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Welcome to my talk page, feel free to leave any feedback, criticisms, or questions here. If I left you a message on your talk page, I will be looking for a response there. Unless otherwise requested I will answer all comments on the page that they were made, as it serves no purpose to fragment conversations.

Its a lot easier to track conversations on one page, and is pointless to do otherwise. Also, please sign your posts and please exercize civility.
I would also like to ask that you do not make changes to the layout of this page or to anyone else's comments.

Also, please do not revert anyone else's comments on this page. Even if someone makes a personal attack on me, I am interested in what he or she has to say, and I will aknowledge their concerns. However, I will not tolerate personal attacks aimed at other editors besides myself here. Those attacks will be reverted, and further action will be taken with up with an administrator hopefully resulting in a ban. --Thank you, Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@

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Meelar (talk) 05:45, 10 November 2005 (UTC)

Username change

Your request has been completed. — Dan | Talk 07:28, 25 November 2005 (UTC)

Image placement vote

Hello, it's MegamanZero, and I've gotten into a conflict with the Orgy over his needless image placement and excessive quotes on the Iori Yagami page. So, I've decided to hold a vote (like on the Ryu charaacter page) concerning which version should be used. The vote can be found here. Please vote your opinion on the matter and thanks for your time! -MegamanZero 18:03, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Voted. I see your point too. The article with all those pictures and quotes has so many problems with it, that if a trimmed down earlier version didn't already exist then it might as well be blank and started from the beginning. The only thing that will save it is a previous revision.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 19:23, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Mentorship

If you ever need help or advice, just ask on my talk page. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 09:34, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Will Do, thanks a lot.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 17:42, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Thesis MK- II

Mind looking at this, and telling me what you r opinion on the talkpage..? Thanks..! -MegamanZero 16:39, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Feedback provided. You really dont need to let me know what happens with the article anymore. I watch almost every article I get involved in and stay pretty up to date on them, come to think of that, I should note that on this page.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 17:41, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

• Okay, please look at the talkpage and make a respone-I'm itching to start wikifying this article, and we need to reach concensus before anyone starts editing. -MegamanZero |transerver 19:28, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Informal Mentorship

User:MegamanZero assigned me as your mentor. While I feel honored to be look up to for guidance (by him), he has no official status to assign random people for me to mentor. However if you want I can be your mentor.

This will be a gentleman's agreement and will not have any offical or binding value. Hence it will be informal. --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 21:29, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

I'm good with that. --Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 21:38, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

Ok, feel free to ask anything on my takl page. :) --Cool Cat^Talk|@ 21:09, 15 December 2005 (UTC)

Re: Protecting Leet

I think, for now, I'll leave it as such. If things get further out of hand I'll protect it. NSLE _(T+C+CVU) 00:09, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Ok, thanks a bunch for your time.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 02:24, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Overhall

Felt I needed a change, so I went crazy and did this. Cool, neh..? -MegamanZero|Talk 16:12, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Vanity at its finest. Not bad I must say, but you have to realize that you aren't going to need anywhere close to that much space for awards.  :) --Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 16:47, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

• True. But when I formatted the javascript, the only way I could make a sidebar was to make it match the space of the comment bar. Oh well, I'll just put other stuff in there as well; its not like I labled that space "awards". -MegamanZero|Talk 16:59, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

I think we both know what your true agendas were eh? Personal advice though: While JavaScript is awesome, extremely so, you may want to caution yourself in its use, as some browsers still dont support it correctly. Now that normally doesn't matter but on wikipedia it might. I'm not sure of the statistics on who uses what to come here.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 17:00, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

• Don't know what you're thinking, but I did it because I finally had to archive my comments on my talkpage, and I thought "Why not just overhall the whole thing..?" I think the end product turned out quite well. Now I just need to learn how to make a javascript box that will make my userpage design match my talkpage (you know, make it envelop in gray). -MegamanZero|Talk 17:06, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

Megatokyo

Thanks for cleaning up my Changes section on the Megatokyo article. To respond to your comment about its importance I think its just as important as the switch from cideogame humor to different humor. -- Psi edit

No problem. And about importance, I dont see any reason to get rid of it but others might, so you may just want to be ready to defend that point.----

Fighting Game Developer List

I recently browsed the website and found this page:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fighting_game_developers

