter, more detailed. Here is the diff: [1]

I dunno, it's sorta lame to split hairs over this. If I don't hear anything in a couple of days, I might be WP:BOLD and revert. --24.93.29.60 (talk) 16:35, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Feel free to revert; if you think so. IMHO, the picture I replaced is very overexposed; no details on white parts. The picture I added is a recent FP in Commons. JKadavoor Jee 16:51, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

"Current" picture[edit]

I had today replaced the photo (lead) that is on the page with one of what the building looks like, and will look like for the next 3 years of renovation. I, as a visitor had looked at THIS wiki and expected the capitol that is shown in the photo, but due to construction no one will see that for the next 3 years, according to the Capitol Police. I propose that we use the photo that shows the building, with the construction assembly in place and, in 2017, when the construction is over, I am sure someone will have a nice pic to post in place of the one taken today.

United States Capitol November 11, 2014

talk→ WPPilot  02:45, 12 November 2014 (UTC)

First, you gave no explanation for the replacement, which is partly why I reverted, especially when you unilaterally change the primary, infobox image. Secondly, the picture without the restoration scaffolding in place is a better picture (a Featured Picture, at least on some Wikipedias; the photo with scaffolding has unsightly dark shadows in front, as well as the scaffolding being ugly, and temporary). The capitol will look the same after restoration as before, so the current photo is appropriate for how the building is supposed to look. I have nothing against having the scaffolding photo illustrating a section on the current restoration (I didn't see anything on it, but only gave the article a cursory glance). Dhtwiki (talk) 06:04, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
Sorry about the lack of explanation, but from the perspective of Wiki being a resource, I looked at the page, before coming to DC and expected the building in the photo. I was really kind of setback, once I saw it, under construction and realized, after talking to the Capitol police this is how it will look, for the next 3 years. Any regular person, doing the same thing would review Wiki and be disappointed when upon arrival the dome is covered in construction equipment under renovation. Wikipedia is not the place for "how the building is supposed to look", but it is a encyclopedia that provides real, factual info and NO WHERE is it mentioned that the dome, is covered in scaffolding. Factually speaking the restoration process will result in a dome that will according to the people I spoke to yesterday "BETTER" then what it used to look like, so why keep a image, as lead that is deceptive and incorrect? I have many featured images as well, but if one of them is replaced, by a image that is correct, that is how is goes and the public is properly informed, rather then disappointed, upon arrival. talk→ WPPilot  14:24, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
United States Capitol building under renovation November 2014
This is interesting. As I was walking around Union Square, moments ago a person came up to me, (I have no idea why he approached me, perhaps it was the camera in hand???) and asked why the Dome was covered. He had in fact looked at this Wiki and expected the dome in the photo. I had to laugh but it goes to support the use of a photo that reflects what the dome "really" looks like, rather then what it used to look like or what it might look like in (late) 2017. As I mentioned above, while the photo that is current lead is/was a featured photo, it is providing a inaccurate perception of what to expect. The person that came up to me was clearly disappointed. Perhaps we should put this to one of the boards and see if a consensus can be reached. I did more pics, today without the shadow from the tree and when I get them uploaded we can look at those shortly. Cheers... talk→ WPPilot  23:10, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
I've moved your photo lower down beside expanded text on the dome restoration. No other website, specifically the U.S. Capitol sites, feels the need to change their images to a scaffold enshrouded one; and Wikipedia is not a news service. Besides, the timeline for completion of the work is 2 years, not 3 (they will want that unsightly scaffolding removed by the next presidential inauguration). Dhtwiki (talk) 05:45, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
I disagree, but that's ok. My comment had nothing to do with News Services, it was more about being accurate and concise. I did speak to one of the construction supervisors, and he did tell me personally that this will be done in 2017. He was a supervisor, wearing a official badge from the construction team, he must have been wrong. I changed the lead as most people do not review in great detail, the entire page and that is what it really looks like, and people should get the correct info. I will post this, when I have time to a admin board and as mentioned before I think we should get other users involved in this conversation. talk→ WPPilot  12:12, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
@WPPilot: I just put a brief note in the lead regarding the dome's altered appearance, which should do something to avoid people feeling misled. My source for completion by Jan. 20, 2017, is the Capitol architect's page. I would understand why they would want it done by then. This page has a large number of watchers (168), and this is the place to discuss these issues. I would prefer that people already interested in this article be the ones to give an opinion. I don't know what you might accomplish by addressing an admin board. I don't think this is that serious an issue right now. Dhtwiki (talk) 05:49, 14 November 2014 (UTC)

@Dhtwiki:I was referring to a group or project board, not core admin boards related to policy issues, you are correct in that, yes. With all those watchers it seems odd that this is a conversation just between you and I, but never the less, I did not ask for a date or month, the officer said it was under construction until 2017, and you confirmed that above. That same "officer" claimed it would look, "better then ever" so the lead pic, I hope will then be replaced to show its pdated state. As far as what you prefer, "I would prefer..." frankly speaking your preferences have nothing to do with this or any other wiki, policy controls how things are done, and that is what I am following. I would prefer a HUGE bag of million dollar bills, but I have no chance of obtaining them, on Wikipedia.. If a photo I took, of ANYTHING on Wiki regardless of it being a "featured photo" was inaccurate, then I would HOPE that someone comes along takes a new pic and replaces it. A "featured photo" will always be a "featured photo" that does not mean we have to use any "featured photo" as a lead regardless of that topics current state. If the building was painted red white and blue, would you "prefer" to use the "Featured photo" or the accurate photo showing the new red white & blue house? Policy states that we use accurate pictures, not pictures that you prefer, see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view..... talk→ WPPilot  19:20, 14 November 2014 (UTC)