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| starring = '''[[Bill Kirchenbauer]]''' as Graham T. Lubbock<br>'''[[Deborah Harmon]]''' as Elizabeth Lubbock<br>'''[[Heather Langenkamp]]''' as Marie Lubbock<br>'''[[Jamie Luner]]''' as Cindy Lubbock<br>'''[[Brooke Theiss]]''' as Wendy Lubbock<br>'''[[JoAnn Willette]]''' as Connie Lubbock<br>'''[[Matt Shakman]]''' as Graham (J.R.) Lubbock Jr.<br>'''[[Heidi Ziegler]]''' as Sherry Lubbock<br>'''[[Jason Korstjens]]''' and '''[[Jeremy Korstjens]]''' as Harvey Lubbock<br>'''[[Frank Bonner]]''' as Father Robert Hargis<br>'''[[Evan Arnold]]''' as Gavin Doosler<br>'''[[Dennis Haysbert]]''' (1988-1989) as Coach Duane Johnson<br>'''[[Lou Richards]]''' (1989-1990) as Father Bud<br>'''[[Maxine Elliott]]''' (1989-1990) as Sister Ethel |
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== THIS is the wikipage for the Film. == |
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I placed the hangon tag, I don't believe the person who tagged it understands what is happening. |
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Fast Five (disambig) has links to three topics, with Fast Five being a link to the disambiguation page. |
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Fast Five should only have a LINK to the movie page, just as "Fab Four" doesn't jump you into the Beatles.[[User:Wikip rhyre|rhyre]] ([[User talk:Wikip rhyre|talk]]) 18:06, 19 July 2010 (UTC) |
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[[User:Wikip rhyre|rhyre]] ([[User talk:Wikip rhyre|talk]]) 17:45, 19 July 2010 (UTC) |
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== Content suggestions == |
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The vast majority of this article has absolutely nothing to do with an upcoming movie. Per [[WP:NOTNEWS]], I don't think Wikipedia should have an article detailing the week by week events involved in filming. Even if this can survive Speedy Deletion, though, it certainly wouldn't survive a PROD, per the criteria regarding future films in [[WP:NFF]]. Thus, per [[WP:SNOW]], we should go ahead and speedy delete anyway. Once this film has started principal photography and the production is notable itself, then an article can be created. [[User:Qwyrxian|Qwyrxian]] ([[User talk:Qwyrxian|talk]]) 02:40, 20 July 2010 (UTC) |
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Wikipedia is not the place for a week to week acount for the making of a film, although i do think the article should stay, be cut to a minium until the film is released and focus on the key point that the film is being made. [[User:Atkinsonhd|Atkinsonhd]] ([[User talk:Atkinsonhd|talk]]) 03:49, 20 July 2010 (UTC) |
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:Some seem to be calling for edits to the article to reduce the amount of content, others for deletion. I didn't create the original content of the page, merely cut/pasted it from the overly generic [[Fast Five]] page (which others keep trying to replace with the Film Content, despite it being a working title). |
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:: My suggestions are |
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::: Please review [[Amors Baller]] to see if that's a more suitable model for an upcoming film, and comment here. |
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::: <strike>Please review the page for [[Fast Five]] and comment here, suggesting whether or not THAT content should be moved here to create the smaller article. Be aware that anonymous fanboys of the movie series may revert your work for a time.</strike> |
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:::[[User:Wikip rhyre|rhyre]] ([[User talk:Wikip rhyre|talk]]) 16:56, 20 July 2010 (UTC) |
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Rhyre, you're correct that, if the movie deserves an article, it should be here under "Fast Five (film)," and "Fast Five" should be a disambiguation page. However, if the problem is that the disambiguation page is being vandalized, the solution is not to create an article that doesn't meet notability--it's to defend the disambiguation from vandalizing (possibly through some level of protection, depending on who's vandalizing). [[User:Qwyrxian|Qwyrxian]] ([[User talk:Qwyrxian|talk]]) 13:56, 21 July 2010 (UTC) |
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:: I will request "semi-protection" for the [[Fast Five]] page as it exists now, to prevent anonymous edits. The initial problem that motivated this change was anonymous IP users inserting random movie factoids into a page called [[Fast Five]]. [[Fast Five]] originally linked to the section of the "Fast and the Furious article" which was where the upcoming movie existed. Principal photograpy has commenced as of July 2010, so the section really does qualify for an article (principal photography is one of the WP:NFF tests). (You can join the debate at the AfD discussion) [[User:Wikip rhyre|rhyre]] ([[User talk:Wikip rhyre|talk]]) 15:54, 21 July 2010 (UTC) |
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:: Is [[Lucas Black]] even confirmed for the film? I haven't heard a thing about his involvement in the film, if i'm wrong I apologize. Unless we have concrete proof like a tweet from him or a set photo, I think we should keep him off of the page. <small><span class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Florez411|Florez411]] ([[User talk:Florez411|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Florez411|contribs]]) 03:30, 25 July 2010 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Significant removals == |
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I just removed three long sections from the article. Please know that I'm not trying to influence the deletion discussion; even if the article is kept, I am certain those sections had absolutely nothing to do with the film or the production. The first section I deleted was about some sort of Green viral advertising campaign or contest; the second was about increasing green energy in Puerto Rico; and the third was about the goal of the government to improve the PR film industry (that did not mention Fast Five). If someone else has a reason why those are relevant (and can include that info in the article itself), please feel free to re-add and explain here. I don't know if someone is just randomly moving things around, or if someone's trying to give substance to this article where there is none, or what's happening. [[User:Qwyrxian|Qwyrxian]] ([[User talk:Qwyrxian|talk]]) 13:53, 21 July 2010 (UTC) |
