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This article is not blatant advertising. Please reconsider.Dr. Steven Lee Berman (talk) 10:58, 3 November 2013 (UTC)

Dear Community Member:

The article submitted is not blatant advertising. On the contrary, this article references a notable non-profit entity operating in Canada and the US which makes no money and simply illustrates an educational approach to inspiring next generation innovators. This educational non-profit is recognized by NASA for its innovative methodology and curriculum approach which is supporting unique STEM+ARTS +MOVEMENT education. The article defines the foundation of the approach, highlights two notable individuals in the process and provides others with the ability to access information about the organization.

The bottom line is that if this article was blatant advertising then it would not address a non-profit organization.

Please reconsider and make any recommendations which you deem appropriate to enable publication of the article.

Thank you for your reconsideration.

DIGIVATIONS INSTITUTE

List of Performance Poets

Hi thanks for your comment on my recent edit to "List of Performance Poets." You mentioned adding inappropriate links. Just a bit confused, as I didn't add any links, just several names. I see one of the names, Joanna Hoffman, linked on its own to a different JH page. I didn't see a way to unlink that. That is, I saw no code that could be cut. Should I just remove her name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elizabeth Gordon (talkcontribs) 15:56, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

The message I left you referred to your addition of self promotional links to Cohoes, New York Wikipedia considers it spam when you do this. Likewise it's not a good idea to add wikilinks to yourself, if you are truely notable someone else will write an article about you. Theroadislong (talk) 16:01, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

Clacton By-election (Apolitical Website Record of ) Campaign

If anything, the Edit Removal can be seen as a restriction of 1st amendment free speech.

"An article can report objectively about such things, as long as an attempt is made to describe the topic from a neutral point of view."

This has been done.

My edit was ... "To preserve by-election local debate, hustings and canvass photos for history, across all party lines, a Labour Canvasser in the Ian Gow Eastbourne By-election, Neil Humphrey has set up a Clacton Byelection website www.clactonbyelection.com [44]"

This is a factual statement.

I am setting up an apolitical website, from a neutral point of view; and will be doing this for all by-elections. If wikipedia instead want to create a "detailed campaign photos / leaflets" page, I have no objection to that.

It's important that Wikipedia remains a factual news summary, distant from detailed debate and blog.

However, that doesn't detract from similar need for a site to record all points of view from that period. Otherwise these facts are simply lost because they don't make a newspaper front-page headline or only page 23.

Its important that elections are preserved as a factual historical record. That is not to say you agree either way, but that is a leaflet delivered, these are the people that helped.

From a democratic point of view, wouldn't it be great to have an Ed Balls leafletting for the conservatives, we know he was in them at uni. He say's that was for access to debates, others like me suspect just trying to get on, regardless of party. Having somewhere to go, to verify XYZ was at a campaign is factual.

For a similar theme, we can assume Marin Luther King's speech needs to be excluded, because it related to a dream he had, and therefore wasn't factual.

Please re-instate my edit, and if someone complains, or re-edits that it is commercial promotion or non-apolitical, then review.

I am hoping to get my website fully function by Tuesday using Drupal. The technology takes time.

The wikipedia on 1990 Eastbourne Byelection is just a summary... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastbourne_by-election,_1990 It does not reflect events or debate in sufficient detail from that period and that location. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clactonbyelection (talkcontribs) 12:57, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Strange how this "apolitical site" redirects to a UKIP site. --NeilN talk to me 13:09, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
The above is not true. It redirects to THE UKIP site! Either our blocked friend has spelt his own website wrong or he's trying aimlessly to promote UKIP by the back door '''tAD''' (talk) 15:29, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

deleted links

again you deleted my links. This time is was from FAU library. I happen to work at FAU so having external links to the other campuses are valid. Wthowerto (talk) 22:55, 20 September 2014 (UTC)

Please see WP:COI it's considered spamming to add links to your own institutions, Wikipedia is NOT a directory and your links are not required. Theroadislong (talk) 08:00, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

All I want to do is create a book using WikiPedia pages.

I don't know how else to go about it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NEOVETS (talkcontribs) 16:46, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

I think you are in the wrong place then...this is an encyclopedia. Theroadislong (talk) 16:47, 21 September 2014 (UTC)

Theroadisalong

Dear men i have a question how can i make a bio like tristan stephenson thanks bro — Preceding unsigned comment added by Austin11505 (talkcontribs) 09:16, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

promotional material

I added two external links to satellite campuses. How is that promotional material? Wthowerto (talk) 14:24, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Please see my answer to your same question above. Theroadislong (talk) 14:32, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

I never know how to "send" from this iPad . Ruth Stiles Gannett (talk) 19:11, 19 January 2014 (UTC)

Now what?