It has a plethora of information, but it is missing at least one important developer. Knowing that you are an enthusiast of DOA, I am sure you have better knowledge of its developer and franchise history than I do. DaDoc540 05:08, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Thanks. I added what I could, but I'm in a tough situation right now editing with my keyboard on my lap and my mouse on top of my monitor (don't ask), so I cant make long edits as it takes20 friggin minutes to spellcheck my current ones. I'll try to make a more in depth edit later.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 05:03, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

re:Category:Wikipedians by D&D Alignment

I noticed you are categorized as a Wikipedian by alignment. If you are in to userboxes, there are now infoboxes available using a standard template. See the alignment category page for details. This is a copied announcement, please reply on My Talk Page or in the category talk if you have any questions. xaosflux ^Talk/_CVU 18:51, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Sileighty page

Added my two cents to the name change, and the IP you mentioned is not me. My last IP's went up to Limousine for the first one and then the second one was in Japan Cup before I registered due to the whole libel lawsuit Wikipedia had.

Ah, well I hope that other person does surface again so I can discuss some of the article's points with them. Either way, thanks for your contributions to the article.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 08:05, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Counter Un-civility Unit

Wikipedia:Counter Un-civility Unit is a new wiki-project I have thought up. I was wondering if you thought it was a good idea and if you wanted to join up. I need some users backing me before I construct a wikiproject, and you seem to share my views on subjects such as concensus, civilty, etc. Reply on my talkpage if you're interested. Thanks, -MegamanZero|Talk 16:30, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

I left a response to the project in its section on your talk page.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 08:04, 7 January 2006 (UTC)

References

I think these are not properly "References" since they aren't formatted as references, nor is there any indication (footnotes) to show that they were actually used in the writing of the article. -- Netoholic @ 21:37, 18 January 2006 (UTC)

Probably true. I'm going to look up the references and cross-reference them with the article to find information that is either identical or supported, and I'm going to try and do the same with a few more sources.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 05:21, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Template:D&D-stub image

Hi. I noticed you removed the D&D icon from Template:D&D-stub, with the note that its use in a template is counter to Wikipedia policy. Can you refer me to the policy? Thanks, GRuban 16:46, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

IFD

I have placed most of the new images (and the old) from the Dead or Alive articles up for deletion. You may wish to contribute on the ensuing discussion which can be found here. -Zero^Talk 16:55, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

DOA images

The following is an archived discussion from MegamanZero's talk page, copied over on 16:03, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

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You seem to be cleaning a lot of these out. I dont think this is necessary. A couple are orphaned, but as for others, you seem to want to keep all articles down to one image (I may be mistaken but thats how it seems). It can be of interest to include multiple images of a character, specifically if they are game art. Whenever available, it is a good idea to include 1 game screenshot of a character, and at least 1 portrait or low resolution example of an artistic render. Specifically as in Image:Tina Armstrong DOA.jpg and Image:Ayane DOA.jpg. At the very least, this images should have been removed from the article in question and a note of this should have been made there before nominating them for deletion.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 21:09, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

I'll remove said images after their deletion. And you echo my thoughts on the image capacity for each respective article. However, some uploaders are getting carried away, aand I'm simply cleaning up the unneeded pictures. An encylopedia should be extensive, not exhaustive. -Zero^Talk 21:12, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

I see no reason for Image:Kasumi_DOA4.jpg or Image:Tina Armstrong DOA.jpg to be deleted. Two images on each article is adequate, and it is not necessarily enough to have just the infobox portrait.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 21:15, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

The Kasumi image is redundant in comparison to the DOAU image that was present previously. The TIna image is unencyclopediac and informs the reader of little. I plan to replace that with a more suitable Bodyshot image in the near future. -Zero^Talk 21:19, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

In which case I would urge you to leave it until that time. As for removing them after a deletion goes through, unless I am mistaken it is policy, or at least standard practice, not to nominate an image while it is still in the article unless it is a CV. AS for the kasumi image, something can only be redundant if another simmilar item is present (which is not currently) and a high quality shot that is more than a head shot certainly adds to the article.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 21:36, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

