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== Just stop now ==

Can you see how arrogant and patronizing your replies are?
You seem to be engaging in the same childish taunting at Talk:Fox News that you exhibited three weeks ago. I suggest you step back now and try to gain some self-awareness. Repeating yourself and getting personal does nothing to further the discussion. And just because you are careful to couch your remarks in somewhat diplomatic fashion does not exempt you from WP:civil guidelines. -<small>[[User:PrBeacon|PrBeacon]] [[User_talk:PrBeacon|(talk)]]</small> 01:55, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

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Please place new messages at the BOTTOM of the page. I detest stalkers, especially those who can't get their facts straight.


BJJFan

Hi Niteshift, I want to start updating some of the bjj fighters information on wiki.what would wiki consider reliable sources? I mean the only reliable source of bjj information seems to be from articles and news web sites spread out through the internet. Here are some examples: [[1]], [[2]] , [[3]], those are the major online news for bjj and mma in the world. They publish monthly magazines as wellI mean would you consider those reliable sources? If not we have to shut down every major bjj competitor, because most information come from these sites. Also I've notice some fighters are adding the tournament results and fight records, in which are detailed information about their matches, what do you think about that? --Bjjfan232 (talk) 03:17, 25 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Corkscrew store photo

that would be incredibly cool —Preceding unsigned comment added by Timothyapetty (talkcontribs) 01:13, 14 August 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Sean Hannity

Greetings, Niteshift! I've asked an admin whom I respect greatly to weigh in on the whole Sean Hannity/waterboarding/sock puppet issue. Though he and I have collaborated on several articles in the past, we come from very distinct worldviews. As a self-described conservative Christian, he's actually probably more inclined to side with you, although I trust him completely to strive for a neutral point of view. (Not saying you don't... but again, I've worked with him many times.) Mainly, I'm hoping he can get to the bottom of the issue of sockpuppets and SPA's thwarting our efforts at consensus building. Looking forward to working with him, and you! -- JeffBillman (talk) 23:52, 1 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Please don't think that I've supported the inclusion of the waterboarding statement because I want to see criticism of him for the sake of criticism — I believe that it's better included as an example of his political views on a touchy subject. And your userboxes — see mine if you've not already looked. I'm not suspecting you of being a staffer working with a hidden POV :-) Nyttend (talk) 13:19, 2 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]
  • After giving the matter quite a bit of thought, I decided I agree with you on the Hal Turner issue. It's just not notable to an article on Sean Hannity. Indeed, about all that is notable about Hannity's days at WABC is that which already appears in the article-- and I say that as a fan of Hannity since shortly before his leaving WGST. (Yes, really! A non-traditional Libertarian who is a fan of a faithful Catholic conservative. Whodda thunk it? ;-) ) What worries me, though, is how the article has been redacted to the point that it does now seem to be askew of NPOV. And although the POV I think it now represents is not my own, that does not make it any more worrisome to me than if it had taken a POV that more closely matches my own. Cheers! -- JeffBillman (talk) 00:49, 4 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I noticed that you been editing the Gang article . I just created a Portal (Portal:Gang) I need your help. If you have time, Can you help add some content to my portal. I would appreciate it, Thanks.--Zink Dawg -- 06:44, 3 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Hey there Niteshift! I've been in touch with Steve Fossum, the president of the ICSF, and we've been trying to work on getting the article up to notability standards. He sent me the following, and while it needs work, I'm wondering if the references he's provided satisfy your interpretation of the notability guidelines. Let me know what you think whenever you get a chance. Thanks in advance oceeConas tá tú? 21:47, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

International Sport Combat Federation - ISCF

The International Sport Combat Federation (ISCF) is an international sanctioning body regulating mixed martial arts and submission grappling and is based out of Newcastle, California, USA. http://www.iscfmma.com/ISCFLogoSMWH.jpg


WHAT IS THE ISCF? The ISCF was the first ever Sanctioning Body for the Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) created in 1999. Other than the annual ISCF Amateur World Classic (The Golden Gloves of MMA) The ISCF does not Promote events and is NOT a Promotional Company. The ISCF is a "Sanctioning Body" for Mixed Martial Arts (MMA) events just like other sanctioning bodies for fight sports (Kickboxing: IKF, ISKA, WKA, USKBA etc. - Boxing: WBC, IBF, WBC etc.).


SANCTIONING When the ISCF is called upon to SANCTION an event, the name of the event does not change. In fact, very little does change. The ISCF works with each Promoter and or Promotional Company individually. The ISCF assigns and approves all event officials that have been trained and certified as ISCF Officials.


RULES The ISCF is sometimes asked to follow the rules and requirements of a jurisdictions Athletic Commission of the region the event is promoted in. If so, some ISCF Rules and Regulations may vary to meet the requirements of the State or jurisdiction of the event.