Ruth Stiles Gannett, mother or daughter:
If you see this, visit the webpage User talk:Ruth Stiles Gannett#Need help with your biography and try to reply there. First select the word "edit" beside that heading.
--P64 (talk) 19:26, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Revisions to Haralson County High School

Thank you for deleting the section about the HOPE Academy from the HCHS page. I was unable to find verifiable information about it online (because the homepage recently changed so the original reference link no longer works), but didn't want to completely remove the section for fear of offending the powers that be (and because I know nothing about it). Although it may not seem like it, I am attempting to clean up the page of my alma mater and make it seem less like it was written by a band parent (e.g. "They compete four times a year and always receive high scores"). I'm trying to base what I add to the entry on what is included in the entries of other high schools in the state and what information is available in newspapers and on the school's website. However, the information available is limited due to the apparent overhaul of the website and I will admit to being biased.

That said, how can I try to eliminate bias in the article? To my untrained eyes, it does not seem any more biased or "like an advertisement" than the page for Duluth High School, for example. What information would you personally consider necessary or unnecessary in an article about a high school? I plan to add a section about the school's history using a book published by the historical society and information from the school's website.

NThomasR (talk) 14:52, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

The article is looking much better now, it would be great if you could add history details referenced to a book. Theroadislong (talk) 15:21, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

I have found an archived article of the General Board of Global Ministries, The United Methodist Church, [1], that does verify details of Dabale's education and career. I've run out of time today to do any more on this article-- do you want to add back education/career sections, or should I take it up tomorrow?

Cheers! — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 21:12, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

Update — I sorted out some (but not all) needed citations. There is also an inconsistency in the sources on whether his D.D. in theology was actually an earned certificate, and the institution later bestowed an honorary doctorate (listed among his awards)? — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 03:16, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
Great to have references but the qualifications seem very minor, diplomas and certificates? and GbarngaSchool of theology seems very obscure too! Theroadislong (talk) 10:45, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
Apparently the Gbarnga School started as a mission of the United Method Church with goals to produce food and employment for the region. See Gbarnga Mission and School of Theology. That history does help explain the odd variety of subjects he studied, and the connection to his commitment to helping people better themselves.
I'll do a bit more searching today to sort out citations for the rest of his credentials. I agree, diplomas and certificates are not very impressive, but in my experience working with students from Africa, accreditation of these institutions is usually handled through government officials in the country's ministry of education. In places like Nigeria, warring factions add another layer of complication to problems of an already politicised situation. Even still, why would he be awarded an honorary D.D. after having earned one?
Yesterday I also found vague references to a controversy near the end of his life that resulted in his being temporarily removed as bishop, then later reinstated. So that should also be included for balance, as the current text seems more like a memorial rather than a neutral bio. — Grand'mere Eugene (talk) 19:24, 27 September 2014 (UTC)

BBC Arabic Television

I don't understand why you should object to my link, as it is the definitive history of what happened to the first version of BBC Arabic Television. The article has never been challenged and was originally published in mainstream media outlets. Ian Richardson I.d.richardson (talk) 13:57, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

It was misplaced with no connection to any text it might be referencing. Adding links to your own websites is not encouraged and is considered spamming. Theroadislong (talk) 13:59, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Missionary links

I'm sorry that you think this is spamming. I would ask you to reconsider. God's Triangle is a factual book about serious issues and has had the backing of Baptist missionary historians. Indeed there are references to it in the history of the Australian Baptist Missionary Society published earlier this year. Ian Richardson I.d.richardson (talk) 14:05, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Baptists

I would urge you to reconsider. God's Triangle is not a novel or a polemic. It is a factual account of a tragic series of events in East Bengal. The book has the backing of Baptist historians who have made contributions to it. I.d.richardson (talk) 14:16, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Charlton Victoria

I have just added a brief history of the town's newspaper. I added links to the obituaries of my parents who were consecutively owners/editors of the newspaper and to the combined newspaper, the North Central News. I don't understand why these links have been deleted as the obituaries contribute a great deal to the town's history and have all been published in the mainstream media. I am aware of the restrictions that you have to apply, but I can't see why you can't link to the obituaries because they happen to be sitting on my website archive. Ian Richardson I.d.richardson (talk) 15:19, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Please read Help:Referencing_for_beginners you added bare in line external links which Wikipedia doesn't use, do your links back up any of the content? If so add them as a reference not an external link, baring in mind your conflict of interest. Theroadislong (talk) 15:26, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Please check your TW CSD notification settings

Because your CSD messages go to the wrong user. This happens because INeverCry created the talkpage of the now blocked user ACADEMIA SCHOOL, so TW sends the CSD message to INeverCry, instead of user:ACADEMIA SCHOOL. Thank you. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 17:39, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up, I wonder how do you nominate for speedy deletion then in a case like this? Theroadislong (talk) 18:30, 28 September 2014 (UTC)
No problem, it was my pleasure. To nominate for CSD in such a case uncheck the box "notify user" on the TW menu. Δρ.Κ. λόγοςπράξις 20:36, 28 September 2014 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar
Thanks for being the first to spot vandalism on my Userpage! Mirror Freak My Guestbook 14:04, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Removed picture

Why did you remove the picture I added to Ender's Game. (Not meaning to sound mean)Mirror Freak My Guestbook 15:28, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

It was a photograph of a typing error in a book, Wikipedia doesn't encourage the addition of trivia like this. Theroadislong (talk) 15:36, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
(sorry) I'm not sure what you mean.Mirror Freak My Guestbook 15:38, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
See WP:TRIVIA Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Theroadislong (talk) 15:43, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
Ahhh. I see what you mean. Thanks!Mirror Freak My Guestbook 15:46, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

Islamic Online University

Hello, I'm not trying to edit or delete any legitimate content of the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Islamic_Online_University The information present on the talk page is the presentation of strongly opinionated person that views legitimate and harmful libraries as some sort of extremist pages.

