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CSD notification[edit]

The page User:Mirhuma/sandbox looks like it may be a valid CSD, but I prefer not to delete a page unless the creator has been notified. I understand that sometimes automated tools fail to do the notification for some reason. Not sure if that was the case, but could you make the notification? Because it is a G12, I went ahead and deleted, but it would still be nice to notify, so they aren't wondering what happened.SPhilbrick(Talk) 19:47, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Thanks avs5221(talk|contrib) 19:56, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

SupportMart - declined[edit]

I want to know why you've declined the submission of SupportMart. If you check the pages http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IYogi then it has references from the Crunchbase, Carbonite CA Press Release, Pluggd.in Press Release etc. They are few more examples. I got above reference for my answer as I found them during my research., — Preceding unsigned comment added by ReorMurphy (talkcontribs) 04:28, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Arnold Östman article[edit]

Thanks for your quick review of my proposed article on Arnold Östman. Your disapproval came with the comment: "Comment: Some of your claims, such as "international reputation" and "operas with period instruments caused a considerable stir in the early days of the historical-performance movement" are not backed up by the attributed sources."

For the first claim, "international reputation", I have supplied a reference to the NY Times that contains this line: "since 1980, when Arnold Ostman became artistic director, the original-instruments orchestra has attracted increasing international attention." I hope that substantiates my claim.

For the second claim, "operas with period instruments caused a considerable stir in the early days of the historical-performance movement" -- I'm a little puzzled by your comment. The source that I attribute this to contains the following: "...taken from live performances at the Drottningholm Theatre and led by Arnold Östman, whose recorded Mozart operas with period instruments caused such a stir in the early days of the historical-performance movement." The italicized passage seems to support my claim.

I'd like to re-submit with the new source added regarding the first claim.

Would that be wise? Or were there further problems with the draft article/

Thanks for your advice. Jburlinson (talk) 00:07, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

On the first point, the NYT article is referencing the orchestra, not Ostman. It gives, in my opinion, unwarranted credit to Ostman. On the second point, I concede I missed that line; but, I'm not sure a such a claim can be backed up by one mention in a review. Food for thought? avs5221(talk|contrib) 00:25, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
OK. How would it be if I added another reference to a critical essay written by well-known musicologist Stanley Sadie that starts: "Anyone interested in the authentic performance of early music will know that for some time the Swedish conductor Arnold Ostman has been essaying performances of this kind at the court opera house, Drottningholm, just outside Stockholm. There can be no better place to attempt it; the theatre is in virtually its original (1766) condition, with the wooden machinery in working order and copies of the original stage sets available. The revivals I have seen there do not in fact make a serious attempt to reproduce period staging, but musically they go a long way towards offering the kind of sound and approach that eighteenth-century composers envisaged for their works."
Would that be sufficient to bolster the claims of "international reputation"?
Thanks again for your good counsel.
Jburlinson (talk) 03:46, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Avs5221,

Thanks for reviewing my article earlier today; I'll do my best to take on board your feedback and resubmit.

Can you advise what I should do when I cannot find a reliable source on the internet, to help give the information in my article the credibility it needs?

For example, the awards listed in my article are very rarely hosted anywhere on the internet, but we have them in physical form in our office. The organisations who give these awards do not tend to host them online anywhere, especially if they are more than a year or two old. What can I do here to avoid being declined again?

Also, the article I'm putting forward is about "Mick" Fabar, not "Mike" Fabar. Is there any way I can change this?

Thanks again for your help, hopefully I can get this approved on my next try.

Cheers, Dave. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.223.219.99 (talk) 01:53, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Article approved. avs5221(talk|contrib) 14:08, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Indian Institute of Fire Engineering.[edit]

Hi,

I resubmitted the article number of times but it was declined. Initially I had not added references and links. But afterwards I added all the possibilities of links which can be verified by all means. Can you please guide me exactly what else should be done so that the article will be submitted. The institution is good, conducting job oriented courses.

Thanks and kind regards, Girish Patil (dolphouse) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dolphouse (talkcontribs) 02:27, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I declined it for notability. Please review WP:GNG. Most of your sources simply provide directory-type information (where it's located, classes it offers, etc.) and do not establish notability for the college. avs5221(talk|contrib) 14:18, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Vandalism[edit]

Urgent: There has been vandalism to the CERN page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CERN. "Hahahaha" has been substituted for -- well, I don't know what, but "hahahaha" can't be right! Miss Ivonne (talk) 20:23, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Done User warned avs5221(talk|contrib) 13:29, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Family Friendly Gaming page decline[edit]

