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Roxette & associated articles

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Date of image

I notice you have some interest in Roxette. I managed to source the only legitimate image of Marie F on flickr from Mr. Evensson here as you know: File:Marie_Fredriksson_by_Thomas_Evensson_(1987).jpg

Anyway, I managed to find the exact date of the photo: August 5, 1987 after I contacted him today here: [1] . (I entered in this info today for her Commons picture. He licensed it freely without a 'Non-Commercial' restriction just this one time for Marie's wiki page) I wish my record keeping was as impeccable as his! From my previous contact with him last year, he said he manages Per's web site: www.gessle.com and the Daily Roxette. Evensson also donated an image for Per's Gyllene Tider band's wiki article. Without him, there would be no images of Marie or Per here which would be a disaster. I had checked and rechecked on flickr and only his images of Marie F were definitely taken by him. He even says so in the metadata. All the rest...were just flagrant copy vios. It is nice to see an image of Marie before she became famous. With kind Regards, --Leoboudv (talk) 05:47, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi, yes I became a Roxette fan when my parents always played Tourism in the car when I was small. I've been hooked ever since and still am.

You may have noticed a week ago I merged Per's and Marie's individual pictures made by Evensson, so now Roxette also has a picture. Its quite sad there isn't a non-copyrighted picture of them together. I do like Marie's picture though, I bet she didn't know she & Rox would go on to sell millions of records. :) Mattg82 (talk) 12:14, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

• Yes it is unfortunate. It is strange you know: millions of people must have taken pictures of Roxette's tours in the late 1980's and the early 1990's and no one posts them on flickr. I saw your photo of Roxette. I was thinking too whether someone would create an image for them as has been done for ABBA and Ace of Base. The 1987 photo of Marie is indeed nice...and she is smiling. What more can one ask? Cheers, --Leoboudv (talk) 20:17, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

Record Sales

Hi, I see you changed Roxette's record sales down to 60 million. Reading the cited sources, I think the articles mention just the album sales excl. singles. According to Roxette's official bio on www.roxette.se they sold over 55 million albums and 20 million singles. www.emimusic.de/roxette has 45 million albums and 25 million singles in their Roxette Hits bio.

Pumadog (talk) 11:56, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi Pd, while my knowledge of Swedish is pretty much zero, I'm almost certain that the sources say records (ie albums and singles together). I've seen a few Swedish articles which use the word album rather than skivor when talking about sales, leading me to believe when the word album is used that is exactly want they mean.

Inline with other articles I wanted to change the figure to a overall number rather than albums and singles separately and cited that figure with 3rd party reliable sources. The sources you have given are primary sources and should be taken with scepticism, as much as I want to see Roxette selling 70m+ I am not convinced they have done so, as music labels like to exaggerate sales figures for marketing purposes. If you look at Roxette discography you will see all the gold and platinum certifications given to Roxette, adding these up comes to around 20m records. I'm aware that there are many certifications missing or certifications that are not publicly available information but does that add upto 50m records?

Emimusic.de was one of three sources given for 45 million albums and 25 million singles before I changed it, I think the other two (and many other pages on the internet) just copied this without any investigation to see if it is correct. It's the same problem for the official site as well, many people have copied this also. The BBC website even put 55m albums but did put the words Roxette claim... meaning they copied it as well but added those words to mean the BBC didn't come up that figure. The BBC could not be bothered to do proper research because it was only a quick interview and way down the list of importance, and if the BBC, a highly regarded news service could not be bothered you have to assume other news services can't be bothered also.

Sorry this is a long ramble but I just want to best article possible for Roxette, removing official and music label websites is part of that goal. IMO using primary sources cheapens the article and makes it look like no one has done anything to find high quality sources. If you can find two highly reliable sources which state 70m (and not 45m albums and 25m singles) then I might add 70m back to the article. Mattg82 (talk) 00:03, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Mattg82, thanks for your response! The problem with all the sources is, to my knowledge (talks with industry insiders) they all depend on info from the record labels. And even they have to estimate the sales partly, because there's still no global sales counter for all the local branches. So I think the article for all artists refer to numbers like this, for example the total sales for the Beatles or Michael Jackson vary very much. Now Roxette looks quite poor in comparison to other artists fantasy numbers. ;-) So maybe it's wise to write something like "sales between 60 and 80 million records, according to different sources"? If you like, join the "Roxette on Wikipedia" discussion I started recently for this matter at Run2Roxette forums!