If you have a suggestion how to keep the content of the IOU page without being constantly modified to content that does not represent the IOU, it will be highly appreciated. The content I am trying to add is not a means of advertisement rather reflection of what IOU is and represents. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IOUeditor1 (talkcontribs) 14:14, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

Other users are entitled to voice their own opinions on the talk pages, Wikipedia is not censored. The article seems neutral to me at the moment. Any content you add needs to be supported by reliable third party references and then you can't go wrong. Theroadislong (talk) 14:35, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

My attack

Hello Theroadislong,

You recently, on my talk page, asked me not to attack editors. I'm not sure I did actually call NeilN a "moron" as I can't find it on the "Bible" talk page. He said I did and I just went along with it. Now that I search for the incident it doesn't seem to be there. Can you show me where it is?

I did ask him if he was some kind of "wikipidiot" which was impolite and which I regret and apologize for.

Thanks! Dynasteria (talk) 01:40, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

You said "Thank you, NeilM, for being an idiot and moron here on Wikipedia." Here [[2]] Theroadislong (talk) 08:04, 2 October 2014 (UTC)

On the talk page of "Bible" the first use of "moron" is NeilN's where he objects to my calling him by that name. I can't find it anywhere earlier on that page. Right after that, I responded as if I had used these words because I remembered writing them, but thought I had neglected to delete them. Down below, NeilN has provided a link to some edit that looks vaguely familiar, but I lack the technical ability to understand it. All of this enquiry probably doesn't matter.

OTOH, yes, I was being rude.

Nice treatment of ceramics etc. on your page, especially the mention of Clarice Cliff, a fave. Dynasteria (talk) 07:31, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the warning

Hello, just picked up your note. I do have a close connection to the page, but I spent a lot of time reading through the terms and what constitutes a conflict of interest. I have been very, very cautious in the tone and presentation of the article I submitted, to ensure that it was entirely factual and not promotional, not just in terms of the content, but also the links. There is only one link to the mackenzie wheeler website in the references, all others are external, entirely neutral sources. Please do continue to advise me if there is anything else I can do at this point, and to support the presence of this article, based entirely on fact.

Regards,

Ben. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ben Hamilton-Rhys (talkcontribs) 15:48, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

theroad is long, the road is wrong!!

I was not advertising Hoodshowhiphop!!! Just like worldstarhiphop.com and others on wikipedia. I was making the world aware.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by HoodshowHiphop (talkcontribs) 15:14, 5 October 2014 (UTC) 

Stop butchering articles and correct constructively

When you correct pages make sure you leave full meaningful sentences. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.123.68.151 (talk) 00:49, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

The article in question New Bulgarian University is in an appalling state and you have a clear conflict of interestTheroadislong (talk) 07:10, 6 October 2014 (UTC)

Addition of {{COI}} tags

Hello , I have removed a {{COI}} tag you placed on Rajpal Yadav article. The article has no more significant or substantial problems with the article's neutrality as a result of the contributor's involvement. I have not found any Peacock terms. Along with this you haven't explained anyother problem on the article's talk page. So, I have removed the tag. I encourage you to keep that article on your watchlist. Btw I have left a warning on that COI editor's talk page. Cheers, Jim Carter (from public cyber) 14:13, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Lucy Tammam

Hi! I was wondering how I can improve the Business Accomplishments section. I was following the format i found in other ethical designer pages, for example Carry Somers, which doesn't have citations for most of the business accomplishments and also contains in-line references. Your help would be much appreciated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ecofashflash (talkcontribs) 16:06, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

The Carry Somers article is not a good example to follow. Wikipedia requires references for all content especially claims of awards etc. Can you find reliable third party references (not connected with her) that mention the awards? Theroadislong (talk) 16:17, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

Salt Lake Community College

So I'm a student at SLCC, does that constitute a conflict of interest, because that is the only source for my interest in updating the page.

Previously, the page hadn't been touched since 2006.

Granted I'm not professional by any standard definition, but I thought it might be nice to have people know that the president recently changed and that the logo being displayed was outdated.

I've tried to be as encylopedic as possible and reference any questionable facts. I had to reach ten edits in order to be able to correct the logo issue.

I think part of the issue was since this was the only reason I created a wiki account initially was to edit this page, my signature reflected that, so I have changed it to something that doesn't pertain to the school.

If that means I can't do anything, then so be it but I felt sorry for the School's wiki page that no one ever seemed to update and caused problems because of inaccuracies.

