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The following is an archived discussion of the DYK nomination of the article below. Please do not modify this page. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as this nomination's talk page, the article's talk page or Wikipedia talk:Did you know), unless there is consensus to re-open the discussion at this page. No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was: promoted by Gatoclass (talk) 17:42, 9 August 2015 (UTC)

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Commemorative Cantata for the Centenary of the Birth of Pushkin[edit]

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  • Comment: This is meant to be a birthday gift for Glazunov on his 150th birthday, 10 August, - therefore please pictured ;) (Other composers get a FA that day, not this neglected one.) - Other hooks possible, but I found this just so ironic - especially if you look who wrote the lyrics which the composer could not refuse.

Created by Gerda Arendt (talk) and Sealle (talk). Nominated by Gerda Arendt (talk) at 16:10, 4 August 2015 (UTC).

  • Article was created 2 days ago, is about 2.5K of prose, and no obvious copyvios tripping in the report. The hook is cited to the gramaphone.co.uk source, broadly construed. (and if somebody claims original research on something saying who did compose it to verify that someone didn't I'll have seen it all...) Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 19:17, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Returned from prep. The hook doesn't make sense. Following is the discussion on WT:DYK:
  • @Yoninah: The music was composed by Glazunoy. The hook refers to the text of it. I was a bit confused at first as well, to be honest, but I thought with the emphasis that I added to "composed by" and "author Alexander Pushkin", it worked well enough. Without the context that you would expect the text to be written by the author it's about, this hook may be less than ideal, though. ~ RobTalk 19:26, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Sorry, to a casual reader, it doesn't make any sense. Yoninah (talk) 19:47, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Agreed. Even after reading it several times, I still don't get what it's trying to say. --Jakob (talk) aka Jakec 19:55, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
  • I believe this is Gerda's attempt to be humorous, and I assume good faith that, being a prolific contributor to DYK, she is able to supply another hook, though nothing comes to mind from reading the article. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 20:10, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
  • We should pull this, but it should be fast tracked back to Prep 1 if possible because it was in holding for this specific day. ~ RobTalk 20:30, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
  • I think the issue here is that the average reader doesn't know that it's unusual for this to happen. Basing the words of the cantata on a poet seems entirely normal to most people, and therefore isn't interesting. Sufficient context isn't communicable in 200 characters, unfortunately. I haven't pulled this from prep yet in the hopes that this gets sorted out in time for this to run on the day that it's meant to, but I'll have to pull it if it gets close. How about this alt? It comes close on characters with 199, but that's justified given the long article name. Pinging Yoninah in the hopes of an expedited review. ~ RobTalk 23:27, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
  • The source calls Symphony 8 "one of his very finest". This quote doesn't appear in the article and perhaps doesn't apply to the cantata, but the symphony. I'm moving this back to the noms page so we can work it out there. Yoninah (talk) 23:33, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
We could also include "according to a review" somewhere, but that will push us over the character limit and probably isn't necessary with the quotation marks. ~ RobTalk 01:15, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
  • That works. ALT3 hook ref verified and cited inline. ALT3 good to go. Yoninah (talk) 01:36, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
  • Could someone promote this back to Prep 1, preferably in the lead slot with the image? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 01:36, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
  • If this is moved to the lead slot of Prep 1, please move the existing image there to another prep. The image currently in prep 1 is of exceptional quality, and should not be run as hook only. ~ RobTalk 04:27, 9 August 2015 (UTC)
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