I cannot possibly refrain from leaving them alone. Could you please tell me why I should...? I'm utterly baffled. There's no reason to have a oudated pic of Tina that provides nothing to the article and two images of Kasumi which depict the same posisition. Not to worry however, I'm searching for an updated pic as of now. -Zero^Talk 21:40, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

My point is that you might as well just take it off the article. And especially on the Kasumi imgages, the headshot up for deletion seems way better than the one already there, and what two depicting the same position? There's only that one besides the head shot in the article.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 22:11, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

How right you are. I'll remove it right now. And I am refering to these imags concerning the Kasumi article:

• Image:Kasumi DOA.jpg
• Image:Kasumi DOA4.jpg

They both depict bodyshots and the first image is more preferable due to her ninja attire (her "canon" outfit) and larger view of the character in question. -Zero^Talk 02:54, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

I take that back, I forgot about that image. As for the headshot though, I think the one up for deletion is more suited for the article. The current attire choice seems just slightly unnecessary and the other one seems like a better angle but that might be personal preference. Should I crop it and replace the existing version with it to see how it looks?--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 03:11, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

I suspect you know better than I. So go for it; I'll swith the image for deletion and delete the DOAU image instead. -Zero^Talk 03:16, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

I resized the newer headshot image (for purely space concerns) as there was not much cropping I could see to be done, but per discussion I replaced the existing image with it. You may want to withdraw the nomination for deletion, but I leave that up to you as it is more or less improper for anyone else to actually withdraw a nomination other than the one who did it. I love it when a dispute comes together to make things work eh?--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 16:03, 27 January 2006 (UTC) (Note: I am archiving a copy of this discussion on my talk page for future reference).

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Hey people. Im also with the images issue (along with Zero). I think we need to prevent this by asking one request of the Wiki policy to include requests not to remove images from pages. -- Psi edit 18:52, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

I'm not entirely sure what you mean.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 19:08, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

We should have some notice on a Wiki Official page about how images shouldnt go unused. Like we have some images that have been removed from pages but remain in existence on Wikipedia. Those images should be

• used
• deleted

-- Psi edit 21:21, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Not a bad idea, have you raised this with Zero yet? I think the best idea is to start a Wiki-Project:Image improvement or something simmilar, because this will require a lot of discussion, and probably an RFC before it can be made policy.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 21:34, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

A wiki project,...? Sounds like an exellent idea. Please indulge me furthur on what you two have in mind. Also, Oni, I have replaced the Tina image in the lower right hand corner of her article; thus the previous unockable bikini image is now classified as OP. -Zero^Talk 10:57, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Well I tried sending somehting here earlier, no response. Probably should forward that to a Wiki official. However if you 2 can reword our point better then perhaps you should do that. P.S. Zero whats OP. -- Psi edit 19:44, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do about rewording the explanatory thesis regarding the Wiki-policy. And OP is an abbreviation for "orphaned", as the previous Tina image is no longer in use. -Zero^Talk 20:11, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

Template:D&D-stub image: take 2

Hi. This is my second attempt at asking this question, since Jan 26. I noticed you removed the D&D icon from Template:D&D-stub, with the note that its use in a template is counter to Wikipedia policy. Can you refer me to the specific policy that you're referring to? Thanks, GRuban 17:06, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I missed the previous entry. Anyways, its really rather simle, and is layed out in Template:Logo itself. When the image still existed (it doesn't anymore) it was tagged as a logo. As such it is only to be used in the terms outlined on the template used to tag it. Logos get misused a lot, and the most frequent use of this is in templates and userboxes. The only pages the logo would appropriately be used on are the Dungeons and Dragons page itself and perhaps the page for the creators or developers if it made enough note of it on the page. But otherwise, no. Not only is there no need to have the icon in the template, but it violates Wikipedia's image copyright policy. Jimbo himself has expressed how important it is to make sure these policies are upheld.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 18:58, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. Will try to find or make a better one. GRuban 14:22, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks

My internet connection was yo-yo'ing and SSH was crashing when I was sending the KILL command to the server whereUser:Tawkerbot was operating, sorry about the issue, it was another long term admin who suggested subst'ing unsigned. Tawker 16:04, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Ah,I see. It may be something to go back and sub in the future, but for now this is probably best.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 20:41, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Lol, both your usernames started with an "s" - I think thats how I got confused :) -- Tawker 07:08, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

