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:::::Hi Risker. I would do as you suggest and examine and improve my behavior if the RFC had been presented in good faith aimed at encouraging this. But the RFC is so revengeful and ugly, meant to demean and destroy me, not to promote my improvement. They posted my every mistake, going back for over a year; even typos from FAC articles are listed. A few succinct recent examples would have done the job, if their intent was not to destroy. Clearly two people are seeking to drive me away from FAC. Reading the postings by '''[[Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Mattisse_3#Outside_view_by_Snowman|Outside view by Snowman]]''' and '''[[Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Mattisse_3#Outside_view_by_Durova|Outside view by Durova]]''' give a different view of two indictments against me and present a more realistic picture. The same could be done for most of the other "evidence", as has been indicated on the talk page by other editors. I admit that I was not always tactful and could definitely improve, but this massive piling on, by a new arbcom member and the the FAC delegate I can only see as a lynch mob mentality. The energy that went into collecting so many mostly petty diffs belies any desire for the RFC to accomplish positive change. I misjudged the hate directed at me by these two people. Now I know I have two extremely vengeful enemies on a level I had not imagined before. Regards, &mdash;[[User:Mattisse|<font color="navy">'''Mattisse'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Mattisse|Talk]]) 10:37, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::Hi Risker. I would do as you suggest and examine and improve my behavior if the RFC had been presented in good faith aimed at encouraging this. But the RFC is so revengeful and ugly, meant to demean and destroy me, not to promote my improvement. They posted my every mistake, going back for over a year; even typos from FAC articles are listed. A few succinct recent examples would have done the job, if their intent was not to destroy. Clearly two people are seeking to drive me away from FAC. Reading the postings by '''[[Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Mattisse_3#Outside_view_by_Snowman|Outside view by Snowman]]''' and '''[[Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Mattisse_3#Outside_view_by_Durova|Outside view by Durova]]''' give a different view of two indictments against me and present a more realistic picture. The same could be done for most of the other "evidence", as has been indicated on the talk page by other editors. I admit that I was not always tactful and could definitely improve, but this massive piling on, by a new arbcom member and the the FAC delegate I can only see as a lynch mob mentality. The energy that went into collecting so many mostly petty diffs belies any desire for the RFC to accomplish positive change. I misjudged the hate directed at me by these two people. Now I know I have two extremely vengeful enemies on a level I had not imagined before. Regards, &mdash;[[User:Mattisse|<font color="navy">'''Mattisse'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Mattisse|Talk]]) 10:37, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Unfortunately, Mattisse, this is the exact type of commentary that the RfC is trying to resolve. If you believe the diffs given are inaccurate or taken out of context, please say so (with supporting diffs) in the response section. Your point of view needs to be included for a balanced weighing, but diatribes and further accusations against Sandy (who did not certify the dispute) are not all that useful. [[User:Karanacs|Karanacs]] ([[User talk:Karanacs|talk]]) 21:05, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
::::::Unfortunately, Mattisse, this is the exact type of commentary that the RfC is trying to resolve. If you believe the diffs given are inaccurate or taken out of context, please say so (with supporting diffs) in the response section. Your point of view needs to be included for a balanced weighing, but diatribes and further accusations against Sandy (who did not certify the dispute) are not all that useful. [[User:Karanacs|Karanacs]] ([[User talk:Karanacs|talk]]) 21:05, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
:::::::I did my best but I don't keep a little black book of diffs to whip out in times like these. The diffs I looked at that were supplied in the RFC often did not support the contention being made. In one SandyGeorgia blames me for frustrating an admin, then that very day she votes against him for the way he treated me! Make sense of that. I can't do it. If it is worth it to put in an RFC that I make typos that I sometimes don't realize and correct, then I am unfit. One of the accusations was a mistake I made a few weeks after my first edit. How can I defend against not understanding a tecnical process as a newbie? How can I defend against making typos? This is over my head. I do not have the energy to go through all those diffs that have obviously been being compiled for over a year. I don't want to fill my head anymore with their ugly thinking. The intent is to drive me off and they will succeed. I am thankful though, to the many who Calisber contacted who either did not respond or responded with support. There are some good people here, I know that. But I am not up to this level of battle and hatred. Sorry, &mdash;[[User:Mattisse|<font color="navy">'''Mattisse'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Mattisse|Talk]]) 04:09, 6 January 2009 (UTC)


== Easy question ==
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My talk page is also my "to-do" list

No really, I do read all my messages in a timely manner. I also archive fairly regularly once the subject of the message has been resolved. I keep things on my talk page until they've been addressed, so stuff tends to be out of date order. Consider the top half of this page my to-do list. Some things just take time. See also User:Risker/Copyedit Requests. Risker (talk)

Happy New Year

Ring out the old,
and Ring in the new.
Happy New Year!