I need your assistance. I do not comprehend why the Family Friendly Gaming page was declined. I followed all the Wikipedia guidelines. The story is noteworthy, and notable. The golden rule was followed. A long list of verifiable sources were listed. I do not understand why it was declined. I understand at first about the inline references. I did not know that had to be linked inside the article. Once I did that it should have passed. I see plenty of pages on Wikipedia that I question their noteworthyness. But Family Friendly Gaming is very unique. I appreciate their diversity from the rest of the gaming sites. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.217.112.12 (talk) 00:00, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I declined the page because it is almost entirely self-published and the other sources are only trivial at best. Reviews, press releases, brief mentions, etc. do not help establish notability in an article. Please see the general notability guidelines for more information and really be aware of 'what' your sources are contributing to the article rather than focusing on how many sources you have. avs5221(talk|contrib) 13:43, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Corey Sterling - Declined[edit]

hello there reviewer, I just got your message declining my contribution as not having good references. Well, I am really new to this and would like to contribute; but wow, it just seems set up to be mind boggling! what I am refering to is all the special syntax and what not. In the past I tryed to start an article on another Canadian Singer/Songwriter and have it declined as being nonsense ( whatever that meant) only to see a rather large page accepted a year later by someone ele's .....well all this tells me that it obviously was a good subject to have included, and that I somehow got the shaft. Ok so now I realize you need references and whatnot so I decide to try and contribute another article about a Canadian singer and include references but now you tell me these references are not good.....fair enough but these are the only references I can find.....I mean it is public knowledge he sang on Kenny Wayne Sheppards "ledbetter Heights" album and he is also listed as the singer on Chris Aarons "Freedom 5 Miles" album in fact he is listed on Wikipedia's article on "ledbetter Heights"; what more are you looking for?? Maybe I really should pack my bags (well, my computer) and go home.....at fifty I am to old for this kinda complicated computer lingo...like what the hell is 03:48, 6 July 2012 (UTC)03:48, 6 July 2012 (UTC)~ tildes have to do with a freakin signature anyway? Give me a break!!~!~~ I really love the idea of Wikipedia where anyone can contribute and have found so much usefull info on the site.......but if you want a real crossection of the population as contributors you better make it a little bit more friendly. Anyway if you have any suggestions on how I can improve the references please let me know. Thank's micpenn......discouraged fan ready to quit....oh alright 03:48, 6 July 2012 (UTC)~ humph, damn tildes never heard of them before! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Micpenn (talkcontribs)

I understand getting a hang of the lingo can be...overwhelming. But there are a lot of editors here who are willing to help if you have a little patience and perseverance. I would strongly recommend you head over to new contributor help for any questions you have on formatting, content, sources, etc. I promise, if you stick with it, it's well worth the time and effort! avs5221(talk|contrib) 14:36, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Articles_for_creation/KI_Philip_Ramban[edit]

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Dear Sir/ Madam,

I have added the links and edited contents of article as advised by you. Please check and let me know if it is in order. Also do let me know how to go about adding a photo of the concerned individual.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/KI_Philip_Ramban

Regards, Capt. Mohan Kuruvilla — Preceding unsigned comment added by Capt. Mohan Kuruvilla (talkcontribs) 10:06, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The article still reads like an essay and is not sourced well enough for a WP:BLP. "His lifelong selfless service," "Despite his many achievements in humanitarian service and in providing shelter and support to a large number of children and in grooming them to be good citizens, he continues to remain publicity shy." " Thus he and his dedicated team was instrumental in rebuilding two villages with the funds provided by the Orthodox Church." These are just examples, but the tone is inappropriate for an encyclopedic article. avs5221(talk|contrib) 14:02, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Afc: Biking against nukes[edit]

Hi You recently reviewed my submitted article: Biking against nukes and declined it on the fact that it didnot have reliable sources. My article has been previously declined for the same reason. What I dont understand is I have added independent references as well as official references of r verification and citation. I t would be very helpful if you help me to know where I am lacking.

Thanks --Arash 10:43, 6 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arashdeep (talkcontribs)

First we need to make the distinction between BAN and IPPNW. So the 4th source, the Nobel Prize, is irrelevant to the article. The 3rd source is from [1], which doesn't appear to be a reliable source. [2] is not a reliable source. Also note the main page has been hacked. I think what really is of note is the group's own media coverage makes very clear this one a time time event and would likely be deleted as news coverage of a single event. avs5221(talk|contrib) 13:59, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Article for Creation: Toonz[edit]

Sorry to bother you once again, but i modified http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Toonz, could you please take a look and tell me if it is ok now?

Thanks, --'''土地 空気 火災 水''' (talk) 11:51, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Reviewed article. Please see comments there. avs5221(talk|contrib) 13:52, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]


This MUST be some sort of joke... The sources are not self published (we are NOT a university, we are NOT Studio Ghibli, we are NOT Donald Wallace).
"I'm just not convinced this isn't a non-notable company that went the wayside when more notable technologies grabbed larger market shares." What? The only opponent in the market share are the guys from ToonBoom (hey, look at that, they have an article on wikipedia, in the talk section they say it is written like an ad, they have 3 references, but hey, they have the article!!!)
At this point, i guess that all of you do have some serious brain problems. You said there was no references, i added them, now you say the references are not valid (they ARE valid), next what? Goddamit, you accepted some crazy s**t like Buttered Cat Paradox, like [3], but you keep rejecting this article.
Now, before I start to get angry, not only because YOU think that we are a... wait, what was that? oh yeah! a "non-notable company that went the wayside when more notable technologies grabbed larger market shares", but because you keep rejecting what is a good article (and not an ad), let someone else with some brain in his skull check this article, while you can stand aside and live your life without rejecting all the articles that you don't like.