"Huh? an "s"? --Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 07:10, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Wikibreak

Welcome back. -Zero^Talk 20:46, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Looks like I got caught pretending to be asleep no? I am still not going to be 100% active though.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 20:52, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

I can't afford to enforce the luxary of an break. I'm working on an new project, whilst still copyeditting on my previous one. I'm doing intensive research, and in the process of creating even more articles from scratch. Perhaps an wikibreak is warrented after I've completed this. -Zero^Talk 21:22, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

If you're at all like me, (and I'd hope for your sake not) you might want to use the Template:Attempting_wikibreak. Because its hard to enforce a definite one, you know you'll drop by to check on things. My only real project, which entails cleaning up and updating the Category: Initial D related articles, has been going reasonably smoothely with the exception of one fancruft incident in which the revertee got somewhat irate, but its not my problem since I told him it was something for everyone to talk about together and he did the ever classic "fine then I dont care, its not worth my time, etc." Aw who am I kidding?? I never even went on break... haha--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 22:05, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

Wikibreak seems to be out of the question. I've found an new batch of articles to expand here. I've also encountered an bit of an irritation while doing my projects, and It's difficult to swallow. Frequently users will construct blank articles, and then not bother to write anything for the character [1]. Then I must go after them and do all the work [2]. This has happened on an great deal of articles, and it needs to stop. -Zero^Talk 19:25, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Rfc

Hello Oni. Forgive me, but I'm not quite sure what happens in the RFC process. I understand I should probably just RTFM here but I'd like some pointers. Should I just follow the instructions at WP:RFC? Should I hold off for a while or just do it now? I'm new to using RFC so your help is appreciated. Thanks! Isopropyl 06:56, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, it would more than likely go in the Language and linguistics section. a Brief explanation of the issue at hand (whether or not the article should be merged) followed by a datestamp ( ~~~~~ ) is all thats needed. No user signature. I would hold off on this though. Give it about a week to reach consensus. I think we'll have concluded something by then. This is not a last resort per se, but it is something to save for after a serious attempt to discuss the issue and reach a consensus. I dont think we'll even need an RFC, but its good to keep the option open. --Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 15:56, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you. Hopefully we can work something out. Isopropyl 21:16, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

What I would reccoment for now is to get input from specific people in which you have interacted with in the past, and respect the opinion of. I already did that by speaking to User:Brian0918 since he has worked on the article before. I may ask a couple more people. As well. I find this to be a nice step to take before an Rfc. No better or worse, but it does offer the chance to get a more relevant opinion, although the added neutrality of an RfC is great as well. I also found the link that illustrates my beef with straw polls, and why I think they are devil work.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 21:25, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Hmm, yes, polls are not terribly effective. Kinda wish Brian wasn't so quick to jump all over me about it though. Isopropyl 21:30, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

He kinda does that. But we all have our quirks, and if you ask me, thats what makes Wikipedia so great. --Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 21:38, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Initial D

I will happily leave it under plain old "film stub". Someone else put it in the category "Japanese films" so I was trying to tidy it away into a sub-stub. Perhaps you should propose a Chinese film stub. Cheers, Her Pegship 02:14, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

No problem. Since you had added it a second time I figured the edit summary got buried beneath the edits after it, and that I should mention it directly in case it happened again.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 02:29, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

DOA articles

Good news. I finally finished inserting gameplay sections into each and every Dead or Alive character article. I can now move on to other things. :) -Zero^Talk 02:32, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Good luck with that. I made a note on the main DOA game article's page about the apparent NPOV removal you may have an interest in.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 02:38, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I noticed that. Good point. I suggest you insert whatever you feel is valid back into the article. -Zero^Talk 02:49, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

240SX Performance Modification Wikibook

hey I did some work on the 240SX page with you and I just started a wikibook I think you might be interested with helping out on: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Nissan_240SX_Performance_Modification I'm diving in head first to get some stuff on there but your help is welcome Sean1978 00:19, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Consider me involved. Wikibooks account is same name.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 04:29, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

aqua teen hunger force

hello, i found you from the athf page, do you know anything about the movie or interesting information about the show, i am a new fan of this halarious show. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.25.138.211 (talk • contribs)

