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Water

I removed the phrase regarding water: Salgir is too small and polluted to be the water source. Anyway. it's not important - we don't usually specify where do cities get their water.AlexPU

Salgir is too small and polluted to be the water source.

O-la-la! Who told you this?! I've drunk water from Salgir many times, and I'm alive, you know. %))) And a half of the city is provided with Salgir water from the city's storage pond.

Don Alessandro 21:09, 5 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

It is true that there is a water reservoir on the Salgir upstream of Simferopol, though I am not sure how much of the city's water comes from there. Jbhood 10:56, 6 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

Etymology

I think the Greek etymology of Symferopol maybe is partial wrong: The substantive "symferon" (Συμφερον)" ancient greek meaning is closer to advantage/profit/interest/benefit - anything is good to someone. See here (Liddell-Scott-Jones Greek-English Lexicon) ^[1] b. in neut. as Subst., συμφέρον, οντος, τό, use, profit, advantage... Vardos (talk) 23:58, 17 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I don't know Greek or Russian, but we need to be consistent with ourselves. We currently say:

The name comes from the Greek Sympheropolis (Greek: Συμφερόπολις), meaning city of common good. in the Etymology section, and The name Simferopol is in Greek, Συμφερόπολις (Simferopolis), and literally means "the city of usefulness." in the Russian Empire and Civil War section. 155.213.224.59 (talk) 16:13, 29 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Russian is my mother tongue but it is nothing to help. We did not adopt any words of 'symf' root. Better ask Greek people. As far as I know Crimeans use 'usefulness' meaning, at least it is the literal translation of 'город пользы'. But 'pol'za' in Russian is not neutral term, it is very positive, more like 'beneficial'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:56A:71FC:6800:69FD:9933:E987:DBAD (talk) 18:21, 7 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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^ http://stephanus.tlg.uci.edu/lsj/#eid=10552&context=search:

Country

On other pages at the Wikipedia about disputed areas the country which controlls it get the label, for example: Arunachal Pradesh, Tawang District. It is also the most rational solution at any kind of encyclopedia not to comply with that what local or international law dictates, but the absolute physical characteristic. In this case maybe Ukraine, maybe Russia 'should' hold the label, but in reality it is the former for now. I understand it is quite a rare ocasion to see borders changing, so people don't have many opportunies to excercise their objectivism. So please consider keeping consistency. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.17.84.82 (talk) 09:35, 21 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Village pump discussion on neutrality in Crimea-related articles

Relevant discussion at

→ Wikipedia:Village pump (idea lab)#WP:NPOV and WP:UNDUE in Crimea-related articles

CodeCat (talk) 20:24, 21 March 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Reverted edit

I reverted an edit since I did not see any value (interchanging Russia and Ukraine), and it was immediately reverted without any explanation (no explanation was given for the orifinal edit either). If explanation is not forthcoming, I am going to bring the article back to the original state per WP:BRD.--Ymblanter (talk) 12:51, 28 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

No response in a day, reverting.--Ymblanter (talk) 11:57, 29 April 2016 (UTC)[reply]

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Technology

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Digital Valley (Tsifrovaya Dolina)

silicon industry, computers, wafers and microelectronics, it, other related. --~~ sameha

Done--Ymblanter (talk) 20:35, 21 July 2017 (UTC)[reply]

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Current edit wars with regards to the status of the city

During the past couple of weeks a few users (me included) have been edit warring on this page. Most disagreements seem to follow from the propriety of references to Russia's de facto control over the city and Crimea at-large. This edit war has led to some redundant passages such as the opening statement "Simferopol is [...] in Crimea, Ukraine. Simferopol [...] is internationally recognised as part of Ukraine". Ommitting Ukraine in the very first line, I think, made sense in the context of the entire paragraph, where the situation is explained. A similar issue arose in the section pertaining the 2014 referendum. Now we end up with two sentences about the international non-recognition of the results separated by a sentence on the city being named capital of a new Russian federal subject in Crimea. References in the infobox were also removed (federal subject within Russia, current [Russian] website of the city, etc.). I would like to point out that in similar cases of territorial disputes, such as the conflict in Artsakh/Nagorno-Karabakh, this information is displayed in the infobox (similarly, the wiki page about Stepanakert/Khankendi doesn't open with the line "Khankendi is a city in Khankendi district, Azerbaijan"). Even in cases such as Idlib, where the current occupiers do not demand seccession but merely aim to replace the current government, there's an entry on the infobox showing current control of the city with a wikilink to their corresponding Wikipedia page.

Summing up, I believe some of this edits negatively impacted on both the readability and the informative aspect of the page. With this in mind, I have changed a few things, which I hope will maintain the article neutral while remedying some of the failings I consider to exist. Of course, I could well be wrong. I would welcome feedback especially from user: Volunteer Marek and user:Dmytro91, but also from user:Mellk. Ostalgia (talk) 15:08, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

”Simferopol, Ukraine” or “city, country” is standard on Wikipedia. The “internationally recognized as part of Ukraine” is there for obvious reasons. This isn’t a “territorial dispute” - calling it that is a gross violation of NPOV and pushes Russian nationalist disinformation. It’s an occupation. Volunteer Marek 16:06, 4 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

[1] ttp://stephanus.tlg.uci.edu/lsj/#eid=10552&context=search:

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	Summing up, I believe some of this edits negatively impacted on both the readability and the informative aspect of the page. With this in mind, I have changed a few things, which I hope will maintain the article neutral while remedying some of the failings I consider to exist. Of course, I could well be wrong. I would welcome feedback especially from [[user: Volunteer Marek]] and [[user:Dmytro91]], but also from [[user:Mellk]]. [[User:Ostalgia\|Ostalgia]] ([[User talk:Ostalgia\|talk]]) 15:08, 4 September 2022 (UTC)		Summing up, I believe some of this edits negatively impacted on both the readability and the informative aspect of the page. With this in mind, I have changed a few things, which I hope will maintain the article neutral while remedying some of the failings I consider to exist. Of course, I could well be wrong. I would welcome feedback especially from [[user: Volunteer Marek]] and [[user:Dmytro91]], but also from [[user:Mellk]]. [[User:Ostalgia\|Ostalgia]] ([[User talk:Ostalgia\|talk]]) 15:08, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
			::”Simferopol, Ukraine” or “city, country” is standard on Wikipedia. The “internationally recognized as part of Ukraine” is there for obvious reasons. This isn’t a “territorial dispute” - calling it that is a gross violation of NPOV and pushes Russian nationalist disinformation. It’s an occupation.<small><span style="border:1px solid black;padding:1px;">[[User:Volunteer Marek\|<span style="color:orange;background:blue;font-family:sans-serif;">''' Volunteer Marek '''</span>]]</span></small> 16:06, 4 September 2022 (UTC)