The ISCF Mission For Mixed Martial Arts... "Safety, Credibility, Fairness, Recognition, Support & Unification of Mixed Martial Arts Around The World"

"The goal of the International Sport Combat Federation is to regulate safe and fair rules and regulations and help provide exposure and opportunities for local, regional, national and international competition among amateur and professional mixed martial arts fighters, trainers, promoters and officials. We will, through adherence to and enforcement of these rules and regulations, strive to make competitive mixed martial arts fighting a safe and fair sport as we continue to help bring exposure to and enhance the present as well as the future of the sport we serve, Mixed Martial Arts." Steve Fossum, President International Sport Combat Federation

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References Books and articles

http://www.cagepotato.com/2008/02/19/fight-magazine-exclusive-smoker

http://newsblaze.com/story/20090908155021zmil.nb/topstory.html

http://eon.businesswire.com/portal/site/eon/permalink/?ndmViewId=news_view&newsId=20070323105175&newsLang=en

http://worldextremefighter.com/2009/11/24/mma-scoring-system-needs-change/

http://www.fullcontactmartialarts.org/mma-mixed-martial-arts.html

http://www.extremeprosports.com/full_contact_fighting/amateur_grappling_venues.html

http://www.search.com/reference/International_Sport_Combat_Federation

http://www.legis.state.ga.us/legis/2005_06/pdf/sb224.pdf

http://www.yourinnerdragon.com/mixed-martial-arts-mma.html

http://www.prweb.com/releases/seemeactive/fightsports/prweb3156014.htm

http://www.whispy.com/martial-arts-resources.html

http://tn.gov/commerce/athletic/index.shtml

http://www.camplejeuneglobe.com/articles/2007/12/06/sports/base/onbase02.txt

  • Note - the ISCF is also the first and largest sanctioning body in the world oceeConas tá tú? 21:48, 28 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Just wondering why we still can't have our page up? Can someone contact us to let us know what we are STILL missing or not doing???

info@iscfmma.com

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.5.252.203 (talk) 02:40, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

There are 13 sources on that list. Of them, 10 fail WP:RS as reliable sources. 3 remaining three confirm that ISCF exists, which nobody disputes, but they don't provide significant coverage of the organization. The only one that comes close is the one from the News Blaze, but it focuses on the event, not on the organization. It sounds like it was a great event, but the article only states that you sanctioned it and that the ring girls were from the ISCF. Do you know of any articles that actually talk about the org? You know, something that say "this is who they are, this is what they do" kind of thing. Niteshift36 (talk) 02:48, 19 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Wikiwings

Wikiwings
For extraordinary contributions to Aircraft in fiction, thus improving hundreds of aircraft type articles along the way! - Ahunt (talk) 15:19, 5 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Barnstar

The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar
The Random Acts of Kindness Barnstar may be awarded to those that show a pattern of going the extra mile to be nice, without being asked.

This barnstar is awarded to User:Niteshift36, for his dedication to compromise and his ability to work with other editors to come up with amicable solutions which satisfy everyone. Thank you for your valiant efforts to the project. Ikip (talk) 02:59, 12 September 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Biographies of Living persons solution?

Please review this "projectification" proposal, to see if it is feasible. Harsh criticism is very welcome! I am looking to remedy any potential objections by the community. Your opinion is especially vital as someone who has different views than me, but still proposed the userfication idea.

Thanks. Okip (formerly Ikip) 03:06, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

7 days? I modified. I would like to leave it up to the individual project, but 7 days is fine. Good point. Let me know what you think of the modified version. Okip (formerly Ikip) 04:26, 8 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

wow, i could really like you

I love your user page, I love everything in your "My Boxes". Well, everything but coffee. No, that's not true, I love coffee too, I just can't drink it any more. Seems we got off to a bad start there in US Secret Service, did I strike a nerve? I see you (like myself) served in uniform. We both enjoy firearms, democracy, conservativism, martial arts, political incorrectness, fatherhood, and sci fi (the weirder the better).

Thanks for the tips on the standards to meet in putting together a new SS section.