Best Regards,

--'''土地 空気 火災 水''' (talk) 14:17, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

p.s. they say that Wikipedia is a free and collaboratively edited encyclopedia. I see that this is not true. This is a dictatorship.

Just stumbled over this[edit]

page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_%26_Ouzman_Limited - drafted and created solely by
User: Guymcall, whose sole contribution is the above...
The article has minimal content and just one embedded reference, and that is to the company which is the topic of the article.
If I saw this at AfC, I would have said, "Advertisement. Decline."

My first instinct is to activate the article talk page and ask, very politely, whether anyone else has had any oversight or review of the article, and whether any independent references might be in the pipeline.

Any helpful suggestions? David_FLXD (Talk) 12:40, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]


the question is: Who accepted this page? It's not even a draft, it has no references, and the image is 100px! --'''土地 空気 火災 水''' (talk) 12:47, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Confused about Decline[edit]

I am confused as to why my article did not receive acceptance; I didn't do anything different from my Arctic Anthropology article I submitted a few weeks ago. Could I please receive some more feedback in order to make sure my articles get accepted?

Press Stevens (talk) 14:17, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I don't believe I've reviewed your article. Link please? avs5221(talk|contrib) 14:48, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not sure if this is the link you want, but: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Press_Stevens. It had stated your username as the one who reviewed. Press Stevens (talk) 15:04, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

User:81M approved this article...avs5221(talk|contrib) 15:08, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ok... Press Stevens (talk) 15:14, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for reviewing my article. I have added sources as per your advice and generally cleaned up the article. I would like to re-submit it if you think it is ready to go online. If it requires more work, I would be grateful for your suggestions. Regards. Karrattul (talk) 17:14, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sparqlight[edit]

Hi, thanks for your feedback with the following page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Sparqlight

Can you please tell me what specifically I'm missing for notability and sources? I've included all independent references and the service is widely used.

Thanks! Vince — Preceding unsigned comment added by VinceBitong (talkcontribs) 23:02, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I am sad that my article is rejected :( — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guptakhy (talkcontribs) 02:29, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

AFC/R[edit]

Just a request to be more careful with AFC/R reviews; a bunch of items (e.g. Institut polytechnique des sciences appliquées) you marked yesterday with Redirect created but without creating them, while several different forms of Fast And Furious Scandal you declined because they already existed — but they were redlinks until I created them today. Nyttend (talk) 16:04, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Anilmam's comment[edit]

May I know how one is supposed to highlight the reference of a particular person at a particular place, when the reference material is long and has many pages.Anilmam (talk) 17:10, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Uinta-Wasatch-Cache National Forest[edit]

So far as can tell, you are the reviewer that "declined" our article submission Uinta-Wasatch-Cache National Forest (not the redirect page to Wasatch-Cache National Forest). However your stated reasoning as to why seems confusing at best. The reply stated, "You can find it and improve it at Uinta-Wasatch-Cache National Forest instead." However, the article referenced for improvement IS the article "declined". The link, however, connects to a redirect page that then connects to Wasatch-Cache National Forest.

The only logical reason for declining the NEW Uinta-Wasatch-Cache National Forest article (which includes additional and CURRENT information regarding this newly formed administrative division of the US Forest Service) is that the OLD Wasatch-Cache National Forest article should be modified reflecting the current changes. However, if that line of reasoning is followed then the Wasatch-Cache National Forest article should never have been approved, instead the Wasatch National Forest article should have been modified (since the new administrative organization included older one). Oh wait, actually the Wasatch National Forest article should never have been approved either, since the Uinta National Forest article should have been modified (because the new administrative organization was created from the older one). Actually, that one should have never been approved either since there should have been an article on the Uintah Forest Reserve. . .

Do you see where this line of thinking leads? We believe that Wikipedia should include separate articles that address both OLD and NEW organizations (with the "old" articles describing things as they were and the "new" articles describing things as they currently are) or they should all be combined. However, it seems your decision to decline our submission appears to arbitrarily want it both ways.

If the “new” organization was just a renaming of the old, it would make sense to modify the article about the “old” organization. In this case, the “new” organizational structure is both a merger and a modification of older ones, it does not make sense to modify the old articles. Since we are knowledgeable regarding the subject matter (and can and do provide references of such) we would like to continue including additional and current information regarding the same. However, if Wikipedia’s position is what you make it appear to be, then we will not waste our time attempting to include more details and references regarding this or other articles for which we are “subject matter experts”. 161.119.83.174 (talk) 18:33, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

When entity A is modified to become entity B, we'll often have them covered in the same article; that's why Alaska's Skagway-Hoonah-Angoon Census Area redirects to the Hoonah–Angoon Census Area article when H-A is simply what S-H-A became when Skagway was separated. Your proposal would involve repurposing lots of articles; while you're free to make such a proposal, it would have big enough ramifications that it should be discussed at a more prominent place than Avs5221's talk page. If you want to make this proposal publicly, you probably should go to WP:VP/Pr and create a new section; just click the "add new topics" link near the top of the page and copy/paste there the comments you just made here. If any of this confuse you, just leave a note at my talk page by doing what you did here. Nyttend (talk) 19:55, 7 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Marking AFC submissions as under review[edit]

