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== September 2013 ==
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For Your Kind Attention

Please read this: Commons:User_talk:Russavia#Resolution:Images_of_identifiable_persons. JKadavoor Jee 05:27, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

RFAR: Wikipedia's IRC channels

Please see a current request for arbitration, which discusses the relation between

  • WMF and Wikipedia (and its ArbCom) and
  • Wikipedia's IRC channels.

I have added you as a party to the arbitration case.

Concerns include the use of IRC for

  1. canvassing administrators,
  2. sexual banter with children,
  3. chatting about lighting myself on fire with oil and a lighter (by a WMF employee), etc.

Another concern is the failure of WMF and Wikipedia to match the child-protection standards of the Boy Scouts and Girl Scouts, for example, by requiring two adults witness every child-adult interaction. The Scouts would not tolerate Wikipedia's editor

  1. telling a boy how to work around his parents' removal of his contact list from his email, and following up with emails and IM messages for months, including one following the boy's having "learned his lesson".
  2. telling a boy that the editor will be visiting his town the next week.

IRC is a liability to children and Wikipedia and certainly to the WMF.

Sincerely, Kiefer.Wolfowitz 22:43, 7 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

As a note, please be aware that the Arbcom has removed you, Sue, as a party to the case. Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 07:07, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The STOPhaus Movement Claims that WP Community is Purposefully Maintaining Libel

You may or may not be aware that there has been an ongoing feud between an anti-spam organization known as The Spamhaus Project and an anti-censorship collective known as The STOPhaus Movement. This has spilled over into Wikipedia community due to a largely biased and one-sided section on a page that seems to be gvery one-sided altogether. The Spamhaus Project has a page on Wikipedia and on that page there is a discussion concerning STOPhaus and their involvement in the "Largest DDoS Attack in History" as NYT so sensationally called it.

The NYT journalist, Nicole Perlroth and John Markoff were fed the content by Cloudflare, a DDoS mitigation company working alongside The Spamhaus Project. The Wikipedia article reflects on allegations against The STOPhaus Movement and even goes as far as to use a quote calling us "spam and malware hosters", "criminals" and various other libelous claims. We, if there is a "we" are a group of people, users, ISPs, and various anonymous supporters that believe that Spamhaus are over-aggressive in their means to the point it is, or should be, illegal. The debate is whether or not they are, in fact, criminal in their actions.

I am reaching out on the behalf of The STOPhaus Movement to suggest that your editors allow the inclusion of the allegations against Spamhaus, made by STOPhaus or the removal of any reference to STOPhaus from The Spamhaus Page. Maintaining what we are calling libel without moral or reasonable grounds to do so appears to be malicious propaganda and is being received as such. Congratulations on your new life, but you should understand first hand, how a NYT inaccuracy becomes a PR nightmare and Wikimedia Foundation Inc. should not promote the libelous abuse of any group of people.

Especially since the largest STOPhaus support comes from your hometown and a recently formed Political Party in Pinellas County support TSM. Seems you should be a proponent for the whole truth and nothing but the truth, bring a Floridian. Maybe London has already gotten to you though, who knows?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.120.156.50 (talk • contribs)

For info, Philippe has already replied to this on his talk page, where it was also posted. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 06:51, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Quite, thank you, Demiurge - I was just coming here to say that. You beat me to it ;-) Philippe Beaudette, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 07:08, 10 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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No more trolling on my talk page, please.

Dear Sue Gardner,

I consider becoming a Wikipedian, but I have a question.

A few days ago I happened to read this

[10:10am] <sgardner>: Thehelpfulone: we could ask Kat, right now :-)

[10:10am] <Thehelpfulone>: indeed, mindspillage what do you do?

[10:10am] <sgardner>: (Pinning her up against the wall, as Ironholds likes :-) [10:10am] <mindspillage>: ...

[10:10am] <Ironholds>: ...

[10:10am] <sgardner>: LOL :-)

[10:10am] <Ironholds>: NOT what I meant

[10:10am] <StevenW>: She spills her mind, obviously. ;)

[10:11am] <Ironholds>: sgardner: you know the WMF covering psychiatric insurance?

