User talk:DuncanHill/Archive3

Disambiguation

Hi, still a novice so trying to learn - thanks for advice re disambiguation, have just checked round Wikipedia and worked out what it means! Will observe in future . JVSmithson 23:54, 1 October 2007 (UTC)

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Thanks

thanks for reverting the vandal, Jimfbleak 12:24, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

he's now been blocked indefinitely by another admin. Jimfbleak 12:27, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

Another thank you: Georgia On My Mind

Thanks for reminding me that I need to link the U.S. state of Georgia correctly to disambiguate it from the Eurasian country of Georgia. clariosophic 14:56, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Same here! I guess I wouldn't have noticed my mistake otherwise. Thanks! MRasco 17:02, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks for catching mine! HkCaGu 11:14, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Mirror text?

In case you haven't noticed, the text on this talk page is inexplicably reversed, reads from right to left instead of left to right, similar to DaVinci's mirror-writing, starting at the end of the "Reports" section above. You might want to consider fixing that, and maybe archiving some of this page because it's getting pretty long. Truthanado 22:18, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

The text looks the right way round to me - and others have been leaving messages here without noticing any problem. DuncanHill 22:23, 4 October 2007 (UTC)

My apologies ... I wasn't very specific. On the talk page, it looked okay. When I went to edit the page, it showed mirror-text. I see you have removed/archived and the problem still exists in teh archive, at least when I open it to edit using Firefox. Cheers. Truthanado 06:38, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Hmmm... strange... there is one line of backwards writing in the thread above the reports section - which was deliberate by a new user who was asking me for some help - but I can't see a problem anywhere else (I use Safari on WinXP). DuncanHill 10:22, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

Re:William Golding

Thank you for the message. The Editor changed the birth month, September to June. So I thought it was vandalism. Sorry if I was wrong. Then what was the appropriate warning for the edit? Regards. Oda Mari (talk) 19:04, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Yes! I noticed. I'm so sorry. I reverted the IP user's vandals. So I think I was careless about the edit details. Why can't I stop making stupid mistakes? (sigh) Anyway sorry and thank you. Oda Mari (talk) 19:14, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you for the kind word. FYI, I lined on my waring. Oda Mari (talk) 19:27, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

Georgia (state) on your mind

Thanks for the disambig of Wikipedia:WikiProject National Register of Historic Places/coordsB. I'd forgotten about Georgia. And I know even with the tool that one took a while. (SEWilco 23:47, 5 October 2007 (UTC))

Georgia

Hi DuncanHill, I'm sure it wasn't your intention, but I find your edit summary here to be rather condescending and insulting. You seem to have jumped to the conclusion that an American couldn't possibly have made a simple mistake, but rather must be unaware of the rest of the world. Again, I don't think that it was intentional, but you may want to consider it in the future. We Americans aren't as ignorant as you might think. :) Cheers, faithless (^speak) 23:28, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and thanks for fixing my mistake! :) faithless (^speak) 23:29, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Dabbing I periodically dab "Georgia" and it just came up this time. Thanks for the thanks, Duncan. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 01:54, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Question

Do you folks like coffee? Real coffee from the hills of Columbia? - CHAIRBOY (☎) 01:37, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Which "folks" would you be meaning? DuncanHill 01:38, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

That answers my question, my apologies for the misunderstanding. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 01:41, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

i have no idea what you are on about! DuncanHill 01:42, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

No problem, just a mistake on my part as I mentioned. Best regards, CHAIRBOY (☎) 01:44, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Georgia

Thank you; I will fix that. You guys must be efficient at disambiguating to catch it so quickly. I also realized I need to fix pages like Interstate 695 (District of Columbia) so they read "in the District of Columbia" - or maybe "in D.C.". --NE2 11:31, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

I've fixed it; you may have to do a "null edit" to the pages to purge the cache. --NE2 11:34, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

Category:Homophobia

I noticed that you participated in the recent CfD of the category "Homophobia" [1]. It has been re-nominated for deletion, on the same grounds as before, and I was making sure you had an opportunity to present your interpretation of policy on this matter. The discussion can be found here. Best. --Cheeser1 14:39, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

I hope I am not out of place here. . . I was sorry to see you divorcing yourself from the discussion at Historical pederastic couples. You seem to have a cool head, just the thing needed to offset. . . Haiduc 12:04, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

Fox family of Falmouth

Thanks for supporting this article, which, it is claimed, lacks notability, despite 24 references, four DNB subjects and an MP.

