User talk:Blechnic

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Hi Blechnic

Please take a look at the edit at Graphics Lab when you have a chance and tell me if it's now correct. Cheers. Dhatfield (talk) 20:14, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

User page

Hi, you may like to create User:Blechnic as a user page, and put the list of pages you've created there, leaving this User Talk page for conversation. That's the usual way. Hope this helps, - Fayenatic (talk) 20:53, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Cenchrus echinatus

Good work on the copyvio article and good thinking creating that temp page. Made it really easy to move everything right in after deleting the copyvio! Cheers, Rkitko ^(talk) 22:04, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. While I'm thinking of it, last time I did this, make an alternative temp page it lead into my getting blocked and a month long battle. Since you're an admin can you just delete the other temp subpage, or do I have to tag it for deletion? Talk:Shrew's fiddle/Temp. Let me know. --Blechnic (talk) 22:13, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Done. I think there is a template for such a request, but you can just let me know if you need something like that if it's easier than sifting through speedy deletion templates. Cheers, Rkitko ^(talk) 00:27, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

FYI - if you use {{db-userreq}} on a page, it'll end up at CAT:CSD, and any admin will be able to find it and delete it for you. Hope that helps Fritzpoll (talk) 15:48, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Edit conflicts

Well, I'm not lightning, though I did try to do all that was required as fast as possible. Could you please restore your request yourself, if you'd still like it in there? I can't stand fiddling with that huge thread any more, sorry. Edit conflicts on ANI are always a bit of a nightmare. Bishonen | talk 22:38, 17 June 2008 (UTC).

Original

• Talk:Forsskaolea tenacissima
• Deux Balés National Park copied from:
• http://sea.unep-wcmc.org/sites/pa/0108p.htm
• Minkébé National Park
• Allium validum
• Felicia

Invite to review a set of articles

Hi there. You participated in this ANI thread. I picked out the names of some editors I recognised, or who had extensive comments there, and I was wondering if you would have time to review the articles mentioned in the thread I've started here, and in particular the concerns I've raised there about how I used the sources. Thanks. Carcharoth (talk) 09:55, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

I will review and rewrite, as necessary, these articles for you:

• Ramsay Heatley Traquair
• William Carmichael McIntosh
• Henry John Carter
• Central retinal vein
• La Ferté-sous-Jouarre memorial

I have had a couple of conversations on the issue with Carol Spears. In general, Curtis Clark has a good point, Wikipedia doesn't have a plagiarism alert, but this is usually the problem, plagiarism, not copyvios. Yet, I believe that Wikipedia copyrights its own work, and this makes plagiarism problematic, I believe. I'm not a lawyer.

Copying distinctive phrases from books without quotation marks

Unique descriptions and phrases copied exactly from books must be put in quotation marks as I did with "in the rock crevices and water-receiving depressions". It is not enough to correctly attribute the source, if the same exact phrase is used it must be in quotation marks. --Blechnic (talk) 00:22, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

In this case I would add, in addition to unique descriptions and phrases, entire sentences or longer portions of text. It's a simple guideline. --Blechnic (talk) 15:59, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Plagiarism guideline

Thanks for your comments at my talk page. I've proposed we create a separate plagiarism guideline (or rather, how to detect, deal with and avoid it). Please contribute at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Wikipedia:Plagiarism. Thanks. Carcharoth (talk) 20:14, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Great link to a plagiarism example

Acceptable and unacceptable paraphrases.[3] --Blechnic (talk) 23:12, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Re: David Lynch

The rule on biographies of living persons states that the entire article must be attributed to sources (Wikipedia:Verifiability also insists on this, but Wikipedia:Biographies of living people is extra insistent on it). The exception to the rule, of course, is for statements that are common knowledge (that is controversial). That every single statement has to be attributed to a source is not that inaccurate; a better way of saying it is that the entire article must cite sources. MessedRocker (talk) 09:15, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Just make sure the information is attributed to sources that are cited within the article. MessedRocker (talk) 23:50, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

The entire article must be based off of reliable, published sources, which are named within the article. MessedRocker (talk) 00:15, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Actually, you have it right. MessedRocker (talk) 00:20, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Plagiarism

Thanks for the heads up. I replied at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Continued plagiarism on DYK?. Northwesterner1 (talk) 18:27, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I appreciate the concern, which compelled me to find a better way to do things. The articles are improved as a result. Happy editing, Northwesterner1 (talk) 19:28, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

• Follow-up is here. Carcharoth (talk) 23:36, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Azorella selago

Noticed your new article and the red link in the first sentence. Cushion plant has been on my to-do list for quite some time now, as a few genera I work with have this habit: Forstera and Donatia. I have a couple references about cushion bog habitats and was wondering if you'd like to collaborate on a well-rounded start-length article. That is, of course, if you're interested at all. I'll probably get on it anyway since I'm tired of sifting through the backlog I have at User:AlexNewArtBot/PlantsSearchResult. A change would be nice. Well, let me know! Cheers, Rkitko ^(talk) 04:08, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