[10:11am] <Ironholds>: does it just cover YOURS, or are you going to pay for the trauma I've just suffered? :p

[10:11am] <sgardner>: Most definitely :-)

[10:11am] <mindspillage>: Mostly, we send a lot of email. So part of it is the basic oversight role: reviewing the budget, the annual plan, evaluating the executive director ::eyes sgardner::. and the general functioning of the org...


So I wonder, if the WMF covering psychiatric insurance only for employees or for volunteers too?

Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.173.62 (talk) 18:11, 28 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

I'm aware that this IRC exchange is being quoted, lately, in the context of an Arb Com case. I'm not that familiar with the case (nor do I feel I need to be), so I'll limit myself to a general comment about the exchange. This was an informal jokey exchange on IRC among people who know each other well: Ironholds, Kat and I have all known each other for years, and we are friendly. That's the context. A slightly broader point: IMO IRC is a medium that lends itself to, and is often used for, casual kibitzing -- it is essentially a social medium that provides a way for people to collapse physical distance and hang out together as though they were in the same room. In the same way that I don't think it would be useful to, years later, play back sections of a phone call or office water-cooler conversation, I also don't think it's useful to quote back sections of IRC dialogue. It's an ephemeral medium. Thanks Sue Gardner (talk) 16:31, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Does it mean that, when you 'do' hang out together in the same room Ironholds is pinning you and Kat up against the wall? Thanks.

@Sue Gardner:

  • Will you point to any IRC logs where you stated that ongoing misogynist behavior was inappropriate? Where any WMF staffperson stated that ongoing misogynist behavior was inappropriate?
  • Who hired Oliver Keyes, despite his years of misogynistic, violent, and defamatory rhetoric?
  • Doesn't your acquiescence to misogyny and indeed playful parroting of misogyny contribute to a hostile work environment for women at WMF? Kiefer.Wolfowitz 08:00, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Perhaps you would like to consider the point that different levels of seriousness / discretion are suitable for different types of social settings. For example, you don't behave the same way at a business meeting that you would behave at a party, the behavior at party would not be the same as at a pub and the behavior at a pub would be different from the behavior at a camping in the forest.... Similarly, the behavioral requirements on the net are also different at different places. The behavioral requirements at arbcom > ANI > article talk > user talk. You also have to consider whether the setting is friendly or disputatious. In dispute situations, even referring to me as "Oranges" may become contentious, but may not be so otherwise. Butting into other people's conversation, taking things out of context and blowing those out of context things out of proportion by detecting and becoming aghast at x$-ism (even when none of the participants in the conversation seem to have any problems with each other) seems somewhat bumptious to me. Surely you can find something better to do? Alternatively, perhaps you can find worse things to get aghast about? I could help you find both. Just ask. And, is it kosher for a Wikipedian to try to affect another Wikipedian's employment by contacting their employer?OrangesRyellow (talk) 12:16, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sue is responsible for her own behavior in Wikipedia's IRC. I have not contacted the board, which has the authority to hire and fire her. Kiefer.Wolfowitz 12:35, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I was talking about Ironhold's employment. I think Sue has the authority to fire him.OrangesRyellow (talk) 12:41, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed, but this section discusses Sue's behavior. An earlier section alerts Sue to Ironholds's behavior, and it is the earlier section where your comments might be relevant. Kiefer.Wolfowitz 12:45, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You have discussed Ironhold's behavior here too, with Sue. That my comment may be relevant elsewhere does not magically mean that it is irrelevant here. And my comment was not about Ironhold's employment alone.OrangesRyellow (talk) 12:57, 30 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Just quickly I am going to say here: I am not planning to publicly discuss the behaviour of individual staff members, and it's unlikely I will be commenting in this thread again. If people continue discussing it, here or elsewhere, I'd ask you to be careful with your language. Please be generous or at a minimum neutral in terms of how you characterize the behaviour of others. "Misogyny," for example, is a very strong word and a serious accusation: it shouldn't be lightly made. Thanks. Sue Gardner (talk) 17:05, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