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Happy New Year

Hope 2009 is a great year for you!--MONGO 15:39, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Happy New Year!

Dear Risker,

Wishing you a happy new year, and very best wishes for 2009. Whether we were friends or not in the past year, I hope 2009 will be better for us both.

Kind regards,

Majorly talk 21:19, 1 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Happy New Year!

Dear Risker, I hope you had a wonderful New Year's Day, and that 2009 brings further success and happiness! ~ Blnguyen (bananabucket) 05:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC) [reply]

Thanks for your message Risker. I don't think much of my comments made any impact, maybe my blog or my interview with the Indian newspaper?

Happy New Year!

Not late by Orthodox Christian calendar

Not that I want to make a habit of sending slightly screwy illustrations of holiday greetings, but here's another. Also, here's wishing you as trouble-free and vexless a new year as an arbitrator is likely to get (and congrats on that if I didn't congratulate you already, and if I did, well, double congrats). Now some say Mrs. 2009 could've made a better match than with the recently deceased Mr. 2008, but the estate lawyer, after pocketing his cut, thinks the December-January match worked out just fine (despite Mr. 2008's economic reversals). I'll leave it to others to decipher the look on his face and hers, but I do notice the old guy doesn't appear to have had much sleep the night before and his beard is strangely messy ... but never mind. RIP, Mr. 2008. -- Noroton (talk) 19:36, 4 January 2009 (UTC) [reply]

Heads up

Hi, just letting you know (as you edited Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Mattisse 3) that it has gawn live. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:12, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