Pretty much all of the existing verified information is in the article. Other than that all I can really tell you is that wikipedia isn't a fansite. Not to be harsh but any discussion on user talk pages should probably stay wikipedia related, and respectively, discussion on article talk pages should really remain related to the development of the article.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 04:00, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

Religion-X's teaching on marriage

Hi, thanks for your attention at the religions' teaching on marriage move request. Would you be so kind as to vote in the survey? No pressure. Zargulon 17:32, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

User:65.6.4.143

Hi. I understand how you feel, but please cool down. There's no logical reason to stoop to another person's unacceptable behavior outbursts[3]. Rest assured this chap will be dealt with shortly. -Zero^Talk 17:45, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

Does this sastify you..? -Zero^Talk 17:47, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

First off my response to his actions was in no way stooping to his level of outburst. I told him to expect a block, which should be delivered due to a combination of personal attacks and vandalism [4].--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 18:28, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

You're right. I was mistaken; I thought you responded with that comment he changed of yours earlier. This situation seems to have taken care of itself now nonetheless. -Zero^Talk 04:41, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Spoiler tag

[5]Okay. But only until Dead or Alive 5 is released. :) On another note, see this and this for my reasonng why I use spoiler tags sparingly. -Zero^Talk 18:57, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

I agree that the tag is an unsightly mess but until Wikipedia:Spoiler warning isn't a guideline anymore it seems to me that it would be best to follow it when in doubt.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 20:36, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

I'm not in doubt in the least. I do what's apropriate for the encyclopedia. Its as said, if a person what's to avoid "spoilers", they shouldn't be anywhere near the vicinity of an encyclopedia. -Zero^Talk 23:38, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Probably true. The only thing is that the best way to change it would be to approach it directly via the guideline. While its not policy, its still to be followed for the most part.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 00:22, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

You're right. I'll do it soon enough. Also, I've placed myself on WP:ER. If there's anything you feel like saying, feel free to post over there. -Zero^Talk 04:38, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Leet

Sorry if I mess this up, I'm not quite sure how to use it. Anyway, to clear up my Magic the Gathering reference on the Leet page, both cards are in leet Niv-Mizzet is just written sideways on the flavor text (you must rotate it clockwise 90 degrees and it reads "Niv-Mizzet=1" and despite not being a legal card Magical Hacker was made as a real card by Wizards of the Coast as part of an expansion and constitutes a pop culture reference. Also I know that the term pwn started on Startcraft, not counter-strike. The location is debatable and I can understand you removing it. Let me know whether or not I can put the card examples back up. I do not have an account so just message me however you did it the first time, I expect to hear back. Also it may be a good idea to message people before deleting submitted info, that way people can clarify misunderstandings before having to repost submissions. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.219.224.159 (talk • contribs)

If thats true go ahead and add it back in I guess. As for the pwn thing though, there has been a long and tedious debate on the pwn page. It is most certainly not starcraft of counterstrike, as it is shown to be older than either, and without sources its moot either way. Seeing as how wikipedia is a constantly references source that is frequently edited with false data, it is important to correct apparent falsehoods immediately, and talking it out may not always be a timely solution since it can be done later. If you plan on discussion edits in depth in the future, it may be prudent to create a user name.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 04:41, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Hey Oni, I found this, (→Origins of Leet - please write sentences, real ones, with real punctuation. "--" is not punctuation.) as one of your edit summaries and I felt I might want to tell you. An emDash is acceptable punctutation used primarily in bradcast journalism it indicates a longer pause then a comma and is used to add extra information — and content — to an article. I think the technical name is an extended dash (Update its an emDash), but I'm not certain. I do know that wiki software, however is different from MS word — a dash dash in MS word comes out as one long dash — and can cause confusion. Your version is still better written though, so I'm not going to change anything, just thought you might to know. Peace -- Dragoonmac - ^{If there was a problem yo I'll solve it} 23:10, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

For the purpose of wiring a presentable document, -- does not represent any kind of grammatically correct punctuation. It is only acceptable in something that is intended to be spoken, as audible markup like you said. I'm just sick of people using dashes and parenthesis, even quotes and boldface and so on where they definitely dont belong in articles. --Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 23:20, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: User talk:72.161.208.238