Please take care marking AFC submissions as under review, as you did here and here, i.e. do actually review them in good time. It isn't really fair to the author to have their submission in limbo for days. joe•roetc 09:51, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I'm juggling between 200-300 AfC submissions a day. I've moved them into the review queue to give me some time to deal with submissions that have been in AfC for weeks. I think the author won't mind if the article waits a day if it allows a fuller, more comprehensive review and clean up of their article before entering mainspace. avs5221(talk|contrib) 13:28, 6 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]
If all it needs is a clean up, then there's no reason not accept it there and then, surely? joe•roetc 07:13, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Stone Key Partners[edit]

Hi- you rejected my first article....http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Stone_Key_Partners

What do I need to do to increase notability? This organization is routinely covered and discussed in published material by Reuters, the New York Times, the Wall St. Journal, the Washington Post, the Deal, Washington Technology, etc.

Please let me know how I can make my article better to fit the guidelines.

Thank you!

James — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesr1978 (talkcontribs) 21:15, 8 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for clearing your time I hope to work with you to ensure that the article is appropriate and meets the guidelines. The main reason for my reasoning of this subject's notability is the collaboration he has had with a multi platnum artist, which is applicable with the criteria number ten. In addition the fourth reference that was added to the article (He had two songs featured on Leakanthropy, the album released by Raplarzeh. [4) indicated more evidence to support the tenth criteria which in this case was "inclusion on a notable compilation album". The eligibility of the source that indicated he has had "multiple hits" can be presented here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_Javan "Radio Javan is a leading pioneer in introducing new Persian musicians, and singers, as well as promoting the more well known ones.[1]" this indicated that this source is "non-trivial coverage" which would make him notable on the basis of his prominence in the international Iranian community, indirectly supporting the second note of criteria (Iranian music does not have charts, thus reliable sources to indicate the celebrity of the artist in the community is the closest that one could get) and directly supporting the seventh note of criteria (prominent representatives of a notable style or the most prominent of the local scene of a city) with the city in this case being Tehran (Or arguable any City with a prominent amount of iranians). Thank you again for your time, I look forward to speaking with you and learning the wikipedia system better and enhancing my abilities from learning from your experience,direction and knowledge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roberfrostdc (talkcontribs) 14:27, 9 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Status of an Article[edit]

Hi, How can i check back the status of an article that i submiteed or whether its been reviewed or not? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Madiha.Hamid (talkcontribs) 06:22, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Declined article resubmit questions[edit]

Good morning! Thanks for reviewing my submission. Your review said it did not appear to be set up in an encyclopedic format. I've gone back through and set up headings, added the individual's birthdate and reformatted the references a bit... would you mind having a quick look and tell me if that's ok, whether I'm on the right track but... or what else you might suggest? This is the first time I've submitted a bio page like that. I'm learning. Appreciate your help! Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by GatorHalcon (talkcontribs) 14:04, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ucef Hanjani[edit]

Hello,

Looking for some further advice on my article. Know I have to change the perspective, it needs to be more encyclopedic, etc. Could you perhaps advise me on this? Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samanthavacca (talkcontribs) 19:09, 10 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The One-Shot War[edit]

Thanks for reviewing my submission on novel The One-Shot War.

I've added another reference and cleaned up the referencing so I hope it looks better now. One problem I have is that, due to all of the novel being published in 1981, it's difficult for me to find digital copies of the reviews. Google News has some scanned papers, but not a lot, and the Boston Globe archive has to be paid for to get full access. I've added every decent free reference online now. If the novel was published now it would be far easier. I suppose this is something that must come up all the time in terms of creating articles about older subjects.

Cheers again for taking the time.

Michaeloc84 (talk) 02:57, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Upload components article[edit]

Dear Avs5221,

Thank you for reviewing my article. You say in your comment that the article doesn't fit the encyclopedic standards. With all my respect I am not sure I understand what exact rule did I break. I my article I tried to describe what are the upload components, what are they used for, why they are more convenient than the standard upload methods. I also tried to describe main upload components features and observe currently existing solutions. Could you please point me to the right direction about how do I modify the article to make it more encyclopedic? What should I change? Is it the style or anything else?

Thank you for your time, here is the link to my article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Upload_components

Best regards, Pauline — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aurigma (talkcontribs) 07:16, 11 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Resubmit pages- Humanperformance[edit]

Hi there,

I am trying to resubmit my pages after adhering to your comments, but I cannot find the option for this. Can you be of assistance? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Humanperformance (talkcontribs) 06:17, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback[edit]

Hello, Avs5221. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Files for upload.
Message added 16:43, 12 July 2012 (UTC). You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Would you try it? mabdul 16:43, 12 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Question re:submission decline[edit]

Avs5221,

Thanks for your feedback for my submission (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Alan_E._Hall). You said I should not just link to the articles that Mr. Hall has written.