I'm a student here, but also at the end of my degree and have a job in the works so I don't plan to be here long.

I would find it extremely hypocritical if wikipedia didn't let students edit the page, I just wish more students did the same so I didn't seem so abnormal for taking an interest in the place I pay to go to school.

Who else are you going to get that are experts in their field and qualified to comment? Employees of the SLCC? Employees of other colleges?

Granted there are lots of things that I would complain about, like "eportfolios", or the lack of parking at peak times of the day, or the fact that there isn't any good student housing located near by, but every time I think about adding any of it, it just seems out of place on wikipedia and I feel like I'm unnecessarilly trolling to get back at the school. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SLCCDGentry (talkcontribs) 16:01, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

You have copied and pasted copyrighted content from the college website, this is strictly forbidden. Yes you do have a conflict of interest if you are a student there, but as long as you edit in a neutral manner and supply reliable references fro your content you should be fine.Theroadislong (talk) 16:38, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
Actually, I didn't add the history section so I know that I didn't create any copyright issues with that section.

That copy didn't actually come from the school either as it existed off the 2006 content. It comes from the book listed in the source references.

Also, I'm pretty sure that the school's enrollment page has updated since 2006 so they probably pulled the content from Wikipedia if its similar.

The school has a copy of the book referenced in the library, but it is out of print and had very little circulation so the best way for me to verify anything with you would be to scan the book most likely.

There is another book that the college has regarding its history called The First Thirty Years, a History of Utah Technical College at Salt Lake by Jay L. Nelson, that I plan to add to the reference section verifies the content. If you would like, I can scan and send you the first chapter of this book to verify that the content came from somewhere other than the school's website. Dgentry 17:52, 7 October 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SLCCDGentry (talkcontribs)

Whoever added the history content, it does appear to have been copied and pasted whether from a website or a book it makes no difference. Theroadislong (talk) 18:19, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
I see that you removed the entire history section of the page for Salt Lake Community College.

Was there any specific reason for doing this?

Dgentry 18:35, 7 October 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SLCCDGentry (talkcontribs)

Because as I explained in the edit summary it was a copyright violation of this http://www.slcc.edu/enrollmentservices/slcc-was-utc.aspx Theroadislong (talk) 18:40, 7 October 2014 (UTC)

removed content with out any knowledge

Removed the added content and saying it is spam.how come you know that it is a spam? Kindly visit registrar of India website WWW.Rni.nic.in and search for arcot road talk. This is a authorised neighborhood weekly by govt of India and so I added the content of newspaper of arcot road. Simply with out knowledge don't say it is spam.if you want to edit provide quality content to wiki...

Adding a link to a company you work for is considered spamming. You have added virtually no other content. Theroadislong (talk) 08:49, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Erodr

Erodr should not be in the "See Also" section. It is irrelevant. Why did you revert my change? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qjndakdnakdnad (talkcontribs) 14:05, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Ah yes correct sorry.Theroadislong (talk) 15:14, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
Actually, no, you were right to restore it. This Erodr app is actually notable enough for an article and like Yik Yak is also a social media app targeted at the college campus. This "Qjndakdnakdnad" has been edit-warring for a week trying to get his non-notable "Masquerade" mentioned in the Yik Yak article, which I have opposed. There is now a posting at WP:ANI on the matter. Tarc (talk) 15:27, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello!

Since we seems to be working alongside each other from time to time, I thought it was only proper that I came by to say hi and thank you for your gentle support. Best, w.carter-Talk 20:09, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Hallå to you too. All good wishes. Theroadislong (talk) 20:16, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
I smell a sock [3] Theroadislong (talk) 20:34, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
Might be, might also be some of his friends he's talked into coming to "rescue" him. You could ask the admin to check it out. I'll just leave a small note at the page.w.carter-Talk 20:50, 8 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks

Hello , thank you for watching Rajpal Yadav article. It seems like that problematic user is ignoring those warnings. I have left him a last warning. If he again disrupt, please let me know or directly take this case at ANI. It is not only a content issue but COI, SPA along with ownership of article combined with WP:IDHT. Thanks, Jim Carter 11:13, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Lymphoma Association profile

Hi,

I updated the Lymphoma Association profile on Wikipedia and have received a message from you saying that you have removed my content because it seemed to be inappropriate. I did not realise that what I had posted would not be allowed and I wondered if you could please send me the guidelines so that I can come up with some alternative content in line with Wikipedia's guidance.

Many thanks,

Jenny Lacommun1cations (talk) 13:21, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

I have posted you the guidelines about editing with a conflict of interest. If you want to make suggestions on the article talk page other editors can decide what to include, all content must be supported by reliable third party references with no in line external links to your website which is considered spamming.Theroadislong (talk) 13:25, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Answer

Hello, Theroadislong, thansk for the message, okay, I will follow the directions of the pages you placed me, and sign my discursiones, I know how to link images and put references, but still not clear to me how to make tables or graphs in wikipedia, that would be my questions or concerns, thanks--Halias 23 (talk) 20:39, 9 October 2014 (UTC)Halias 23 (talk) 16:38, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

These should help you. Help:Table/Introduction to tables Wikipedia:How to create charts for Wikipedia articles Theroadislong (talk) 21:21, 9 October 2014 (UTC)

Help needed uploading an image

Hello

I am trying to replace the logo on this page because it is out of date: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge_International_Examinations

I have looked on this page for advice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Uploading_images

And I have found the image on Wikimedia Commons: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:UCIE.svg

But I still can't find a way to upload the new image - it says I cannot overwrite the existing file but I don't know why that is.