Perhaps the article should not have buried the most approachable and charming members, who wrote Journals for us, under yards of great grandparents. Someone suggested the Fry family (chocolate) for deletion, recently, so it looks like family history may be targetted by the zeitgeist . . .

Vernon White ^{. . . Talk} 22:02, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks for the welcome, and the good wishes. :) Right now I'm just trying to procrastinate until the pain of having the teeth in is greater than their removal... okay, maybe I won't wait that much. :P · A Pessimistic Nonconformist? • Talk 23:24, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Interesting, I'll take her advice then. Pessimistic Nonconformist? 23:29, 10 October 2007 (UTC)

Steve Walsh (rugby)

Hi, we 'edit conflicted' on the above article, though with the same intentions. I've over written your changes with mine, I see you've edited your link back in so sorry for that. I was only trying to remove the narrative pov commentary from the article. Cheers —Preceding unsigned comment added by Khukri (talk • contribs) 20:23, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

No problem! DuncanHill 21:04, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

Your post at ANI

I think most admins would commend you for seeking clarification on the proper way to go about things round here. The point being made was that you chose the wrong forum - WP:ANI, when WP:AN is more appropriate. It's not a big deal, just that ANI is more of a workshop for dealing with incidents, while AN has a much broader remit. --Dweller 11:53, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Gosh, you do sound down. I think you've been very unfortunate if you feel this way, as most admins I've come across are very helpful and kind. ANI is quite a high-stress board, by its very nature, so you could have come across an unrepresentative sample. There's also probably an element of grumpily assuming that everyone's read the lengthy header at the top of the page, which tries to explain where to post. When I was a newbie, I posted umpteen times to the admins noticeboards before I even realised there was such a header, lol. I might also gently suggest that you have WikiStress anyway, connected with the reason for your post at ANI in the first place, and you're therefore taking a dimmer view of admins' helpfulness than you would if you were your usual self... :-) --Dweller 12:25, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

<taking a deep breath>

1. No-one would support personal attacks
2. Post me a personal attack diff/s and I will step in for you, if you like
3. Not templating the regulars is more of a courtesy thing than a guideline etc. It makes sense, especially for the templates that begin "Welcome..." etc
4. Leaving aside the specifics of this case, (I can understand you not wishing dialogue with someone you've found unpleasant) with regulars, AGF tells you to assume they know the policies and guidelines, so contraventions have either been a mistake or done on purpose for good reason. Establishing which of these it is, is far better done by proper conversation.
5. Here's some patronising advice (sorry) when you're WikiStressed, WP:TEA is well-worth re-reading.

Anyway, smile... you're one of the good guys. And I've watched enough movies to know that good ultimately prevails. Except in some horror films, but let's ignore them... it's not Halloween yet. --Dweller 12:43, 16 October 2007 (UTC) Before I became an admin, when I had a problem, I'd often look for help by seeking out an active admin, by looking at recent changes and finding someone who'd done a deletion. Over time, I built up recognition of the names of admins who I found helpful. --Dweller 13:22, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Hamfisted attempt to bring cheer

Hi Duncan. You seemed a little down - perhaps this would cheer you up? Or this or this? Neil ☎ 14:25, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Sometimes the reminder that "administrators are just ordinary editors", unfortunately, goes both ways. Nobody's perfect. I am sorry that you have lost faith. Please try and bear in mind that there are very few people acting off anything other than best intentions - a lack of experience or competence should not be mixed up with actually wanting to do the wrong thing. I can't really add more than that. Neil ☎ 14:38, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

Recent developments

I've rangeblocked 67.55.0.0/18 (block range · block log (global) · WHOIS (partial)) for 15 minutes, should slow down our new friend for a bit. I'll try and keep an eye out, but feel free to let me know if they return. – Luna Santin (talk) 00:32, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Thanks

Ta (but it was amusing) LessHeard vanU 12:22, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Hello

Thanks for your message. Thought I'd give this Wikipedia thing a go....

Yes

...although my technique is rather trial and error...hopefully I'll get the hang! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Carmenelectra (talk • contribs) 14:45, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Trivia

Hi. I just read your thoughts on trivia and I was wondering if you would be interested in this.

