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On 16 August 2022, it was proposed that this article be moved to MP4. The result of the discussion was Moved to MP4 file format.

MP4 and ISOBMFF are open formats, even if an access fee is required

According to Open file format, "the specification of an open format may require a fee to access". Some recent edits to the infobox have stated that MP4 and ISO base media file format (ISOBMFF) are not open (the same as a trade secret), referencing GitHub issues about ISOBMFF, which are not as reliable as the Library of Congress sources that state that both MP4 and ISOBMFF are open formats. The justification in those GitHub issues was that, because the standard is not accessible without a fee, it should therefore be considered not open, which is incorrect. Although MP4 and ISOBMFF are open, they are not free as they require paying licensing fees. This is also listed in their infoboxes. Fernando Trebien (talk) 14:45, 28 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

you're not editing in good faith. you've reverted several times without gaining consensus. also, you seem to be conflating the point of "is the format open" versus "is this link appropriate". tackle the issues separately. Svnpenn (talk) 01:34, 29 February 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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	According to [[Open file format]], "the specification of an open format may require a fee to access". Some recent edits to the infobox have stated that MP4 and [[ISO base media file format]] (ISOBMFF) are '''not open''' (the same as a '''trade secret'''), referencing GitHub issues about ISOBMFF, which are not as [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources\|reliable]] as the [[Library of Congress]] sources that state that both MP4 and ISOBMFF are open formats. The justification in those GitHub issues was that, because the standard is not accessible without a fee, it should therefore be considered not open, which is incorrect. Although MP4 and ISOBMFF are open, they are not free as they require paying licensing fees. This is also listed in their infoboxes. [[User:Ftrebien\|Fernando Trebien]] ([[User talk:Ftrebien\|talk]]) 14:45, 28 February 2024 (UTC)		According to [[Open file format]], "the specification of an open format may require a fee to access". Some recent edits to the infobox have stated that MP4 and [[ISO base media file format]] (ISOBMFF) are '''not open''' (the same as a '''trade secret'''), referencing GitHub issues about ISOBMFF, which are not as [[Wikipedia:Reliable sources\|reliable]] as the [[Library of Congress]] sources that state that both MP4 and ISOBMFF are open formats. The justification in those GitHub issues was that, because the standard is not accessible without a fee, it should therefore be considered not open, which is incorrect. Although MP4 and ISOBMFF are open, they are not free as they require paying licensing fees. This is also listed in their infoboxes. [[User:Ftrebien\|Fernando Trebien]] ([[User talk:Ftrebien\|talk]]) 14:45, 28 February 2024 (UTC)

			:you're not editing in good faith. you've reverted several times without gaining consensus. also, you seem to be conflating the point of "is the format open" versus "is this link appropriate". tackle the issues separately. [[User:Svnpenn\|Svnpenn]] ([[User talk:Svnpenn\|talk]]) 01:34, 29 February 2024 (UTC)