Please can you help?

LexieHoskins (talk) 13:17, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

On this page [4] you should be able to click on the link "Upload a new version of this file" Have you tried that? Theroadislong (talk) 13:30, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

That link doesn't exist on this page...or am I missing it? Thanks LexieHoskins (talk) 13:38, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

You need to be logged in to Wikimedia Commons first. Theroadislong (talk) 14:34, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

I am logged in to Wikimedia Commons. The link is not there. Can you see it? I can see how to edit images on other pages but just not on this one. Is there a reason for this? Thanks LexieHoskins (talk) 15:17, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

I suggest sending a screenshot should help.Mirror Freak My Guestbook 15:18, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Mirror but I don't know how to send a screenshot on here. The problem is that where it should say 'upload a new version of this file' it say 'You cannot overwrite this file' and I want to know why. The logo is 2 years out of date and needs replacing. Your help would be much appreciated. LexieHoskins (talk) 15:40, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Pardon me barging in. @LexieHoskins: The best approach at Commons may be to upload the new version of the image as a new image altogether (with a new name) and then change the articles where the old image is used to point to the new one instead. Thus, the historic image is maintained, in case we need to refer to it at some point later on. —C.Fred (talk) 15:43, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks @C.Fred I'll give that a go :) LexieHoskins (talk) 15:47, 14 October 2014 (UTC)

soapboxing, promotion or advertising???

You claim that I was soapboxing, promotion or advertising, however I was updating the AHA's page information, our new official slogan, and correct links to journals. I don't see how anything that I did can fall under soapboxing, promotion or advertising, but if you could provide more detailed information rather than just a vague threatening message I would definitely appreciate it, so that I might know what I could have possibly done wrong so that I don't violate any policies.AHA McLain (talk) 03:31, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks,

Nathan

Everything you wrote in your first edit was promotional and copied and pasted from http://www.heart.org/HEARTORG/General/About-Us---American-Heart-Association_UCM_305422_SubHomePage.jsp Your later edits are fine. Theroadislong (talk) 07:04, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Article

Hi, I was wondering whether you would be interested in creating an article with me? The article is Scarus arabicus. Thanks!Amanda Smalls 15:20, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

You seem to be working well enough with User:Anna Frodesiak I don't have her patience or good faith in you sorry. Theroadislong (talk) 16:05, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Nor, presumably, her innovative approach to taxonomy. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 16:15, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Is there a reason as to why you've been such a dick to me? Even before I got blocked you've just been rude.Amanda Smalls 16:09, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
It would be better to leave it, Amanda. People don't have to help people if they don't want to. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 16:15, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
I'm not saying that he does. But was it really necessary to say, "I don't have her patience or good faith"?Amanda Smalls 16:26, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
You have barraged my talk page with offensive language, you are just out of a block for sockpuppetry with at least 14 different accounts... why would I assume any good faith? Theroadislong (talk) 16:31, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
You don't have to. But you could at least not have to take it to this point by saying that you don't. I already know that you don't.Amanda Smalls 17:31, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Florida State Forests

Good Afternoon,

I am the Communications and Public Relations Coordinator for the Florida Forest Service and I wanted to add more information to the Florida State Forest pages that come from our Florida Forest Service Website. There is no copyright issue on our end. I am going back through and citing the source, but I wanted to make sure everything was ok, since I am quoting large portions of information from our website.

Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by FLForestService (talkcontribs) 17:32, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Indiaproperty

Hi, I've reverted Indiaproperty to an earlier version of the page. The user currently performing edits on it, Tapovahini, is very likely a previously banned user (Lakshmin) and an employee of the company trying to promote it once again. FYI :) --Cpt.a.haddock (talk) 22:50, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Inconsistant/non-uniform/incorrect/false/contradictory/inaccurate information for the 15 DH ALBs