I tried to style Mr. Hall's page after this one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_K_Williams. He is a similar figure and also has a sub-section on his wiki that include his articles he has written.

The author of that page linked to them and their page was still approved. Just wanted to check with you and see what else I could do to resolve that issue.


Thanks, Zac Lambert Zaclambert (talk) 17:18, 12 July 2012 (UTC) zac@snappconner.com[reply]

Submission declined for article on Made.com(Retailer)[edit]

Dear Avs5221,
Thanks for reviewing my submission - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Made.com_(retailer)
The review comments state that the article does not adhere to the referencing guidelines and questions the subject’s notability. I would like to reiterate that the references provided are from notable sources like BBC, Guardian, Techcrunch etc.

Also, the awards mentioned have been reported in publications like telegraph and goodwebguide.com.

Please let me know if any changes need to be made to better to fit the reference guidelines.

Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JulesMajor (talkcontribs) 09:29, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Brookfield Class Action Lawsuit[edit]

Thanks for the input, I have made several corrections to my article. Hope this can be created now, thanks! :) Hammerstone2012 (talk) 17:40, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Changes to article[edit]

Dear Avs5221 Thank you for your feedback. I've made some changes to the article. Can you let me know if I'm on the right track? You suggested that I need more reliable sources. I put in ISBN links and links to Amazon for the published books. Are those considered adequate sources to show that a book has been published? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Patrick_O._O%27Meara Thank you for your time! Carrot70 Carrot70 (talk) 19:31, 13 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Is this article being reviewed?[edit]

I could not find it in the pending area and I have made several changes and have updated the article. Brookfield Class Action Lawsuit Hammerstone2012 (talk) 13:35, 15 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How to fix my contribution[edit]

Hello, would love some further information on how to properly update my prospective page about creative director Ucef Hanjani. If you could please advise me on this manner I would be incredibly grateful. Thanks Samanthavacca (talk) 14:44, 16 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tunnel People wiki page[edit]

Hello, Avs5221. You have new messages at Avs5221's talk page.
You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

Hello, I am the one who's editing “Tunnel People” page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Tunnel_People .

I want to know how can I exactly improve sources to make the page accepted: what do you think is missing? I have red both wiki page about referencing for beginners and citing sources and I don't understand what' wrong, can you please help me?

Ransfortstraat (talk) 09:01, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Avs5221. You have new messages at SuedlF's talk page.
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Ilai Fund Article
[edit]

Dear Editor, You recently (June 29) rejected the above article (Ilai Fund)for reason of insufficient context. I'd like to understand more clearly what exactly is lacking. I'm aware that third party references in English are currently lacking or insufficient. I hope this will be remedied in the coming months. Please confirm if that is the main problem, or if the problem lies elsewhere. If any context is lacking in a specific area, apart from this problem, please inform. I hope this message is properly formatted, as I'm new around here. Best Regards,SuedlF SuedlF (talk) 09:13, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Submission declined for article on Made.com(Retailer)[edit]

Dear Avs5221,

Thanks for reviewing my submission. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Made.com_(retailer)

Your review questions the source’s notability. I have improved the article including few changes to source referencing.

I would further like to reiterate that the references provided are from notable and reliable news sources like BBC, Guardian, Techcrunch etc and the awards mentioned have been reported in publications like telegraph and goodwebguide.com.

Please reconsider accepting my submission.

Thanks, Jules — Preceding unsigned comment added by JulesMajor (talkcontribs) 16:34, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

How to fix my article?[edit]

Hi, you reviewed my article and I was hoping for some feedback regarding where these changes should be made. The previous reviewer left the same comment, and I had made some substantial changes before submitting it again. Any feedback would be welcome, thank you! Wrightae (talk) 16:43, 17 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff Kline article[edit]

Hey,

just wondering about the status of above article. Late June says you were removing the AfC template.

Thanks!

Afarbs (talk) 16:00, 21 July 2012 (UTC)Audrey[reply]

Reliable Sources....[edit]

I recently submitted an article for inclusion that you rejected because of a purported lack of "reliable sources." There were a lot of sources for the article mostly newspapers, but a variety, so I am not sure what exactly I need to add or change. Please contact me, because I'm very confused about this. GiryaGirl Kettlebells and Food 19:05, 22 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by GiryaGirl (talkcontribs)

Re-submission of Majka Burhardt piece[edit]

Greetings!

I am new to Wikipedia and have a quick question. My first attempt to contribute an article was understandably declined. I have edited the entry since and am wondering how to re-submit for review? I've saved all of my edits, checked other "talk" subjects, looked through various instruction pages, and am still not sure whether my article is being re-considered or not. So, thank you in advance for your assistance.