Here is a wikiproject proposal for trivia and a fresh look at trivia policy by the admins. Support the wikiproject proposal. Add your name to the list here: [wiki project proposal for wikitrivia]

Please send this link to other users that you feel would be interested. Thanks Ozmaweezer 14:51, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

a-ha!

Carmenelectra 14:52, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Feel free

...I'm sure I'll cock up so do your best to save me! Carmenelectra 15:06, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

The boldness & blocklog of Feline1

Dear Duncan, further to your comments about me on User:ScienceApologist's page,

with reference to my block for being cheeky to User:Mongvras in the Cornish Language article, which you were a party to, my take on it is that I stepped in after over a week of tedious and damaging edit warring about orthography, with teeny bit of WP:POINT, which, in broad consensus of all the editors involved, produced many much-needed belly laughs and effectively ended the edit war. The editorial consensus always was and remains against Mongvras' partisan edits. I would contend that far from being disruptive, my intervention was actually productive, helping resolve and diffuse the situation.

I was also a year or two ago given a 3RR block when edit warring broke out on the Velikovsky article. In retrospect, I half suspect this was, ironically, due to some earlier incarnation of ScienceApologist and his delightful editing approach. 'Go', on might indeed say, 'figure'.

With regards any silly bickering with teenagers whilst editing pop music articles, I do try to keep this to a minimum these days, but moreover I believe the teenagers generally like it anyway (in fact User:Crestville frankly said as much!).

Probably my least defensible stroppyness was some arguments a couple of years ago on Group 3 element, but we all lose patience occasionally. Moreover I have made solid contributions to several chemistry articles, such as allotrope and key sections of arguably the most central article of all, Periodic Table...

Without (well, actually, with) wanting to blow my own trumpet, I am basically retorting to your personal attack on me by saying: (i) my endeavours as an editor are of a high quality, fact-based and of neutral POV (ii) it takes two to edit war, and although I have at times been sucked into them, it is never something I have sought, unlike some people I could mention... (iii) if the legal process of Britain has any merit at all, you will note that previous convictions are not revealed to prejudice the verdicts when weighing up anything new: any incident should be taken on its own merits. I grow weary of Admins saying "oh, look at Feline1's bad history" and using that as a mandate for cruel and unusual punishments. It is not a valid approach. Some editors might seek to censor things they don't like from their talk pages, or indulge in multiple sock puppets, so as to always appear to present a clean slate to the naive observer. Would it be simpler if i just did the same? Regards, your fellow Brighton resident, --feline1 20:49, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Help needed

{{helpme}} Can someone please help User:Carmenelectra change her name? Admin Irishguy has blocked her for a username violation, and is not responding to requests for him to help her comply. DuncanHill 00:12, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I left a link to WP:CHANGE on that user's page. They just need to follow that process. Hope that helps. - Rjd0060 00:37, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Great. I just left a message telling them they could email me and I would help them set up a new account, but since they are not blocked anymore, there should be no problem. - Rjd0060 00:40, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I agree. I don't know if you saw my comment about that admin on User talk:Carmenelectra but I just said I am not surprised that he was the one to do the block. - Rjd0060 00:47, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

At the rate he's going, I'll probably get blocked for it. - Rjd0060 00:50, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

I have made several reports to ANI and they have all been resolved in what I think is a proper way. Some admins have a huge head. I just nominated myself in RfA last night, and withdrew this morning. LOL. Got some good feedback though. - Rjd0060 00:58, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

And IMO, I would prefer to get a level 1 warning than a level 3+ (block warning). Does it really matter? Why do people get so mad for getting a "Welcome to Wikipedia" message? I've had the same problem before, but I didn't get "yelled at" by admin. - Rjd0060 00:59, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Agree with you there. I will definitely be trying another RFA sometime within the next 6 months or so. Some admins are great, while others are .....well.....not. - Rjd0060 01:10, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

No problem, it's what I'm here for. :-) You did a great job helping her, I really hope she stays. Love, Neranei (talk) 01:35, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Klawans

I've not heard of him, but I had to do my pennance for having a faulty reference at Causes and origins of Tourette syndrome; I should go back in history and figure out how I let that happen :-) Regards, SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:07, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Edit summary

Hi - "The comment from DuncanHill was unhelpful" - which comment - "remove picture of person unconnected with subject"? How is this unhelpful? DuncanHill 12:19, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Sorry I meant the comment from JWiamlmeysTNUC (talk)--Meanlevel 12:20, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Mona Lisa twirl

I agree it is a helpful image, but its creator is User:EditorInTheRye, not me. Thanks for the welcome message! Oblomow 13:09, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Can you tell me where my country lies?