Dave —Preceding unsigned comment added by DavesPlanet (talkcontribs) 23:40, 15 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Niteshift36, you're edits seem well put and truthful on the Fox News page. I have tried to make the lead of the NYT article congruent with the lead of the Fox News but the editors seem more interested in their bias opinion. It would be a great help to the wiki community if you reviewed my latest edit and post on the discussion page. Thank you! DeltoidNoob (talk) 22:00, 15 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Goon Affiliated

Hey do you think the stuff not covered in the source in the tracklist should just be removed and me and you work together to revert the unsourced changes and i'll also make a report at WP:RFPP so we can get long term protection this time. The {{cn}} tags make it harder to read. STAT -Verse 03:25, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I have the page in my watchlist so i know and appritiate your work to help this article out the best you can :). Protection might be a problem because im ussally good at getting articles protected but theres been this admin recently thats been a real dick recently and has been declining all my requests :(. STAT -Verse 04:05, 24 May 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Man I dont know what the real tracklist is anymore. First we had a tracklist from a source I forget then we have HipHopDX's then we have one from Allmusic. I would accept Allmusic's but my one thought against it is the fact that the single Medicine was left out. Its just confusing. STAT -Verse 22:21, 5 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well now that its protected again we won't have to worry about IP's for a while. Since the album comes out it two days someone will buy it and read the inside so we know the real producers for the songs. STAT -Verse 20:27, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Unless it gets delayed....again. LOL. Niteshift36 (talk) 21:04, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Request for mediation of Gun laws in the United States (by state)

A request for formal mediation of the dispute relating to Gun laws in the United States (by state) was recently filed. As an editor concerned in this dispute, you are invited to participate in the mediation. The process of mediation is entirely voluntary and focuses exclusively on the content issues over which there is disagreement. Please review the request page and the guide to mediation requests and then indicate in the "party agreement" section whether you would agree to participate. Discussion relating to the mediation request welcome at the case talk page.

Thank you, AGK 15:05, 1 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Hello, Niteshift36. I hope you will agree to this mediation, by posting the word "agree" and your signature at Wikipedia:Requests for mediation/Gun laws in the United States (by state)#Parties' agreement to mediation. I believe that for the mediation to proceed we need everyone to agree. It's possible that that would result in the removal of the Brady Campaign state scorecard from the article, which I'd really like. Whether or not you actually participate in the mediation discussion -- which hasn't officially started yet -- is entirely up to you, although I hope you'll do that too. Thanks. Mudwater (Talk) 00:27, 3 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I'm not sure, but we might need your agreement for the mediation to proceed. As I mentioned, your actual participation in the discussion would be encouraged but entirely optional. I'm curious about why you haven't responded so far, and hoping that you'll agree. Thanks. (If you reply here I will see what you say.) Mudwater (Talk) 13:37, 6 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

WP:NSPORT

Sorry I accused you of "picking on amateur sports." That sounds much worse in writing than I meant it to sound. Often, I feel that no one wants to tackle the one second in a pro game makes you notable rule because doing so will pit you up against handfulls of pro sports fans. For amateurs things can often be said with no response from the other side, so I often get overly defensive to compensate. In my defensive writing it may have been lost, but if you go back I think you'll notice that I am for keeping standards tight as well, in fact I was the one who suggested tightening the junior skaters section a while ago, well before this whole debacle. Look at "skating is way too lenient" in the archived discussions. I started that, and it still hasn't been resolved. I wanted to change competed in world junior champs to medaled, others seemed to disagree. I finally changed it from competed to competed in the free skate (which is the finals in figure skating, which by the way is much larger than track, so I agree it is still to lax). I also wanted to change national championship to national champion for a country that has a record of notable skaters, or something to that regard.

I am also sorry I kept on mentioning gymnastics, that was a bit personal when it came up in the original post since I have been the only one to create and edit that section and it is probably the toughest sport to get into in terms of notability, and I view it as a model to look up to. Plus despite my cries for help at the gymnastics project, no one has given any imput, so I never got any feedback. So I saw the word in your first post and I couldn't get it out of my mind, and just could not let it go even after you explanation. This was in poor taste on my part.

I know I can be harsh with my arguments, and sometimes downright rude, please forgive me. I also understand that it is important to have non track fans editing/overseeing the track section, and the same goes for all other sections. So I hope you continue to contribute to the conversation. While I think we disagree on a lot of things right now, I think we may be able to reach some sort of consensus for tightening. I have done it before on both sides of the aisle for multiple sports sections in this essay. I am truly interested in hearing your comments on the road racing section, as I also think this section has problems. As for the AfDs you were referring to I don't mean what I said disingenuously, if similar junior records for other sports are being rejected as reasons for notability at AfD lets talk about either how these world track records need to be deleted or how they are different than the ones under scrutiny at AfD. I do think my table of Olympic bronze medalists vs. world junior records is quite convincing, but if it isn't to you lets talk about why. --MATThematical (talk) 18:22, 2 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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Just stop now

Can you see how arrogant and patronizing your replies are? You seem to be engaging in the same childish taunting at Talk:Fox News that you exhibited three weeks ago. I suggest you step back now and try to gain some self-awareness. Repeating yourself and getting personal does nothing to further the discussion. And just because you are careful to couch your remarks in somewhat diplomatic fashion does not exempt you from WP:civil guidelines. -PrBeacon (talk) 01:55, 8 June 2010 (UTC)[reply]