With Kind Regards, OffGridJulia (talk) 16:21, 24 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

p.s. Here is the link to my article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Majka_Burhardt

Adding More Reliable Sources[edit]

Dear Avs5221, Thank you for your comments. You suggested that I need more reliable sources, so I've made several changes. Can you let me know if this is what you're looking for? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Patrick_O._O%27Meara Thank you! Carrot70 Carrot70 (talk) 14:57, 27 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

fyi, since you accepted it at afc. DGG ( talk ) 03:35, 5 August 2012 (UTC) similarly, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Michael White (British politician).[reply]

I reassure you that I am not going through your acceptances primarily, but looking at all the articles accepted on July 1, and following where it leads me. DGG ( talk ) 03:46, 5 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

William Groves Carson/Hebron Presbyterian Church, Banks County, Georgia[edit]

I have not heard anything since July 2, 2012. Please consider the latest edits in my submission. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.96.92.116 (talk) 12:04, 6 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Rocco Leo Gaglioti[edit]

Hello, Avs!

A while ago (early July, to be exact), I submitted an article for review (Rocco Leo Gaglioti). It said that it had insufficient citation information. May I ask what specific spots I can improve upon, if it's not too much trouble? I know the article is essentially a stub and (as I now know) is missing a few citations, but he's not a particularly well-documented celebrity. I found most of the information through word-of-mouth from him and a few select biographies he gave me to work with. Can I ask him to write a short article on himself with some of the information required or anything like that? I know he wanted the Wikipedia article but doesn't necessarily want to put any effort into it himself (that's not an insult, just a truth). Thank you!

Alana Gilston (talk) 02:16, 13 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

AFC Backlog[edit]

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Nomination of Michael White (British politician) for deletion

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The discussion is occuring here. As the reviewer, your contribution to the discussion will be helpful in reaching a consensus. NoomBot (talk) 13:39, 18 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Jeff Kline[edit]

Hello,

Just checking in again about the status of Jeff Kline article. Please do let me know if anything needs to be changed or updated whatsoever.

Thank you!

Audrey

Afarbs (talk) 01:18, 19 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Great Little Box Company[edit]

Can you please adopt me? Also, how do you add citations within the article?

Thanks in advance.

Hi Avs5221. I've removed your "request for adoption" template from your userpage, as you have not edited in over two months. Given the number of users starting on the encyclopedia each day and the number who look for adoption, there can often be a backlog when just displaying the request. You are much more likely to find an adopter if you are pro-active about it, perhaps asking an editor or two from the list of adopters if they would consider adopting you? Good luck in finding someone to help out. WormTT(talk) 09:16, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hebron Presbyterian Church, Banks County, Georgia[edit]

William Groves Carson/Hebron Presbyterian Church/Banks County,/GeorgiaWilliam Groves Carson (talk) 14:06, 24 August 2012 (UTC)William Groves Carson: Please consider my article for creation edited and re-submitted on July 2, 2012. My article entitled <Hebron Presbyterian Church,Banks County,Georgia> is an addition or link to an existing Wikipedia article entitled <Hebron Church, Cemetery and Academy>. Thanks in advanceWilliam Groves Carson (talk) 14:06, 24 August 2012 (UTC)William Groves CarsonWilliam Groves Carson (talk) 14:06, 24 August 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please give me an update on my article created for submission entitled, "Hebron Presbyterian Church, Banks County Georgia". This will be a great addition to Wikipedia site/article entitled, "Hebron Church, Cemetery and Academy". Thanks, William Groves CarsonWilliam Groves Carson (talk) 14:10, 7 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Gemma Arrowsmith Article for Creation: Question[edit]

Thank you Avs5221 for your review and your qualified "seems notable." You noted the following defects: "Seems notable, but please review your sources per WP:RS. Specifically, brief mentions or lists of credits do not help establish a person's notability." Three of the references are from published magazine sites independent of subject, which seem to fully meet the WP:RS guidelines. I am hoping you might be able to provide something a bit more specific regarding what WOULD constitute adequate proof of "notability." Any help you might be able to provide regarding what references would sway you or future editors to accepting the article would be appreciated. If this is a matter of not having noticed the magazine sites, I understand how busy you must be. Do please let me know what it is that you do want me to provide. Thank you. Article site is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Gemma_Arrowsmith 0xc0w (talk) 05:49, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Ngome ikoma & Mbachao[edit]

Hello,I just read your criticism on my article, about this Brilliant Tanzanian artist, you call it a hoax, could you explain more to me..to improve about him, as I have a feeling the re are great artist out there, who by criterion of the popular media, they luck space for exposure and recognition, please tell me more... — Preceding unsigned comment added by MosesMlinga (talkcontribs) 09:44, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Ngome ikoma & Mbachao[edit]

Hello,I just read your criticism on my article, about this Brilliant Tanzanian artist, you call it a hoax, could you explain more to me..to improve about him, as I have a feeling the re are great artist out there, who by criterion of the popular media, they luck space for exposure and recognition, please tell me more... — Preceding unsigned comment added by MosesMlinga (talkcontribs) 09:45, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sara Eisen submission[edit]

Hi, thank you for taking time to review my article submission. I read the guidelines on notable people, and wanted to ask your advice how to improve the article to make it acceptable.

The previous editor said I was making progress by pointing out Sara Eisen is a TV co-anchor of a Bloomberg financial news network program. I added similar names to her article from rival network at CNBC that have Wikipedia pages to show she is notable too.