Sascha —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pumadog (talk • contribs) 07:42, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Hi Pd, yeah unfortunately adding up certifications is all we (we meaning the general public) have when estimating sales. Due to arguments at List of best-selling music artists about The Beatles and Michael Jackson's "fantasy numbers" hehe :), it was decided that all estimated figures and not just one figure for the top selling artists were included. So I'm in favour of changing it to "between 60 and 70 million according to sources" if some good sources are found. Thanks for the forum link I'll take a look it. Mattg82 (talk) 23:27, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Discography

THANKS for making my input on New Zealand a waste of time - FU, people here love them here too - and who the F are you to decide what countries are minor and whats not???!!!

Please be civil. There is a suggested limit of 10 charts that can be inserted into discographies, so it was originally removed as it is a smaller music market (according to IFPI, see Global music industry market share data) compared to other countries on the table. I will restore the article to the last version before it was edited and later today I'll remove US AC and replace with New Zealand if you agree. Mattg82 (talk) 13:58, 10 February 2011 (UTC)

Award of a Barnstar

		The Barnstar of Diligence
		This barnstar is hereby awarded for extraordinary scrutiny, precision, and community service, especially in regard to adding references to biographies of living persons. Awarded by PhilKnight (talk) 15:57, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Phil I'll copy it to my awards page. Mattg82 (talk) 00:04, 26 August 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced articles/Banner

How does the banner count get updated on Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced articles/Banner? It has said 625+ for a long time, count is now at least 686. JeepdaySock (AKA, Jeepday) 17:13, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

It has to be done manually for now. User:Erwin85/CatCount stopped updating the counts, so I tried PAGESINCATEGORY syntax ({{PAGESINCATEGORY:Wikipedia unreferenced articles improved}}) but it just says 0 when the entire project page is displayed :( Mattg82 (talk) 20:31, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

Why is the count on it's own sub page Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced articles/articles-improved instead of just being on the sub page Wikipedia:WikiProject Unreferenced articles/Banner, all these different pages make it difficult to maintain. JeepdaySock (AKA, Jeepday) 10:58, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

OK I've moved the table to /Banner. /articles-improved can now be deleted, what is the procedure for that? Add a speedy tag to it ? Mattg82 (talk) 13:46, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

You can put {{db-author}} on it. JeepdaySock (AKA, Jeepday) 15:14, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Music Barnstar
		I award you this barnstar for your constant assistance at List of best-selling music artists and your dedication to Wikipedia's music related articles in general.--Harout72 (talk) 00:04, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks :-D Mattg82 (talk) 00:37, 8 November 2010 (UTC)

Re: List of Best selling singles

Thank you so much for the barnstar :D - Bluesatellite (talk) 02:45, 15 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

		The Cleanup Barnstar
		For your work with sourcing articles and cleaning up stale tags as part of WP:Mistagged BLP cleanup, thanks, and keep up the good work! Gigs (talk) 04:05, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks :-D Mattg82 (talk) 14:54, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Alla Pugacheva

I'd appreciate your opinion and comments here. Thanks.--Harout72 (talk) 20:12, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

inre Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Lauro Delgado

You might wish to revisit your AFD nomination and change your nomination statement from "I have found no reliable sources to verify this BLP" into "I have found no reliable sources to verify this BLP article" , as the actor died in 1977, this one is not a BLP isssue. Also, since the nomination sources have been added to verify the article, and there is ongoing work to find more. Best regards, Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 01:31, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

OK I've crossed it out. Mattg82 (talk) 01:47, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

You did not have to, but it is an appreciated courtesy. Thank you. Schmidt, ^{MICHAEL Q.} 03:03, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

Contribution Team

Hi there! This is a message sent to all members of the Contribution Team. We're letting you know that there has been a rather major update - you can read more about it at Wikipedia talk:Contribution Team#Backlog Drive Update And Other News. Kind regards, Panyd and Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry (talk) 23:25, 10 December 2010 (UTC)

Lil' Love

FYI - RE:edit, I would have used a prod, see Soulreaper, Note that I liberal spread prod warnings. [2], [3], [4]. Jeepday (talk) 12:43, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

a-ha's video footage on You Tube

There is a discussion on a-ha's video footage at RSN which shows the band has sold 70 million records. If you find the time, your input would be useful.--Harout72 (talk) 03:57, 14 December 2010 (UTC)

Thanks!