@Sue Gardner:
"Misogyny" is the correct word to describe the advocacy of shooting named women and punching a hole in the windpipe of a woman to prolong her suffocation. It's also used by a leading newspaper:
  • Murphy, Dan (2013). "In UK, rising chorus of outrage over online misogyny: Recent events in Britain draw more attention to endemic hostility towards women online". The Christian Science Monitor. Retrieved 1 August 2013. {{cite news}}: Check date values in: |accessdate= (help); Cite has empty unknown parameter: |1= (help); Invalid |ref=harv (help); Unknown parameter |month= ignored (help)
How do you describe the proposal to buy sex dolls in the likeness of Jimbo Wales and (by Ironholds) Peter Damien and to use the latter as a punching bag? (24 November 2011, employed as "Wikimedia Foundation community liaison")
Kiefer.Wolfowitz 20:26, 1 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sue, in his article, Dan posed a simple challenge to you: as the leader of the WMF, who has expressed an interest in bolstering women on Wikipedia, why is it you seek to defend boorish behaviour rather than try and set the tone? Everyone is allowed to slip up, just surprised you didn't put your hand up and say "Not one of my finest moments, let's do better." About time WMF put up or shut up about IRC. Close it down or set some rules, set an example. Nobody else is going to do it for you. 94.169.24.206 (talk) 10:46, 2 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Sue, this is the kind of thing Jimbo does on his talk page when an uncomfortable topic is discussed. Cla68 (talk) 23:43, 3 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
That's not fair to Jimbo, who allowed his talk page to be used to resolve another IRC discussion of sexual violence targeting a Wikipedia volunteer. Guess which WMF employee suggested punching a life-sized sex-doll of the volunteer? Kiefer.Wolfowitz 13:23, 4 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I was very concerned to read in the Christian Science Monitor the flippant tone and substance of the response by Sue Gardner to shocking and disturbing expressions of misogyny and sexualized-violence by WMF employee and Wikipedia editor Oliver Keyes (aka Ironholds), whose apparent years-long pattern of misogynistic, violent, and defamatory rhetoric I learned about thanks to the efforts of Kiefer Wolfowitz.
I was especially disillusioned when Gardner wrote, "I also don't think it's useful to quote back sections of IRC dialogue. It's an ephemeral medium." She actually seems to be saying that she didn't think it was convenient to have abusive and inappropriate IRC dialogue quoted back to her and reported on by the MSM or anyone else, and that she wished it were an ephemeral medium - when in reality it isn't. Her trying to hide this discussion on her talk page only serves to amplify the disillusion.
Why would I give my daughter permission - let alone encourage her - to become involved in editing Wikipedia or engaging in any way over any project for any reason with the WMF, when there is apparently official tolerance of the online abuse and degradation of women on Wikipedia and its related mediums (like quasi-official IRC)...by Wikimedia Foundation employees?! This is a question all responsible parents should ask, b/c unless I am mistaken, Gardner has not denounced Oliver Keyes' statements as inappropriate, nor has she advocated for an end to officially-tolerated online abuse of women by WMF staff, volunteers and/or supporters? If she has, I would appreciate being directed to that official statement and wonder why it has not been reported on by the media? (I do not believe a non-transparent user-driven "arbitration" can substitute for an official response from Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Sue Gardner.) Azx2 22:51, 25 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
A few have accused Ironholds of being a misogynist, but not a single women. Female editors have in fact said he's the very opposite, check for example this page and search for the word "progressive" to see several such statements. Having spoke to Sue at a London meetup, she's as caring a person as one could hope to meet. And you only have to check her contributions , including from today, to see she writes with sensitivity and compassion about all kinds of progressive causes. Its understandable that folk are passionate about this topic, but that makes it all the more important to do a little research before publicly asking such ultra hostile loaded questions against a woman who edits in her real name and is probably too busy to defend herself against this sort of thing. FeydHuxtable (talk) 00:37, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Indeed. It does amuse me that, while we have newcomers with, shall we say, interesting imagery on their user and talk pages (are both of those your daughters, Azx2?), making wild accusations like this, what we actually see on IRC on a day to day basis is that the most active of the people in charge of IRC are all female. Do they make the right decisions, do they make the wrong decisions, well I have no comment for now, but I wonder if this Azx2 person has ever spoken to those women about their decisions, before making these attacks here.
Oh, and the Christian Science Monitor made the mistake of allowing that ridiculous piece to be published under their byline, by an individual who has already declared that he wants money or "editorial control" otherwise he would rather gouge his eye out with a fork than contribute to Wikipedia.
Do you feel the same way, Azx2? What are you here for? Money? Editorial control? Something else? We would be interested to know. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 01:34, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Personal and Moral Rights?