Have a good day... Marki10024 (talk) 10:45, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hallo, whats wrong with my page? Joe Vanenkhuizen Joe Vanenkhuizen (talk) 12:21, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Mike Stroud.jpg Flagged for Deletion[edit]

Good afternoon sir, Thank you for your speedy response to the image I tried to post yesterday. As a new user to Wikipedia I am still finding my way around on a number of different system workings.

While submitting I did not see a selection for "Express-written consent" to use this image. I am the website designer for Magic Mike's "Magic Time Productions" website and I posted this image with his blessing. He is the sole owner of all of his own images, but I do have an email directly from him giving me permission to post information about him and his Bay Area persona, stage shows on Wikipedia.

As a former resident of the Bay Area (CA), I've known of Magic Mike since childhood. I watched him on TV, have purchased his books for my children, and have been to many of his performances thoughout California.

Is there a way for me to forward that written consent in Wikipedia that would allow this image to be posted?

Sincerely, Bob Ortiz , ortiz.gfxOrtiz.gfx (talk) 16:06, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]


Of course, check here.

Hi...your message was receiving most distrurbing. "Written like an advertisement", when in no way am I advertising here. I've worked on this for 2 months-have three 4" thick files of various reference pages from Wiki as well as over 20 existing Wiki pages as resources to follow. I've spent great deal of length of time studying, analyzing all the various sections of Wiki for this deveopment, particularly the details & Rules. IF there is something that Appears to be like an 'advertisement, helpful would be to point me to that specific. Afterall, this is not exactly a 'user friendly' site-aannd I am most experieced with complicaiton challenges, but this is a whole other ballgame. I'm having most difficutly with the "reference section" of this creation. I've spent 3 wks on this alone. I chose to move to 'review' area in hope of moving forward, while I continue to try & approve this areas, and possibly getting assistance. But-recently--I've spent 2 days of analysis on how to use the "talk" area-once someone wrote to me--to figure out how to do a simple action like a reply to someone, is on the 4th week. So so this is my first attempt in doing so. Hope this works-and hope you are receptive to my sharings & expressions along with appreciation of my efforts in this. The 'reference' area is not easy, most confusing, & no matter what I do I can't see to get it perfect. I Do have to edit each line format-as it needs adjusting. I hope to do this within the next 2 days. However- still requires development on how to make it proper reference section and then tying each line to the content. Bottom line: Are you referring to the reference area? Can you point me to the specific content that appears to you to be 'advertising. Thanks very-very much.Spirit2heart (talk) 20:58, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Talkback[edit]

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Hey, just to let you know, someone needs some clarification on a submission that you declined at the help desk. Michaelzeng7 (talk) 21:21, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi mate, Thanks for your comment, Unfortunately the citation/reference icon does not come up when I go into edit. I thought it was something to do with the editing process ... and that it would come up after it was proved. I have all the references ready to go. Should I copy it to another page and then thanfer it or something? Please let me know what you think. Christos Evangeli Christos Evangeli (talk) 22:47, 30 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

My article[edit]

It is not clear to me why my article was declined, and or what I can/should do to make it acceptable. Any and all feedback is genuinely appreciated.

Thanks. David — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unconventional2 (talkcontribs) 03:27, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Dear Avs5221

I am contacting you regarding the sbmitted article on Markus A. Frey which was declined again on September 30 by you. As I included many verifiable secondary sources especially with regards to the recent launch of the Mona Lisa Foundation and picture, I do not understand why it was declined.

Could you kindly please give me an example of what exactly is wrong / missing in this article in order for it to be accepted by you / other Wiki reviwers.

Many thanks in advance.

Best regards

BffozurichBffozurich (talk) 07:48, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Hi Avs5521 - I am unclear what "heavy copy editing" needs to be done to the Middlesex 3 page. Any guidance you have would be appreciated.

Best Regards,

Egsolomo — Preceding unsigned comment added by Egsolomo (talkcontribs) 14:00, 1 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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The Occupational Safety & Health Consultants Register[edit]

I have been tasked on re-visiting this article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/The_Occupational_Safety_%26_Health_Consultants_Register) and I am going to add the required references and tidy up the article. Once I do shall I message you again and let you know so you can assess the article again to see if it's up to standard? If it is still not meeting the requirements let me know but hopefully the references I will add should help. RoyalBlueStuey (talk) 10:39, 15 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Si Panya School[edit]

Hi Avs,

Back quite a few months ago you reviewed a page of mine Si Panya School (in koh Phangan) and told me fairly enough that it needed more references - these have since been added.

The page was also declined recently by someone else for being a 'primary school' and that primary schools don't generally have pages as they are non-notable. This seems to be a moot point as having looked there are countless pages for primary schools.

Si Panya is also not only the first private school on the island of Koh Phangan, but the first English language school as well as the first international school on the island. These facts have made the school notable and have caused much outside discussion, as can be seen in some of the page referencing.

The development of the school has opened the possibility of living full-time on the island for many families with children, before the school was available many families chose to move away when their children were of school age.