If you spent less energy on being beurocratic and more energy on being constructive then it would work to everyone's benefit. You've apparently gone to considerable effort and typing over this, but to what end? - To make sure nobody is helped? Does it give you some sort of satisfaction to know that you enforced your interpretation of some arbitrary rule about what should and shouldn't be on a Wikipedia talk-page?... The text-zoom issue is something which affects every Firefox user who likes to browse at a bigger text size, and particuarly those who use Wikipedia. If answers are found this could help improve and expand the Wikipedia articles on Firefox so that they're more helpful to readers. It could also end up helping to improve the MediaWiki software and the Wikipedia experience for everyone. If you're gonna go to all that effort and do all that typing then why not offer a solution to this problem. Or if you don't have one then just leave it alone, or better yet, if you were gonna be going to all this effort, you could have text-zoomed yourself to verify the problem and then (assuming you're more farmiliar with Wikipedia than I am), you could have referred the issue to the apropriate Wikipedia tech people. And doing all of that would have been less effort and typing on your part and would have accomplished a lot more...Wikipedia is supposed to be a community where everyone works together to improve things for everyone! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.161.208.238 (talk • contribs)

Wikipedia is a community in which everyone works to improve the encyclopedia for everyone, not life as we know it or some other sweeping generalization. Please dont cite generalized talking points out of context. If you can find citeable 3rd party reference to this as an issue, it may be warranted in the article. Otherwise, its uselss to wikipedia, and the article, and as a result does not belong on the talk page. Its really that simple. If its a problem with wikipedia software there is a more relevant place for that. If it is a firefox zooming problem as a whole, it may belong on the article as long as, as I've already stated, you can cite a source per WP:CITE and WP:NOR. Also, if you had continued to read the header of my page, you would have noticed that I expect replies where the original message left. There is no need to fragment the conversation. Just because you dont like the way things work on wikipedia doesn't mean you can circumvent the rules.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 16:05, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

The Depot (citation)

Thankyou all for editing my depot paragraph, it is now a valueable addition to this article, with further examination, no im pretter sure it does not need parenthetical citation, this change is only temporary. (This "invalid explanation" used to be on the article though its purpose may have been.... ignored.)

Miish111 at some point, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

EDIT: sorry if that seemed blunt or rude:

"I think the teleport exploded just as we were porting out."

alyx vance chapter 10, d3_c17_01

Dude, ask valve, valve = source

most old buildings in poor shape getting fried up by a combine dark tunneling devise, may not survive.

really, what does that mean citation (in this use) i didnt know you had to cite stuff you wrote..

Thanks.

Miish111 8:17, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

I beilive this conversation is being moved to the article itself, ok. Miish111 04:19, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I didn't check my messages until after I ad already replied there so if you prefer it might as well be kept there, so everyone can see it without having to look for it.--Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 05:28, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

IP vandal/content dispute

I feel obligated to point out that according to WP:VANDAL spamming links is considered vandalism. You misinterpreted my report as a content dispute. Adding unrelated links, presumably for personal gain is considered vandalism and is instructed to be treated as such. This user has gone through the appropriate warnings, and the appropriate action was taken up to the point of the intervention page [6]. Please reconsider taking the appropriate anti-vandalism action against this user since their actions most certainly qualify as vandalism, and my actions constitute attempts to deal with that vandalism, not a content dispute. --Oni Ookami Alfador^Talk|@ 19:44, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Hello. I agree that repeated spamming is vandalism. But this was not a clear-cut case of spamming. When I followed the link, it appears that it is at least related to the topic at hand. Given this, I do not believe that there was sufficient warning to the user of inappropriate behaviour to warrant blocking. For example:

• There is no discussion on the cited article talk page about external link being inappropriate.
• The IP's talk page only has see generic vandalism warnings. (e.g. if the {{spam}}, {{spam2}} & {{spam3}} warnings were used, that would be much clearer)

-- JamesTeterenko 20:20, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

Response from Porsche997SBS

Hello Oni Ookami Alfador, to answer your question I took your advice. Thank you for pointing out the discussion in Wii's Talk section. Next time I'll be sure to check the talk page if this situation comes up again. And it's okay to put your information in the wrong section, I'm happy to fix it. I don't think it's unlikely to keep up my format; I don't get too many edits and I have plenty of time on my hands. Thanks for the helpful critisism and advice!--Porsche997SBS 21:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)