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2nd warning. See the talk page and start discussing.04:51, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

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Hi there,

I notice that a few edits I've corrected for NPOV recently all happen to have been by you; specifically, would you mind not using the scare quotes when you write about same-sex marriage? It just makes it so much harder to track down the edits and fix them, since I can't search on the term in scare quotes without getting a lot of results for the term not in scare quotes. ;)

Roscelese (talkcontribs) 19:35, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

hi Roscelese. I made a couple edits to Jaime Soto. Point taken on the scare quotes; sorry i was quoting the article.

1. Soto is against abortion and contraception so should we call it as such. Reproductive rights is not an easily defined term and can mean a lot of things. Why go to the non-specific when we have specific defined terms. Is Soto against all the items included as "reproductive rights" listed below?

The wiki entry on "reproductive Rights" states: "Reproductive rights may include some or all of the following: the right to legal or safe abortion, the right to birth control, the right to access quality reproductive healthcare, and the right to education and access in order to make reproductive choices free from coercion, discrimination, and violence.[7] Reproductive rights may also include the right to receive education about contraception and sexually transmitted infections, and freedom from coerced sterilization, abortion, and contraception, and protection from gender-based practices such as female genital cutting (FGC) and male genital mutilation (MGM)."

2. Soto has spoken against the homosexual lifestyle as a sin and not homosexuality. This is a very important distinction and standard doctrine of the Catholic Church.

Catechism of the Catholic Church: Chastity and homosexuality 2359 Homosexual persons are called to chastity. By the virtues of self-mastery that teach them inner freedom, at times by the support of disinterested friendship, by prayer and sacramental grace, they can and should gradually and resolutely approach Christian perfection.

1. Since it mentioned both abortion and contraception, my change to "reproductive rights" was mostly to shorten the laundry list rather than for POV reasons; however, we would still have to say "abortion rights" and "contraception rights" because the groups do not actually advocate abortions or contraception, they just think people should be able to use them if they want to.
2. The "homosexual lifestyle" is a term used pretty much solely by opponents of gay rights that we should avoid in encyclopedic prose. Can we either put it in a quote (eg. "Soto said, 'the homosexual lifestyle is sinful and therefore no civil rights for you'") or find a neutral way of conveying the information?
Would you mind implementing some of these compromises, or should I?
cheers, Roscelese (talkcontribs) 10:51, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. I changed it a little more, hope it looks good. Roscelese (talkcontribs) 05:49, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Multiple citizenship article[edit]

I made this edit today, which involved cite-supported material contributed by you. Separately, I exampled that edit in a response here in a discussion on WT:NPOV. I hope that is not too cryptic; you'll need to look at the wikilinks to get a feel for what I'm on about.

Anyhow, my response and the responded-to point at WT:NPOV were pretty off-topic for the discussion there. I'm afraid, though, that my response came off as quite critical of your insertion (more critical, I see on re-reading, than I initially thought it to be). if you have followon discussion re my edit to the Multiple citizenship, I'd appreciate it if you would place it on the article talk page or, alternatively, on one of our two talk pages to avoid defocusing the discussion at WT:NPOV where I made my response to the mostly offtopic comment there. Cheers. Wtmitchell (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 23:39, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

Following RSs[edit]

By all means, report whatever the RSs say. I think that was done, but see that one of the refs cannot now be read, and others are further down in the para--so I've added some more. You can answer here if you have any comments/questions. Best.--Epeefleche (talk) 05:12, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

You can answer here if you have any comments/questions. The article says precisely what the refs say. That is how wiki operates. I'll look at the article more tomorrow--but if I deleted a ref that he was not religious that was sourced, I'll revert that. You are engaging in OR ... we follow the sources ... and please note that one used later in the para even has a habit of asking the player or his rep if he wants to be reflected as such, and only reflects them if they say yes.
BTW ... you can post here if you want to discuss further. I will watch your page.--Epeefleche (talk) 05:31, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

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Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about living persons, as you did to Carl Kruger, Leonardo DiCaprio and List of Jewish American politicians. Thank you. Jayjg (talk) 16:30, 22 December 2011 (UTC)

