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External link to St Wulfstan millennium website

Is it worth adding an external link to www.stwulfstan.org.uk? --Synestauromai (talk) 17:50, 17 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Last bishop standing?

The introdutory paragraph had read: "Wulfstan was the only bishop who maintained his office under William the Conqueror after the Norman Conquest." This is incorrect - no bishop was deposed in 1066. William moved against none of the four French bishops appointed by Edward the Confessor, while five English-born bishops died in office, and five English-born bishops were deposed under the Conqueror. William did transform the English episcopate into a Norman institution, but not as quickly as some would state.

French bishops at the Conquest:

William, Bishop of London (died 1075)
Herman, Bishop of Sherborne (died 1078)
Walter, Bishop of Hereford (died 1079)
Giso, Bishop of Wells (died 1088)

English bishops who died in office:

Wulfwig, Bishop of Dorchester (died 1067)
Ealdred, Archbishop of York (died 1069)
Leofric, Bishop of Exeter (died 1072)
Siward, Bishop of Rochester (died 1075)
Wulfstan, Bishop of Worcester (died 1095)

English bishops deposed under William I:

Stigand, Archbishop of Canterbury & Bishop of Winchseter (dep. 1070)
Æthelmær, Bishop of Elmham (dep. 1070)
Leofwin, Bishop of Lichfield (dep. 1070)
Æthelric II, Bishop of Selsey (dep. 1070)
Æhelwine, Bishop of Durham (dep. 1071 - died in captivity)

Iacobus (talk) 02:18, 31 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I know you mean well, but what do you mean by "French bishops"? - I do not think ALL of these so-called "French bishops" were 'French' at the time, but rather 'Norman' and the like. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.65.142.56 (talk) 03:12, 14 September 2015 (UTC)[reply]

"Notable" dedications...

PUtthing this here, in case any of them eventually receive their own article ... if they don't have an article, they are hardly "notable". Ealdgyth - Talk 16:47, 5 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

St Wul(f)stan's is the name of several notable churches:

St Wulstan's, Malvern Wells, Worcestershire is where Edward Elgar is buried.
St Wulstan's, Newcastle-under-Lyme, Staffordshire.
St Wulstan's, Bournbrook, Birmingham.
St Wulstan's Roman Catholic Church, Stourport-on-Severn, Worcestershire.
St Wulstan's, Warndon, Worcester
Church of Our Lady And St Wulstan, Southam, Warwickshire.
Bishop Wulstan R.C. High School in Rugby, Warwickshire is one of the schools named after him.
Saint Wulstan, a former psychiatric hospital near Malvern, and now the Wulstan nature reserve.
Saint Wulstan's Roman Catholic Church, Totteridge, High Wycombe.

Inconsistent biography

It is obvious that Wulfstan cannot have been parish priest at Hawkesbury from 1034 onwards, if he was only ordained in 1038. I notice that there is no citation given for the date of ordination. However, none of the three citations given for the date of his ministry at Hawkesbury actually support that claim. (One of them states that he *came* to Hawkesbury in 1034, but does not state that he was a priest at the time.) JBritnell (talk) 08:19, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Sources too often give dates based on unreliable sources or plain guesses. The only dates for his early life in the best source, his DNB article, are 1033-38 for the reign of Bishop Brihtheah of Worcester, who recruited Wulfstan as an episcopal clerk. These are probably the only reliable dates. Dudley Miles (talk) 15:22, 1 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. I note that the DNB entry is specifically cited in support of only one claim in the whole article: that Wulfstan and Lanfranc were responsible for ending the medieval Bristol slave trade. Which appears likely to be an overstatement, given that the slave trade continued into the 1100s (according to the Bristol slave trade article), by which time both were dead. I don't have access to the DNB to check what Mason actually has to say on that subject. JBritnell (talk) 02:20, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

The statement in the Bristol slave trade article is based on a source which is not reliable for the Anglo-Saxon period. I have corrected it based on the most authoritative source. Dudley Miles (talk) 09:36, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks again. JBritnell (talk) 10:45, 5 December 2021 (UTC)[reply]