Thanks :D Mattg82 (talk) 17:23, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of GetAdmin

I removed the prod on GetAdmin, which I think is notable as malware. I found substantial coverage in one reliable source (see edit summary or talk page), and there may be more. Microsoft's page can be considered a secondary source, too. --Pnm (talk) 18:14, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Synthkid

Can you voice your opinion on whether the article should be kept on the "Articles For Deletion" page on this article? It would help a lot thanks! :) (Goalswork (talk) 01:59, 12 January 2011 (UTC))

OK I will add my say. Mattg82 (talk) 02:10, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Mistagged BLP cleanup

What's the point in duplicating it? Gigs (talk) 15:53, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

If you are referring to Wikipedia:Mistagged unreferenced articles cleanup, then I don't understand what you mean. The list does not contain any BLPs. Mattg82 (talk) 16:47, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Oh, OK. Gigs (talk) 21:58, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

No problem, I've perhaps made it too similar to BLP cleanup. Mattg82 (talk) 22:16, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Penina

I disagree with your opinion that "Penina" is a non-notable song. I think that most Paul McCartney songs are notable. In Wikipedia there are examples of album tracks, which did not chart. At least, why didn't you include it in the Articles for deletion-list, so other Wikipedia-users could discuss it and let their opinion be heard? The information about the song could be transfered to the album article "The Songs Lennon and McCartney Gave Away" Mbakkel2 Jan 15. 2010 21:40 (CET)

I have now merged the info from Penina into The Songs Lennon and McCartney Gave Away. As it stood I don't think it warranted a seperate article.

Per WP:NSONGS: "Notability aside, a separate article on a song is only appropriate when there is enough verifiable material to warrant a reasonably detailed article; articles unlikely ever to grow beyond stubs should be merged to articles about an artist or album".

For an example of "a reasonably detailed article" see "That Means a Lot" a song also from that album. I can still take it to WP:RFD (or WP:AFD if article is restored) if you wish. Mattg82 (talk) 22:39, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

Hello, I see your point of view. I include the piece of information about "Penina" in the article about the album. Best wishes Mbakkel2 16. jan 2010 15:43 (CET)

Thanks

Thanks for your participation in this years fundraiser/contribution team effort. It's the first time we've ever tried doing anything like this combined, and it worked really well. We look forward to your help next year! Regards, ⇒DanRosenthal (WMF) 08:53, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

WP:URA

Matt, this edit makes it so you can't edit a section on the talk page. You have to open the entire page for editing then try and find the section you want to add to. Can you fix it with out having to add portal headers at each section? Jeepday (talk) 11:21, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

OK fixed. Mattg82 (talk) 18:40, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Talk:List of best-selling music artists

I have a suggestion posted at Talk:List of best-selling music artists. Your thoughts would be appreciated.--Harout72 (talk) 20:28, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Rox Centre of the Heart.ogg

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Thanks for uploading File:Rox Centre of the Heart.ogg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Courcelles 03:46, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free image File:Rox Milk and Toast and Honey.ogg

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Thanks for uploading File:Rox Milk and Toast and Honey.ogg. The image description page currently specifies that the image is non-free and may only be used on Wikipedia under a claim of fair use. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Wikipedia. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Wikipedia (see our policy for non-free media).

Note that any non-free images not used in any articles will be deleted after seven days, as described in the criteria for speedy deletion. Thank you. Courcelles 03:55, 6 August 2011 (UTC)

Egypt Demographics

I would like to know why did you undo what I edited in the Arab league article. The population is not accurate because the source cited is 3 years old Egypt's population increased since then. The article is also not consistent because its Egypt population is different from one section to another. Here is a link to Egypt's Central Agency for Public Mobilization And Statistics> I hope you undo your edit please. Thanks Here is the link http://www.msrintranet.capmas.gov.eg/pls/fdl/tst12e?action=1&lname= — Preceding unsigned comment added by Riuken (talk • contribs) 11:35, 17 August 2011 (UTC) --Riuken (talk) 11:52, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

I'm confused, all I have done is fill in reference details, I haven't changed the article in any significant way. Mattg82 (talk) 14:22, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Talkback!

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We Want Blood! deletion

I noticed you closed the AfD for this article with no discussion whatsoever. Lacking access to deleted edits, I cannot comment on the content of the article. I can only say that this seems to be incredibly bizarre and not in keeping with normal AfD procedure. I'd like to hear your take on the matter, but barring some sort of inarguable rationale I feel obliged to take the matter to deletion review. Note that I am not challenging your rationale (WP:NALBUMS), but rather saying that, as someone who can't see what the article was or was about, there's no way of determining whether that rationale was valid. In the absence of discussion, I feel a summary deletion is unwarranted. Throwaway85 (talk) 07:35, 14 September 2011 (UTC)

Actually, given that your last edit was 10 days ago, I feel DRV is probably the better forum to address this issue. Throwaway85 (talk) 07:40, 14 September 2011 (UTC)