By the same token, please don't delete relevant RS-supported information regarding people being Jewish, as you did here.--Epeefleche (talk) 01:22, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
I see you did it again. A few points. First, the article is about him -- not his parents. For you to delete that he is Jewish, because we discuss that his parents are Jewish, is bass ackwards. Second, it is OR on your point that because his parents are Jewish, so is he. Third, we have a source identifying him as Jewish -- please stop deleting what it supports. Fourth, some people are born Jewish, but choose not to be Jewish any longer, and convert out, so it is of relevance not just what he was born (if we accept your OR as acceptable, which it isn't). Fifth, coupled with the above comment by a sysop, I'm concerned that you seem to not "get it" with the subject being people being Jewish -- yet again.--Epeefleche (talk) 15:13, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
wow, you do not need to get so angry. First, please folow protocol and start a new topic on someon'e talk page and not link to something nearly two year's old; also list the name of the article at issue (Nelson Peltz. My edit was because the sentence you wrote was awkward: "Peltz is Jewish and was raised in a Jewish family" If someone's parents are ethnically Jewish than of course, their child is ethnically Jewish (this is not OR). There is nothing that indicates that he is religiously Jewish (and to assert requires such requires strong proof per wikipedia guidelines) so would you not be doing OR to claim as much. However, being ethnically Jewish does not require such proof. Anyhow, I am fine with your new edit but please, there is no need to get so hostile and vulgar. I am not sure what you mean about sysop. JayJ corrected me when I assumed an article referring to someone as "Jewish" did not mean that his religion was Judaism since it could mean that his ethnicity was Jewish.Patapsco913 (talk) 16:16, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
I'm disturbed when I see such edits following similarly disturbing edits. And I see the focus of the sysop's warning and my concern as related. Hence, my post of my comment in the same section. Also, I already linked to the article -- there is no need for me to in addition to the link indicate its name, as that is easily known by following the link. Third, if you find that RS-supported text is, in your personal view, awkward, I believe that it would be better for you to retain the RS-supported text and smooth out the awkwardness, through normal copy-editing, rather than (twice) deleted the RS-supported text. Furthermore, the text states that he is Jewish. And the article is about him. First order of business is to reflect that. That is what is needed, for example, to put him in the "Jewish" cat. It is absurd IMHO to focus on whether his parents are Jewish, and delete the RS-supported fact that he is Jewish. I apologize if you found my comment vulgar. I admit I was concerned by what I saw as a similarly questionable edit, again, with the focus being on Jews. But fyi, I did hold back and seek to discuss the matter, rather than simply leave a template warning. Many thanks for discussing it.--Epeefleche (talk) 18:11, 3 October 2013 (UTC)

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Hello, what are your sources for the birth years of Jerry Speyer's children? Graham87 06:19, 7 May 2013 (UTC)

I used their age at the time of their wedding notification in the NY TimesPatapsco913 (talk)

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James M. Nederlander and Robert Nederlander[edit]

Dear Patapsco913,

It struck me that James M. Nederlander has the intro and infobox of Robert Nederlander. Surely, that's a mistake, right? I added a {{disputed}} tag for this; if it's fixed, feel free to remove that. QVVERTYVS (hm?) 16:47, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

Thanks! I had a little mix-up there between the father James M. and son James L. Patapsco913 (talk)
The intro still seems incorrect; it says Robert E. Nederlander (trivial to fix) and the birth date contradicts the infobox (less trivial, so I'll leave it to you). QVVERTYVS (hm?) 17:21, 4 August 2013 (UTC)

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What changes are you opposed to? I didn't make any major changes, just tweaked some of the text. Please don't do a blanket revert, because I think a lot of the changes improve the page. Plot Spoiler (talk) 03:37, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
well perhaps others disagree. that is why we have a talk page. Everything you took out has a citation. Why would you take out the reference to Avi Tiomkin where he got his start? or that he started out by analyzing Israeli companies; or that his wife's mother introduced him to Avi. These are all important facts to show how he started out.Patapsco913 (talk)

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DYK[edit]

Hi, would you mind if I nominated Steven Roth for DYK? Thanks, Matty.007 19:09, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

No problemPatapsco913 (talk) 19:11, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks. The nom is at this page. Thanks, Matty.007 19:28, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
Would you mind if I also nominated Joseph Chetrit for DYK? Thanks, Matty.007 11:46, 27 October 2013 (UTC)

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Hi Patapsco913 and thank for your work on Wikipedia! I've noticed that you frequently edit pages of many Jews, and therefore I thought I should recommend you this: The website jinfo.org provides "an online resource that accurately describes the Jewish contribution to the cultural, scientific, and technological evolution of civilization." However, the wiki articles of a lot of Jews from these lists don't even mention the that the person is Jewish. So if you have time and like to do it, you could go over the names their and add the proper Jewish categories or Jewish connection in their articles, unless it's already there of course. I'm not sure if jinfo.org itself can be used as a reliable source, but it cites other sources and there're plenty of other websites on the web that confirm these people's Jewishness. Regards, Yambaram (talk) 07:04, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

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Two minor things[edit]

Hi and thank you for your contribution. I just wanted to let you know that Wikipedia does allow deleting material from one's talk page, which I didn't know before and may have misled you to think otherwise, so I'd like to let you know that you can do it now.. Also, I see that sometimes you don't insert citations the proper way in articles you edit, so in case you haven't found this option yet, the easiest way to do it is by clicking on "cite", then "template", then choosing the correct option and finishing it up. Regards, Yambaram (talk) 19:01, 4 January 2014 (UTC)

Nomination of Henry Moskowitz (real estate investor) for deletion[edit]

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The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Henry Moskowitz (real estate investor) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 16:14, 6 January 2014 (UTC)

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RE: Kurt Rappaport[edit]

Hi, I have removed the mention of a marriage from the article for two reasons. First and foremost, the source that you are providing does not make any reference to their relationship, nor does it provide proof that they are married. Thus, the inclusion of this material does not meet our BLP policy. Second, through OTRS ticket # 2014011010001121 we have received sufficient proof that Kurt is not married to Juliette. (If you wish to verify this information, you may make a request at the OTRS noticeboard.) Because of the nature of the proof, it cannot be posted to Wikipedia. I have tried to look for reliable third party sources that mention his marriage and/or his divorce and was not able to find anything credible. Thus, I removed the mention of marriage in the article and did not address the divorce in the article due to a lack of the proper sources. If you have any questions, please let me know. Mike VTalk 20:59, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

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Matthew Karatz[edit]

Hi, I removed the statement that he is Jewish because you didn't provide a source and I didn't see one in the body of the article that supports it. —rybec 00:51, 20 January 2014 (UTC)

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