Please do not assume incorrect intentions as this is offensive. There are 15 national health and social care bodies of the Department of Health and we are trying to make all the articles consistent and uniform. Some of these bodies state 'of the United Kingdom' and some do not. It is not necessary for it to state this information in the first line as this becomes obvious in other sections of the article. Also, these bodies are bodies for England and not the United Kingdom therefore provides false information which is against the use of Wikipedia. Inconsistency is false and incorrect. Either all 15 bodies should contain 'of the United Kingdom' or they should not. It's contradictory that some do and some do not. It is better and more accurate that for consistency and uniformity that they do not include 'of the United Kingdom' as they are bodies for England and provides incorrect information as the reader will assume that these bodies operate for the whole of the United Kingdom. The four countries of the United Kingdom have separate health and social care systems. They do not have a unified system! Before making assumptions, please do some research! Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DHNHSALB (talkcontribs) 15:53, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Please assume good faith, you have made multiple edits with different accounts removing content without explanation in the edit summary. The agencies and organisations are "located in the UK", the edits are about location and not who is being served by them. Please also note that Wikipedia accounts are strictly for individuals. Theroadislong (talk) 16:15, 16 October 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply. The response doesn’t really tackle the main issue which was consistency and uniformity. The Department of Health has 15 Arm’s Length Bodies and if you look through all 15 of them, the opening sentence is formatted differently on them rather than the same. Some say ‘of the Department of Health’ and some say ‘of the Department of Health in the United Kingdom’. Do you see the problem now? And why is it that you are only concerned with a few of the DH’s ALB’s? Why not all 15 of them!? Do you not have any concern for the other DH ALBs? At least, when the edit was done on this side, it was done out of concern for all of the 15 DH ALBs hence the consistency and uniformity. I’m not sure why this is getting complicated, it is rather a simple principle and the reasoning, intentions and actions were and are actually valid and very good! — Preceding unsigned comment added by DHNHSALB (talkcontribs) 08:12, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

I'm happy to go through them all and check for consistency but I don't have a list of all 15 bodies and I have 21,000 other articles on my watchlist, we are all volunteers here. Theroadislong (talk) 09:07, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

User Name Speedy Deletion

I have requested a name change, I will create a new page as I am currently attending a Wikipedia course. The user name was created without knowledge of the guidelines of Wiki and I apologise for the issue.

All the best

Solva Family Holidays (talk) 11:39, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Ref Solva Family Holidays

Hi, if you need to contact me again, my new user name is HelenSolva.

Many thanks

HelenSolva (talk) 11:45, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

You have repeated your mistake though by advertising your business on your user page? Theroadislong (talk) 11:49, 17 October 2014 (UTC)

Apology

Hey Theroadislong, I realized that I have been abusive towards you and I want to apologize. I'm sorry for using offensive language toward you. Hopefully in the future we can be in better terms.Amanda Smalls 13:14, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Apology accepted all good wishes. Theroadislong (talk) 13:37, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Life Insurance Settlement Association page

This is my first experience with Wikipedia edits so perhaps you can help me out here. My impression is that Wikipedia is intended to be a user-generated reference site that provides factual background information to people conducting research on the Internet. The content that was posted by the Life Insurance Settlement Association staff was just descriptive information that explained who they are, what they do, how their members serve consumers, etc. I saw that it was taken down by someone so I simply tried to re-post it for others to be able to view the content. If the information posted is factual and verifiable, how is that problematic for posting on a user-generated reference site? I just did a quick search on wikipedia.org and found dozens of pages for trade associations across all sorts of industries that do precisely the same thing, most of which provide citations to that organization's website, precisely the way that LISA did with the content they attempted to post. What am I not understanding? Can you help me understand the acceptable way for factual information about a professional association to be published on Wikipedia? Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.180.67.192 (talk) 15:30, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, the content you added was VERY promotional in tone which is why it was deleted. As you have a WP:Conflict of interest it is wise to suggest changes on the articles talk page. As a new user you can always ask questions at The Teahouse. Theroadislong (talk) 15:43, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

LISA page follow-up

We're not at cross-purposes here -- as a communications consultant and free-lance writer, I use Wikipedia frequently and I'm delighted to learn that there are editors monitoring the content posted to the site. I'm just trying to understand how the system works since I honestly don't see how the edits the LISA staff made to the page for their association are materially different in promotional tone to pages such as these: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Aluminum_Association http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Hospital_Association http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America%27s_Health_Insurance_Plans http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Consumer_Electronics_Association I noticed that in each of these cases there is a disclaimer across the top that disputes/questions/frames the content as "not neutral" or whatever, but at least the content is allowed to be posted for researchers to read for themselves. I'm just trying to understand what LISA or any other professional association (I consult with others) needs to do in order to have Wikipedia pages that are similar to the dozens on there now for various professional associations. For example, if they aren't going to be allowed to edit the single paragraph on their Wikipedia page now -- which is inaccurate, by the way -- should they submit a brand new page to Wikipedia under the same name? Or do they need to try to track down the original creator of the page and ask him/her to post edits? Thanks for your help, I'm just trying to get this right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.180.67.192 (talk) 17:05, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Pointing out that there are other appalling promotional articles on Wikipedia is hardly a good defence for doing the same ? The maintenance templates at the top of the page indicate the problems that need fixing in those articles...to use them as a justification to write in a similar manner is rather odd? Theroadislong (talk) 17:22, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