It's an annoying omission. I'm looking up stuff right now. Do you want to go first, and I'll just start editing what you have? Or shall I start? I'd rather plant people start plant articles, as it's easier for me. But I will start it if you don't have time. I was also trying to figure out if it had another name it might be under, but this page should have been a redirect if that were the case. --Blechnic (talk) 04:11, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

If you have the time and energy to do it now, by all means begin it. I'm not sure which time zone you're in, but it's about time I sign off and go to bed. I'll look in tomorrow and fill in with what information I have if you decided to make a go for it. Otherwise I suppose we can work on it as the weekend rolls on. Thoughts? --Rkitko ^(talk) 04:16, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Sounds good, if I get time, I'll start it. I live in the US on the Left Coast. --Blechnic (talk) 04:21, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Alright then. I'll probably catch you sometime tomorrow if you're around. Have a good evening! --Rkitko ^(talk) 04:23, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Cushion plant tagging

Hi, Blechnic. I've responded to your message on my talk page. Thanks, --Atomican (talk) 22:07, 22 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry!

Can you unstrike anything I shouldn't have struck that I didn't catch? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 08:09, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

I can't guarantee the information isn't wrong or nonsense, I was just checking to see if it's copyright infringing. But a good number are just of the order of "SPECIES, also called COMMON NAME is a plant in the GENUS genus, in the tribe TRIBE." - so we can probably dismiss those from our checks. That often doesn't use her sources very well is a secondary problem, and I don't know what we can do about that, short of doing the research properly and thus replacing them with better articles - which isn't really all that practical in the first instance. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 11:01, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Copyvio

Well, I've found one major copyvio: Thore Christian Elias Fries. Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 11:24, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Original Barnstar
		Hereby you are awarded a barnstar for your contributions to vegetation articles, agricultural pests, rivers in Africa, and geology. Your contributions to Lolium multiflorum especially caught the eye. May many more quality contributions follow! gidonb (talk) 11:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Clementine

I honestly think I've done all I could there, short of creating a third new article. That said, I can probably reference some of it using the old article. Would that help? Shoemaker's Holiday (talk) 17:21, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Madame Zingara‎

I've reverted Madame Zingara‎ to my carefully de-spammed version, work on it as you see fit. Phlegm Rooster (talk) 08:17, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

No problem

But why didn't you mention it earlier? I would have pulled it right away if someone had pointed it out to me. Gatoclass (talk) 07:15, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Yes, it's true that wikipedia is a maze, even I still have trouble finding my way around sometimes after more than two years on the project. However, WP:AN/I where you reported it today is a good place to start. You can also read the WP:COPYVIO page and figure out what steps you can take, I am not that familiar with handling copyvios myself so I can't give you much further information there. For copyvios on DYK, you can report them to any active DYK administrator or to AN/I and they will deal with it. Thanks, Gatoclass (talk) 07:38, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

a request

To keep the problems "less personal" please refrain from using my name in your edit summary. It is a wiki and anyone is allowed to edit and answer questions. Your summaries give the appearance of having different motives and I do not think that is the best approach for anyone to be taking ever here.

Thank you for your consideration in this matter. -- carol (talk) 08:49, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

a reply

To keep the problems less personal, please refrain from discussing your personal life in your replies, for example, just discuss what the Wikipedia topic. "This is a wiki and anyone is allowed to edit and answer questions. Your personal revelations give the appearance of having different motives and I do not think that is the best approach for anyone to be taking ever here."

"Thank you for your consideration in this matter."

Mutually, --Blechnic (talk) 13:53, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

and a thank you

For the opening that led me to be able to post that reply. I hope it works. --Blechnic (talk) 13:56, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Cushion plant

On 25 June, 2008, Did you know? was updated with a fact from the article Cushion plant, which you created or substantially expanded. If you know of another interesting fact from a recently created article, then please suggest it on the Did you know? talk page.

--BorgQueen (talk) 18:41, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

Sorry

Hey blechnic, I'm sorry for the tone of my response on WT:DYK. The thing is: I care so much about the accuracy and quality of this encyclopedia. And yeah, I was mad that you said I didn't care, just because I wasn't sure about the particulars of your proposal. I don't disagree that plagiarism is an absolutely huge problem. You're absolutely, absolutely, absolutely right. I care so much that I've spent literally hundreds of hours checking articles at Did You Know, trying to prevent it. But I'm not in charge, it's just volunteering for me, and it's not fun volunteering for me when I get accused of not caring -- caring is the only reason that I spent all that time volunteering in the first place. I'm really, extremely mad about people that plagiarize. So please recognize that I'm 100 percent against plagiarism, but it doesn't mean I'll agree with every remedy you propose. It honestly was not my intention to suggest that you're not intelligent (I was clumsily trying to defend my own hundreds of hours fighting against incorrect and low-quality articles), but it did read that way, and I sincerely apologize for that. I should not have responded in anger. The quality of the encyclopedia, not my pride, is the top priority. --JayHenry (talk) 01:43, 26 June 2008 (UTC)