As you can appreciate this has made a huge impact to the island and has prompted discussion from all sectors of island life, as to how the island can grow in a sustainable manner. This year has seen massive changes take place not only the first international school, but the first airport will open next month, the prime minister of Thailand came yesterday and has given the funding needed to also build a dam that will provide a reliable water source for the island, these projects all have positives and negatives, and are very much notable and widely discussed on our small island as each has a wide reaching impact on the whole community and the future of island life

I tried to resubmit the page again today but being a newbie to this I was unsure if i had done it correctly, please could i ask you to re-look at the page and consider it for submission.

best regards Sarah white 1 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarah white 1 (talkcontribs) 04:54, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

this should link you to the above Si Panya Page...i hope http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Si_Panya_School — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sarah white 1 (talkcontribs) 04:59, 21 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

WikiProject:Articles for Creation October - November 2012 Backlog Elimination Drive[edit]

WikiProject Articles for creation Backlog Elimination Drive

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Dear Avs5221

After lengthy online chat with bjelleklang at Wiki online help about the submitted article on Markus A. Frey, I kindly ask you to reconsider the submission of this article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Markus_A._Frey). I believe that there are at least two references that are nontrivial. For example: In the newly independly published book "Hüter der Ehre" there is a whole chapter dedicated to Markus A. Frey (Reference 10). Also, the portrait about Markus A. Frey on the website of the Thailand Embassy (reference 9) could surely be considered nontrivial, siginificant, reliable and independent, do you agree?

Additionally, there are two indepths interviews with him both in the magazine from Swiss Asian Chamber of Commerce (reference 4) as well as the Thailand Travel magazine (reference 5).

Lastly, Markus A. Frey gave a wealth of interviews as the president of the Mona Lisa Foundations which were featured in the international media in early September featuring photos and video interviews with him. (ie reference 15)

I would be very grateful, if you could reconsider publishing the article. I will try and get additional indepth articles about him in the meantime.

Thank you in advance and best regards

Bffozurich (talk) 13:31, 30 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Please reconsider Article submission Markus A. Frey[edit]

After lengthy online chat with bjelleklang at Wiki online help about the submitted article on Markus A. Frey, I kindly ask you to reconsider the submission of this article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Articles_for_creation/Markus_A._Frey). I believe that there are at least two references that are nontrivial. For example: In the newly independly published book "Hüter der Ehre" there is a whole chapter dedicated to Markus A. Frey (Reference 10). Also, the portrait about Markus A. Frey on the website of the Thailand Embassy (reference 9) could surely be considered nontrivial, siginificant, reliable and independent, do you agree? Additionally, there are two indepths interviews with him both in the magazine from Swiss Asian Chamber of Commerce (reference 4) as well as the Thailand Travel magazine (reference 5). Lastly, Markus A. Frey gave a wealth of interviews as the president of the Mona Lisa Foundations which were featured in the international media in early September featuring photos and video interviews with him. (ie reference 15) I would be very grateful, if you could reconsider publishing the article. I will try and get additional indepth articles about him in the meantime. Thank you in advance and best regards --Bffozurich (talk) 08:07, 15 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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Hebron Presbyterian Church, Banks County, Georgia[edit]

Dear Editor, I feel that I have complied with your suggested changes in the article and I also feel that this is a worthwhile and noteworthy subject that complies with your standards. The, "Hebron Church, Cemetery, and Academy" is already included on "Wikipedia" and my article for submission would expand this information to the public.William Groves Carson (talk) 01:49, 8 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Seeking feedback on declined AfC[edit]

I was wondering if I could get clarification on the declining of the UFC AfC beyond a referral to WP:NOT, which appears somewhat ambiguous when there are over 150 related articles in the same subset as UFC 155 with an established linking template, and approximately 18 different guidelines at WP:NOT. If further action than an AfC needs to be taken in order to overturn an AfD ruling, I would certainly understand that, but that was not the given reason. If I could receive clarification on which of the approximately 18 guidelines under WP:NOT that the article fails, I would be grateful as that would be of much constructive help. I spent around 15 hours on the article over the course of several weeks and sought neutral review through Wikipedia's (English-language) public help chatroom to help improve the article, so I hope you understand why it is important to me to know where I erred. Beansy (talk) 23:37, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

D'oh. Missed the comment beneath the templates. While waiting for a UFC event to happen before making an article happen is not in accordance with past informal protocol, as the UFC has an approximately 99.5% batting average when it comes to not canceling events (one canceled event out of over 200 held), I understand that this a political hot potato right now, and that the card itself is subject to change as I have been diligently recording, and thus might be best to wait until an RfC is established on MMA guidelines that are currently in negotiations at WP:MMA (the new guidelines are being negotiated prior to launching an official RfC) to create articles prior to MMA sports events. The RfC may or may not establish inherent notability for all numbered UFC events, but I guess that is unclear at the moment. Beansy (talk) 23:58, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]


WP:CRYSTAL avs5221(talk|contrib) 23:41, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

I just saw you comment beneath the templates at the UFC 155 AfC and was rescinding my comment above as you wrote this. My mistake, sorry. Beansy (talk) 23:48, 16 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]