"Gawn live"? Is that some kind of Aussie term? ;-) I noticed it had gone live, indeed. Despite the somewhat odd exchanges I've had with her in recent months (some of which have been noted in the RFC), I'm very hesitant to participate in RFCs. (And yes, I know that several of my faithful readers came to know me because of an outside view I posted in a certain RFC...) It is my sincere hope that Mattisse will take this to heart, and to understand that her behaviour sometimes causes as much harm as good. I know editors who won't go near FAC or FAR because she seems to take a disproportionate interest in any article they may comment upon; those editors know who they are, and I will leave it to them to detail their concerns. As to her comments directed to me, I prefer to simply correct her when she is in error, and to provide her with links to the information she has difficulty finding. We've agreed on some things and disagreed on others, and in that sense our "working relationship" is similar to that which I have with many other editors of all stripes and experience. I think I'll just AGF that she will find it in herself to understand the concerns being identified. Risker (talk) 04:50, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
True, the whole point of an RfC is it isn't supposed to be a lynch mob, and others are allowed to place outside points of view (which they have) with a different tone, and people can then comment there as well. I agree I hate these things too, but I felt it was necessary this time as previous requests have had no effect. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:55, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I truly thank you for this view, Risker. This RFC is very much like the allegations from two years ago, Wikipedia:Requests for comment/Mattisse, which turned out to have been filed by a pack of sock puppets of Category:Wikipedia sockpuppets of Ekajati. It is hard to see this current RFC as other than a lynch mob; why are such old allegations presented in an attempt to improve my attitude now? That a lynch mob has bothered to try to drag up every failing, even typos, does not seem to designed to promote good will in me but rather to drive me away. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 05:17, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Mattisse. I do hope that you *are* taking the comments at the RFC to heart, because there are some genuine concerns being expressed, and some very good suggestions for dealing with difficult situations. I do not see any editors commenting there who could possibly be accused of being sockpuppets, and I'm not seeing concerns expressed that predate your last RFC; links to prior RFCs are standard, and you aren't being singled out because of them. You continue to make many valuable contributions to the encyclopedia, but if one editor decides not to nominate an article for FAC, or chooses not to defend a FAR nomination because he or she finds your behaviour chilling, then it's the encyclopedia that loses: not me, not you, not that editor - the encyclopedia. We're all volunteers here, none more or less important than the other, but each of us have our own areas of specialisation. You've got a better than average skills set, so if you're finding one area stressful, you have the ability to work on other tasks where your contributions will continue to make a difference. When one area becomes onerous, I do encourage you to find a breath of fresh air in one of your other areas of skill; it will be no less valuable to the encyclopedia, and I hope it will help you to find a more positive frame of mind to continue your participation. Risker (talk) 06:12, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Risker. I would do as you suggest and examine and improve my behavior if the RFC had been presented in good faith aimed at encouraging this. But the RFC is so revengeful and ugly, meant to demean and destroy me, not to promote my improvement. They posted my every mistake, going back for over a year; even typos from FAC articles are listed. A few succinct recent examples would have done the job, if their intent was not to destroy. Clearly two people are seeking to drive me away from FAC. Reading the postings by Outside view by Snowman and Outside view by Durova give a different view of two indictments against me and present a more realistic picture. The same could be done for most of the other "evidence", as has been indicated on the talk page by other editors. I admit that I was not always tactful and could definitely improve, but this massive piling on, by a new arbcom member and the the FAC delegate I can only see as a lynch mob mentality. The energy that went into collecting so many mostly petty diffs belies any desire for the RFC to accomplish positive change. I misjudged the hate directed at me by these two people. Now I know I have two extremely vengeful enemies on a level I had not imagined before. Regards, —Mattisse (Talk) 10:37, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Unfortunately, Mattisse, this is the exact type of commentary that the RfC is trying to resolve. If you believe the diffs given are inaccurate or taken out of context, please say so (with supporting diffs) in the response section. Your point of view needs to be included for a balanced weighing, but diatribes and further accusations against Sandy (who did not certify the dispute) are not all that useful. Karanacs (talk) 21:05, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
I did my best but I don't keep a little black book of diffs to whip out in times like these. The diffs I looked at that were supplied in the RFC often did not support the contention being made. In one SandyGeorgia blames me for frustrating an admin, then that very day she votes against him for the way he treated me! Make sense of that. I can't do it. If it is worth it to put in an RFC that I make typos that I sometimes don't realize and correct, then I am unfit. One of the accusations was a mistake I made a few weeks after my first edit. How can I defend against not understanding a tecnical process as a newbie? How can I defend against making typos? This is over my head. I do not have the energy to go through all those diffs that have obviously been being compiled for over a year. I don't want to fill my head anymore with their ugly thinking. The intent is to drive me off and they will succeed. I am thankful though, to the many who Calisber contacted who either did not respond or responded with support. There are some good people here, I know that. But I am not up to this level of battle and hatred. Sorry, —Mattisse (Talk) 04:09, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Easy question

How do I get account creator permissions? I'm setting up a project for my students, and need to create quite a few accounts. As our school IP is blocked (we have a few persistent vandals), the students can not create the accounts themselves. Thanks for all you do (and put up with). You're a WikiSaint, for certain. SDJ 12:14, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Aww, you flatter me. You've got a valid reason for requesting account creator permission, and I don't see any issues in your logs. I'm not in a position to grant that permission from the computer I'm using right now, but will be able to do it later on this evening if one of the itinerant talk page watchers doesn't beat me to it (hint, hint). Risker (talk) 14:28, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks then, and could you point me where to go to get up to speed on best practices for useage of the AC tool? SDJ 15:00, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
 Done – iridescent 21:17, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Would you mind pointing me toward a tutorial on how to go about using the AC permission/tool? SDJ 21:20, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Can't help there, I'm afraid... I never understood it. – iridescent 21:22, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Well shoot. Perhaps Risker or one of her other TPWers can help me with that. SDJ 21:24, 5 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]
SDJ, I believe Wikipedia:Request an account/Guide is what you are looking for. Good luck with it; if you need some help, your best bet would be to find another account creator, which you can find by going to Special:ListUsers and selecting "account creators" as the Group. Risker (talk) 01:59, 6 January 2009 (UTC)[reply]

P.S.: Thanks, Iridescent!