LISA cont'd

I'm trying to be polite and have intelligent dialogue here, as per the Wikipedia communications guidelines on the page to which you directed me earlier, may I ask you to please do the same? You're free to find my prior question odd -- and to mock my research into other Wikipedia entries -- but nonetheless I'm just asking what LISA (or any other professional association) needs to do in order to post factual edits to a Wikipedia page dedicated to their own organization. If a Wikipedia editor wants to post a banner across the top of the page that labels the information as "not neutral" or whatever, I totally understand -- but I'm just trying to ascertain what needs to be done in order to at least publish the information for other people to read and make up their own minds about credibility. That's all I'm trying to figure out. Can you help me with this question? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.180.67.192 (talk) 17:37, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

I'm just on my way out, you can ask questions at The Teahouse and get responses from other experienced editors there. Theroadislong (talk) 17:46, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
Wikipedia articles should be based on reliable, published sources Every article on Wikipedia must be based upon verifiable statements from multiple third-party reliable sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy. A third-party source is one that is entirely independent of the subject being covered, e.g., a newspaper reporter covering a story that they are not involved in except in their capacity as a reporter. The opposite of a third-party source is a first-party or non-independent source. A third-party source is not affiliated with the event, not paid by the people who are involved, and not otherwise likely to have a conflict of interest or significant bias related to the material.Theroadislong (talk) 22:57, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
Just to comment as a third party, and just to give a small example this edit was wildly inappropriate, and material like that will never be accepted at Wikipedia, which is an encyclopedia, not an advertising brochure. If you see similar material in other articles, please point them out to me so that I can butcher them cruelly. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 23:37, 18 October 2014 (UTC)

Edit you did

Hi, I'm pretty new at this, but you edited an edit I did. Would you mind taking a peek at it and letting me know if what I left falls more in line with what you were saying? Thanks so much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LoyalsockStateForest (talkcontribs) 18:34, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

The lead section should summarise what the body of the article says. I'm not sure that this is mentioned in the article? Please also note that your username needs to be changed. Your name cannot represent an organisation. Theroadislong (talk) 18:39, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Sorry, but I'm not sure how to respond in back within in the last message. I changed my e-mail to my personal one, but I don't see in preferences how I go about changing my screen name. I definitely don't want to lose all the edits and so if you could point out how I can change my screen name I'd appreciate it. Thanks again — Preceding unsigned comment added by LoyalsockStateForest (talkcontribs) 18:50, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

I have added a link to your talk page. Theroadislong (talk) 18:53, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

I got my name changed. Thanks for all the help. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JSFrosty (talkcontribs) 19:06, 20 October 2014 (UTC)

Weston College

Hello

I tried to edit the page for Weston College yesterday, however it was identified that I'm affiliated with the college and reverted to the original version of the page once I had finished. I appreciate Wikipedia's need for accurate, impartial information; indeed, it was to that end that I was editing the page. I see the page has been edited by someone else and is now more up to date, however it is still not completely correct (for example, it states that the college is a provider of higher education, when in fact it provides both further and higher education courses). I realise that the information I amended yesterday perhaps lacked an adequate amount of references, however it was all factually correct. If I edit the page again, and ensure that I am referencing wherever possible, can I be assured that my editing will be acceptable?

Many thanks.

Kind regards, Anna — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnnaWesCol (talkcontribs) 07:47, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

Wikipedia is only really concerned with facts that are supported by reliable references, preferably secondary references. As you have a clear conflict of interest it is better to use the article talk page to suggest any changes. I have removed all promotional and non neutral content for you. Theroadislong (talk) 09:02, 23 October 2014 (UTC)

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FreightQuote

User Sdavis423 is continually reverting the co-founders back to a single individual even after your repeated warnings. You warned him on 9 October 2014 and on 10 October 2014 and he did it again on the 15th. Additionally user "Freightquote Corporate" is creating the same edits. DavesPlanet (talk) 18:25, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

I begin to wonder if they might be correct and that there is only one founder...the reference is not a good one? Do you have any further references to back up the claim of two founders? Theroadislong (talk) 18:42, 24 October 2014 (UTC)

Kinetic Art

Hello Theroasdislong, why have you changed my editing "Kinetic Art"? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Archivolatinoamericano (talkcontribs) 15:10, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Because you added three non notable artists to the "Selected artists" section. Theroadislong (talk) 15:12, 31 October 2014 (UTC)

Hello Theoroadislong,

why did you remove the list of artists in my page? they all have their own wikipedia page working perfectly.

Thank you, Nobili Vitelleschi Camilla (talk) 12:24, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

When I checked only one of them was a working link. Theroadislong (talk) 12:36, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Brian Gleeson

Hello Theroadislong how are you ? I m new here, and I try to help Wikipedia, I create Brian Gleeson(actor) page, because I think this page is good for Wikipedia because he is actor from famous family and also has strong films.

For citation you can see on external links I add that citation. It s name Brian Gleeson nominee announced. Autor is IFTN.

Greeting.Michael Ewerson (talk) 20:00, 3 November 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Michael Ewerson (talkcontribs) 19:53, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

One more thing, I mean this source is reliable because is written by IFTN. If I am wrong, please correct my fault.

And when some people write on Google Brian Gleeson cant go on page.

Please ask my how can I improve it?