I've had "Dancing with the Moonlit Knight" in my head all afternoon (GMT+5) because of your earlier edit summary on the RD/M question about dogs howling at the moon. I'm not sure if I should thank you or shun you :-) --LarryMac | Talk 19:49, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Easy now - there's the safe way home...--feline1 22:29, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

Please help

Dear Mr. Hill,

First of all, thank you for the welcome letter! I have been a Wikipedia contributor for a short time, and I already have questions. As you may have noticed in my account, I have recently uploaded two documents into Wikipedia (Haider A. Khan, and Theory of Deep Democracy); however, when I try to search for these topics on one of the major search engines (i.e. Yahoo or Google), the links to Wikipedia never come up. Could you please tell me if there is a way to make my entries in Wikipedia available through these search engines. I might have missed a step as I was setting up the entries, but I cannot figure out what I did wrong. Thank you for your assistance.

Sincerely, --DenverU 05:22, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

medicine on the Ref Desk

With regard to your comments at Wikipedia:Reference desk/Science#Anomalous hair, would you consider moving them to the talk page of the Ref Desk instead? I have started a discussion thread there; it's not really a good idea to try to slug out questions of appropriateness on the Desk itself. (Discussions on the Desk have a nasty habit of turning into arguments laced with incivility and namecalling which we would all rather avoid.) TenOfAllTrades(talk) 15:56, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Incidentally, I think that all of the questions that you suggested –

What causes blue eyes? What causes grey hair? Why does alcohol abuse cause liver damage?

– would be legitimate, valid Ref Desk questions. The question that was asked was removed because the poster identified himself as having a particular symptom, and sought a diagnosis for it. If any questions that are simply about medicine are removed, let me know and I'll have words with the parties involved. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 15:59, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

So I have blue eyes, what causes this? wouldn't be. DuncanHill 16:05, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

You know, you've successfully found a gray area. I'd certainly prefer your first formulation of the question to the second. And obviously a question like My eyes used to be brown but have turned blue, what caused this? would be right out. Unfortunately, those aren't the questions asked, so I can't duck the answer. I'd probably sincerely hope that someone gave a succinct pointer to eye color and left well enough alone from there. I could make an argument that 'blue eyes' aren't an unusual or abnormal condition, and that it therefore wasn't really a 'symptom', nor was the poster seeking a diagnosis. But I agree that it's a messy area open to subjective interpretation.

If the question comes up, I'd welcome the discussion on the Ref Desk talk page. TenOfAllTrades(talk) 16:28, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Alaska Green

Thanks. I, too, was just venting some real world stress into the RD. I'm glad your shoulders are broad. best, --Tagishsimon (talk) 16:51, 31 October 2007 (UTC)

Comment moved from Userpage

This is shad Gaspard BKBEAST13. Stop editing my page. Fans send me so many questions on my myspace so I decided to just answer allot of there question by updating on wikipedia. So pleas stop changing my shit. If you need to find out if this is me or no go to my myspae and send me a note titled WIKIPEDIA. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bkbeast13 (talk • contribs)

Re: User:Saga City/UK&I completeness check

No problems at all with you updating this. In the long run it's meant to have no red-links and no links to disambig pages to make it an anti-deletion check. Best Wishes Saga City 17:22, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Yes. Hope you are well

Vernon White ^{. . . Talk} 19:45, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Carlton jakes

A tag has been placed on Carlton jakes requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is notable: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not assert the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable, as well as our subject-specific notability guideline for biographies.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, you may contest the deletion by adding {{hangon}} to the top of the article (just below the existing speedy deletion or "db" tag), coupled with adding a note on the article's talk page explaining your position, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the article meets the criterion it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. Toohool 03:16, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

Potentially useful site: Packet Service

Hi, have you found this site? Falmouth Packet Archives? I've just come across it, and it looks like it could be useful. DuncanHill 23:07, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Yeah. But I think I need to have a better understanding of the non-Falmouth part of the service. Had lunch today at the Bell Court Deli, formerly the Packet serrvice Agent's Office . . . Looking at Mineralization at the moment. . . . Also caught up in the History of Falmouth College of Art. . . perhaps I need a wikibreak. too many lines of enquiry. Hope all is well with you. Best Vernon --Vernon White ^{. . . Talk} 23:15, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Cornwall people/ Mineralization