In a discussion with Jimmy Wales on the moral rights of the photographers and the personal rights of the subjects, he said "I think that the commons community has gone down a very sad and disappointing path with respect to ethical matters. My views on this are not new, and are well known. Our project is a grand humanitarian effort. That it has been hijacked by people who do not share our values is something that needs to be fixed."

We further requested him to bring this matter to the attention of WMF and make a resolution or something to force Commons make enough policies to protect our rights as a photographer and our commitments to our subjects. He replied: "I am just one board member on this issue. I will continue to call this to the attention of the board and staff, but I need help from the community to illustrate that this is a problem that concerns many of us."

So we would like to bring that discussion to the attention of every member on board. JKadavoor Jee 11:09, 29 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you for telling me this. Sue Gardner (talk) 17:05, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. And please note a somewhat related discussion at Commons too: Concern about the bureaucrat role of Russavia JKadavoor Jee 17:17, 31 July 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I would like to let you know that your strong opinion along with others ([1], [2], [3]) influenced the Commons community to initiate a discussion to develop a policy for courtesy deletions. We expect guidance, opinions, and participation in the development of similar policies and guidelines in future too. Thanks. JKadavoor Jee 02:48, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

It's a good outcome, Jkadavoor: I'm glad about it. Thank you for telling me. Sue Gardner (talk) 05:48, 5 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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A barnstar for you!

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Sou Boyy awards Sue with a Special Barnstar for her Outstanding Contribution to Wikipedia and the Global Community Worldwide. My very best, Sou Boyy (talk) 13:42, 22 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

A barnstar for you!

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Thank you for your contribution to the discussion on Chelsea Manning's talk page. As a transsexual wikipedian, it really means a lot to see that you recognize and respect how trans people choose to be identified. I've been appalled at the response by some major media sources recently - they will report that she wants be be called by her new name with feminine pronouns, then go on and finish the article with the wrong name and pronouns. The media is bringing trans issues to the attention of a lot of people who have never thought about it before, and by ignoring her wishes they are teaching their readers that it is okay for them to misgender trans people in general. It is wonderful to see that Wikipedia changed the article so quickly and that you personally support the change. I hope that Wikipedia and the media sources covering this properly will help make people think twice about how they understand trans people, and will help make the world a better place for all of us. Thanks again! Jessica Ryan (talk) 18:50, 23 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

ANI notification

Hi Sue

This is just a courtesy note to say that I referred to you in a discussion at WP:ANI about the possible sanction of an editor for their comments in the debates on the naming of the article on Chelsea Manning.

The thread is Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Propose_closure; the diffs of my 2 relevant edits are [4] and [5]. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 21:31, 25 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

GOCE Blitz wrap-up and September 2013 drive invitation

Guild of Copy Editors August Blitz wrap-up

Participation: Out of sixteen people who signed up for this blitz, nine copy-edited at least one article. Thanks to all who participated! Final results, including barnstars awarded, are available here.

Progress report: During the seven-day blitz, we removed 26 articles from the requests queue. Hope to see you at the September drive in a few days! Cheers from your GOCE coordinators Torchiest and Torchiest, Baffle gab1978 and Baffle gab1978, Jonesey95 and Jonesey95, and The Utahraptor and The Utahraptor.

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The Signpost: 21 August 2013

You inspire people!

Hello Sue,

I just sttoped by because I wanted to say thank you. You are an magnificent WikiWoman and real woman. It's great what you're doing.
I've always wanted to be a journalist and after reading your profile I am 100% sure that that's exactly what I want to do with my life, becoming a Journalist. Thanks for being such an inspiration. Miss Bono [zootalk] 15:49, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Protecting child editors

Sue, have you read the latest blog post on Wikipediocracy? The adult WP editor who privately contacted the 11-year old has posted here on your talk page. Cla68 (talk) 22:56, 26 August 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The Signpost: 28 August 2013

September 2013

Information icon Please do not delete or edit legitimate talk page comments. Such edits are disruptive and appear to be vandalism. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Someone not using his real name (talk) 19:54, 1 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

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