Greeting.Michael Ewerson (talk) 20:00, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

That is not a citation please see Help:Referencing for beginners He doesn't appear to be notable enough for an article yet regardless of how famous his family may be. Theroadislong (talk) 20:09, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Ok I am understand all, please you can improve page, I am ready to read Help:Referencing for beginners.

Thanks and greeting.

Michael Ewerson (talk) 20:14, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

Metal Fabricaton Edits

You did not permit the addition of brazing, soldering or active soldering. There was No reference at all to brazing and soldering, which I did link to wiki pages..

I had included references and also some external and internal links, but none were allowed. Note that the field of active soldering is a new field our company is engaged and we are a leader in the technology, hence many of the references to the technology do include external links to our commercial website, www.s-bond.com, but our referenced pages are quite technical but fundamental to the technology. We would ask you consider letting us properly refer to external links. Thank you. Ron Smith  — Preceding unsigned comment added by RSmith at S-Bond (talkcontribs) 23:10, 3 November 2014 (UTC) 

K, soz — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greengianttroll (talkcontribs) 18:56, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

(Personal attack removed)

Help!

Hello, Theroadislong. I'm seeking your help on how I can create a page that doesn't get labeled for speedy deletion and may actually get successfully posted. I've tried twice to create/post an article about carsoup.com.

Please advise on what I'm doing wrong.

Thanks!

Angelo

Angelogentile55 (talk) 20:58, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

You need to show that the subject meets Wikipedia's criteria of notability. To show that, you need to find several reliable sources, independent of the subject (such as newspapers, or websites with a reputation for fact-checking) which have written at length about the subject. You then need to reference specific information in the draft article to those sources, using the methods described in referencing for beginners. Not every website is going to be notable enough for an article. Theroadislong (talk) 21:09, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Madeleine McCann

Why did you leave me a message like that? All I was changing was that it said a blindingly obvious statement about Madeleine McCann: "her whereabouts remain unknown." How the f**k is that disruptive content? (Personal attack removed) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Liam-dino (talkcontribs) 19:22, 4 November 2014‎ (UTC)

Your edit removed referenced content without any explanation in the edit summary. If you really feel it needs to be removed you could start a discussion at the articles talk page but perhaps you could do it politely. Theroadislong (talk) 21:13, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
Ok maybe I was wrong? I'm sorry for what I did mate please don't take what I say seriously at the end of the day I'm only 16 and I have just lost my best friend to a car accident 😔 please forgive me mate 💜 Liam-dino (talk) 21:50, 4 November 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Liam-dino (talkcontribs) 21:48, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
No worries, take care.Theroadislong (talk) 22:05, 4 November 2014 (UTC)

Warnings

When warning KellyodomTalk, I notice you started with the 3rd warning, why is that? It is always important to Assume good faith, and go easy on newcomers. --I am Kethrus Talk to me! 17:34, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

My mistake I thought the previous warning was her second, all her edits have been vandalism so far so I don't see much reason to assume good faith? Theroadislong (talk) 17:37, 5 November 2014 (UTC)
Alright. I'm not saying what you did was the wrong thing to do (I looked into the users previous contributions - I notice they're not exactly very constructive), I personally give users more of a chance by starting with the next warning (unless their vandalism is grossly offensive, then I give them a single warning). --I am Kethrus Talk to me! 17:40, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Hello :))

I am just curious as to why you deleted my summary. I was told to change a Wikipedia page for my information course and record what happens, so your feedback would be much appreciated! Thank you :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by RutgersUniversityStudentEdit (talkcontribs) 22:09, 5 November 2014 (UTC)

Your edit here [[5]] replaced correctly referenced material with your own unreferenced original research. Wikipedia only reports on what the reliable sources say. Theroadislong (talk) 03:43, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Hodgehalsall

Hi

Thank you for looking at the page I have set up. Apologies if I have done something against the rules. I am extremely new to this.

Please let me know if this is against the rules - my aim is to add a page to Wikipedia which explains the history of our law firm which has been based in Southport for over 100 years and has a interesting history. I added the short details about the actual law firm to the page as I thought that the 'User:Hodgehalsall' page was a type of 'about you' bio and that I would be able to create a page itself to descrive our history. I do not aim to advertise anything so I apologise if i have made a mistake.

If it is ok to create an article about our history please let me know if i have done this in the wrong place. The article is a timeline of our firm and not prmotional.

I can provide thecopy to show you if that helps.

Thanks

Paul

Hodgehalsall (talk) 17:21, 6 November 2014 (UTC)

Your user page is for details about yourself and your contributions to Wikipedia, it is not the place to create an article. Your user name cannot represent a company so you will need to change it. To create an article about your company, you need to show that the subject meets Wikipedia's criteria of notability. To show that, you need to find several reliable sources, independent of the subject (such as newspapers, or websites with a reputation for fact-checking) which have written at length about the subject. You then need to reference specific information in the draft article to those sources, using the methods described in referencing for beginners. As you have a clear conflict of interest you should also read WP:COI. Theroadislong (talk) 17:33, 6 November 2014 (UTC)