Hi Vernon, just thought you might be interested in this userpage I have made. It is a (partial) list of people connected with Cornwall who are in ODNB but do not yet have Wikipedia articles. I have started with people whose ODNB articles mention Royal Geological Society of Cornwall, Royal Cornwall Polytechnic Society or the Royal Institution of Cornwall. I have also ensured that existing Wikipedia articles of people whose ODNB articles mention these institutions are appropriately linked. User:DuncanHill/Cornwall People. DuncanHill 01:17, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. Can you tell me whether Mineralization (geology) and Ore genesis should be merged? --Vernon White ^{. . . Talk} 10:34, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

St Neot move

I'm sure moves are aloud to take place if they should not be controversial. Btw, be careful when you are making the dabs as some of them actually seem to refer to Saint Neot the person, not St Neot the place. Simply south (talk) 19:29, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

That's okay and don't worry about it. Also, the reason i stopped correcting links much earlier in the day was that sometimes it takes quite a long time Special:Whatlinkshere to realise that links on templates have been changed. Therefore i was waiting a while for this to correct before i could see what links there are left over to be changed. Simply south (talk) 20:10, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Joseph Henry Collins

I was just trying out the patrolling of new pages Special:Newpages, it seems like every new page needs to be approved now. So I added a reference and marked it patrolled! Regards Voorlandt (talk) 23:42, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Arthur Douglas Merriman

Dr Arthur Douglas Merriman of the Ministry of Supply was awarded the George Cross on the 3rd of December 1940 [2].

As you requested. Lara❤Love 19:11, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Arthur Douglas Merriman

The page was put up for deletion because there was no content. Removing speedy tags is against wiki policy. If you disagree with the tag then use the {{hang on}} tag. If you have a problem with admin's actions, contact the admin concerned directly. Thanks Hammer1980·^talk 19:12, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

you are incorrect when you claim that removing speedy tags is against wikipolicy. I was not the original creator, so hangon would have been inappropriate. DuncanHill (talk) 19:27, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

I had just written a reply several lines long and posted to this page. However it was lost as you had replied here after replying on my talk page. I cannot be bothered to type it out again. I know you were not the original creator now, I didn't notice at the time. Please stop labouring the point. Matter closed as far as I'm concerned. Regards Hammer1980·^talk 19:40, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

It's SO easy to confuse "Nick mallory" with "DuncanHill", especially when you have already posted to Nick's talk page about this very subject - happens all the time! DuncanHill (talk) 19:44, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Firstly, I used Twinkle which automatically sends the notice to the original creator, and secondly I was away from the computer for a time and when I returned I had a message, which I mistakenly assumed was from the original creator. Thirdly, no need for sarcasm. Please adhere to WP:AGF. Hammer1980·^talk 19:48, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Just like you assumed good faith when accusing me of a breach of wikipolicy? I'm not accusing you of bad faith, just of not bothering to check your facts before making accusations, which is another matter entirely. I only posted to you originally out of a sense of politeness (I was disagreeing with an action of yours), you responded by falsely accusing me of breaking policy. Guess what? I get upset by that! DuncanHill (talk) 19:52, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

You originally posted disagreeing with the actions of an admin, asking what you could do about it. I advised you of wiki policy in the process of explaining what you could do, thinking I was talking to the article's creator. I posted in good faith. I didn't falsely accuse you of anything. If I had issued a warning you would have a very valid point, and I would understand you feeling aggrieved. However, I didn't. Good luck with the article.Hammer1980·^talk 20:11, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

Merriman

Do you want help in creating a stub on him. You can use my sandbox if you want. I am starting one now, I don't want to duplicate any attempt you are making though. Woodym555 (talk) 19:34, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

George Cross

Thanks for your note, I appreciate it. I don't mind a little frank discussion so I'm not stressed at all if people are offering me suggestions. I'm sure they're only seeking to improve wikipedia, as I am. I'm rubbish at categories, so if you could add one or two to the articles I've been writing - from the List of George Cross recipients - that would be great. Nick mallory (talk) 04:52, 19 November 2007 (UTC)