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Gatwick Airport[edit]

Hi! I decided to read your edit summary

Now, I'm afraid I'm going to have to revert your changes.

  • 1. "Western GeCo HQ location at LGW is coincidental " - IMO that is not a good justification for removing it. Wikipedia should report on coincidences. It doesn't matter if WesternGeco doesn't do aviation. They are a notable company. They lease space from Gatwick. They pay money to sit in Gatwick's facilities. They have a nice, cozy relationship. I think we need to state that this relationship exists, yes?
  • 2. "Caledonian/BCal also had LGW HQs/*" No, that doesn't mean you don't report on Laker Airways. It means you add BCal and provide a source saying why

WhisperToMe (talk) 21:03, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

And I found a Property Week article stating that Schlumberger had extended its lease on the building at the Gatwick airport property in 2007, and some supporting information (initial cost of lease, size of Schlumberger House, years that lease covers). With a secondary source reporting on it, it means that more importance can be attached to the information. WhisperToMe (talk) 21:35, 12 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Ah, your message to me was posted on my user page, and not my user talk page, so I wasn't notified when you posted the message. I proceeded to move it to the talk page. I will post a reply addressing it here. WhisperToMe (talk) 04:35, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Reply to your comments[edit]

1. "There may be loads of relatively small such companies that are located on or near various airport premises;" - Firstly, "near" would be excluded. The building is a part of the actual Gatwick portfolio. Secondly, WesternGeco is not a small company. It is a major subsidiary of the Schlumberger corporation, which is headquartered in Houston, my hometown. WesternGeco is not a small business, and it's not small potatoes.

2. "Where do you draw the line, especially when adding this information to an already very comprehensive and detailed article such as the one about Gatwick Airport?" - I include a company if it has a Wikipedia article (passes the notability guideline for companies) and if the facility is clearly on the property of the said airport and if there is a reliable source saying the company is based there. Also, the information is more important when secondary sources talk about it. Consequently I found a secondary source that discussed the details of WesternGeco's leasing at Gatwick Airport.

3. "In Gatwick's case in particular there are/have been a number of other non-aviation firms on or near its premises that, as to the best of my knowledge, did not locate themselves there primarily because of the airport, including for example CP Ships (a container shipping company that was taken over by Hapag Lloyd a few years ago) and the investment arms of several banks such as RBS for instance." - Again, "near" wouldn't be good enough for being included in the Gatwick article. The head office has to be a part of the airport property. Also if any of these companies wouldn't pass the notability criteria and get their own Wikipedia articles, they wouldn't be included either. The only non-aviation business at Gatwick I know of is Schlumberger. Also there has to be a source saying "the head office is on the property of Gatwick airport"

4. As for CP Ships, I'm going to check web.archive.org and see if it has any records of having a UK office.

WhisperToMe (talk) 04:39, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, I found more companies, but CP Ships, GB Airways, and maybe some others were all based out of the same complex, City Place Gatwick. I'm looking for reliable sources about the development, which now has its own section at Gatwick Airport. Once it becomes became too big, it will be was split into a new article just about City Place Gatwick. The CAA and WesternGeco are not at City Place Gatwick, but at other office buildings at Gatwick. WhisperToMe (talk) 05:26, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
If we can get enough material to split off a "facilities" section into an overview of all of the facilities at Gatwick Airport, I would be in favor of the move :)
About "BUA (1968-70), Air Couriers, Lloyd International, Overseas Aviation, Transglobe and, more recently, CityFlyer Express? This info is actually available in the relevant airline articles" - I'll check flightglobal.com and see if they have records of the head offices. WhisperToMe (talk) 19:39, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Some anonymous user named User:82.44.98.11 had removed some of the info. I told him that the article needs to discuss the office leasing aspect of Gatwick, but once the section becomes too big, it can be split into a new section. WhisperToMe (talk) 19:46, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Air Couriers, Transglobe, and Overseas Aviation do not have Wikipedia articles. Lloyd International was at Stansted Airport. I found secondary RSes that discuss BUA moving into Gatwick and the acquisition leading to BCal (that article stated that BCal was going to be at Gatwick). Also I found the source saying that CityFlyer Express was at Gatwick. WhisperToMe (talk) 20:02, 13 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

your critcism of my edits to Dan-Air[edit]

I have replied at my talkpage. But I will just state here and now that the scrolling list of citations cannot stand in any article because of the incompatiblity problems with certain browsers. GraemeLeggett (talk) 16:34, 21 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

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Dan-Air[edit]

I have reverted back the article to its last clean version. With this edit you show that you have no will in understanding all the concerns many users have raised at the article's talk page regarding citation overkill for the current version. Besides that, you provided no edit summary for the reversion of the improvements User:Diannaa made to the article, and I'll take it as a violation of WP:AGF. The next time you or your sockpuppetry actions make such changes I'll be reporting you to an admin.--Jetstreamer Talk 20:47, 16 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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