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::: I have completed edits to add a reliable, published reference (Variety), and removed the redundant cast details (they are, and should remain, in the infobox). Please don't re-add them. I will request temporary semi-protection for the article, so that anonymous edits aren't allowed. (Unless someone explains here why that's a <b>bad idea.)</b>, If you want to discuss the article's proposed deletion, click [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Fast_Five_(film) HERE] to do so. [[User:Wikip rhyre|rhyre]] ([[User talk:Wikip rhyre|talk]]) 15:34, 21 July 2010 (UTC) |
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== Han Lue is dead == |
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IS there any official source that Sung Kang is coming back to play Han because IMDB is not a reliable source when it comes to whos playing who unless a reliable source is shown I'm rermoving him from the cast list [[User:Ghost07|Ghost07]] ([[User talk:Ghost07|talk]]) 18:10, 22 August 2010 (UTC) |
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:You can catch the brothers here. [http://screencrave.com/2010-07-14/cast-photos-vin-diesel-paul-walker-tyrese-gibson-ludacris-in-fast-five/] [[Special:Contributions/72.216.52.63|72.216.52.63]] ([[User talk:72.216.52.63|talk]]) 22:33, 4 September 2010 (UTC) |
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== Confusing statement == |
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"...the sixth and final installment of the series is also being developed, but both films will not be shot back-to-back."<br> |
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Does the first part refer to the sixth installment, which will be the last, or the sixth installment and the seventh/final installment? Does "both films" refer to ''Fast Five'' and the sixth installment? If so, then it probably shouldn't be noted if they weren't produced back-to-back. Also, the whole section is unsourced. --[[User:Boycool42|Boycool]] ([[User talk:Boycool42|talk]]) 19:45, 21 April 2011 (UTC) |
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:It was removed. It seems people still don't understand that the Wikipedia requires sources. —<span style="solid;background:#5D8AA8; border-radius: 8px; -moz-border-radius: 8px; font-family: Segoe Print">'''[[User:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Mike</font>]] [[User talk:MikeAllen|<font color="#3FFF00">Allen</font>]]'''</span> 02:37, 22 April 2011 (UTC) |
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::Actually there are sources now that Fast 5 is a success. Sources seem to indicate they waited to see how the movie would do before continuing with another to the series. Fast "6" is slated to be the next installment and Fast "7" will most likely be a spin-off with Dwayne Johnson. Also there is no confirmation on any final installment as of yet. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/72.253.252.132|72.253.252.132]] ([[User talk:72.253.252.132|talk]]) 11:46, 29 April 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== [[Ford GT40]] == |
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Is the [[Ford GT40]] shown in the [[Fast Five (film)|Fast Five film]] a road car or a replica? [[User:WiiKiBoyz|WKB]]<small>([[User talk:WiiKiBoyz|talk here]]/[[WP:SAND|This is not Facebook nor Malaysia]])</small> 09:48, 30 April 2011 (UTC) |
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== Leticia "Letty" Ortiz is not Dom's Ex-Girlfriend. == |
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Cast Section notes Letty as Dom's ex-girlfriend during description of her being indcated as still alive and returning for Fast Six. This is false/ incorrect because death does not denounce your releationship with a person. After death, married couples or long time partners generally do not |
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describe the deceased as their ex-wife, ex husband or partner. Letty and Dom were a long time couple when at the time of her death. Noting Letty as Dom's ex-girlfriend indicates that the two broke up before she died, which never took place in any of the films. Revision should be made on the false notion in cast section. |
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Letty is Dom's daredevil girlfriend/ partner in crime. Together they form a "Bonnie and Clyde" relationship, which might not seem like it, but is actaully filled with an immense amount of love for one another. Throughout The Fast and Furious and Fast and Furious she continues to prove just how fearless and in love with Dom she is, even though it ends up costing her her life. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/184.242.107.91|184.242.107.91]] ([[User talk:184.242.107.91|talk]]) 17:47, 30 April 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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: Depends on how you want to view Dom's relationship with Elena Neves <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/173.165.30.89|173.165.30.89]] ([[User talk:173.165.30.89|talk]]) 16:18, 6 May 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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Dom's new relationship with Elena is only a result of him believing Letty to be deceased. With out Letty's death, what would be his reason for finding companionship in Elena? The scene where Dom breaks and enters Elena's apartment to retrieve Letty's necklace (which Elena found at the run and chase to pursue Dom, Brian and Mia)shows that Dom is still very much passionatly in love with his long time girlfriend. There is alot of longing on his part. Fast 6 will most certainly depict that sense of longing and risk taking between Letty and Dom, the entire reason she has been recasted. <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/68.246.136.73|68.246.136.73]] ([[User talk:68.246.136.73|talk]]) 23:34, 8 May 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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== Letty Ortiz "Plot Summary" Corrected == |
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Leticia "Letty" Ortiz was incorrectly linked to the page of a princess of another country. I correctly linked to the "character's page" in the Fast and the Furious series. |
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[[Special:Contributions/68.60.60.117|68.60.60.117]] ([[User talk:68.60.60.117|talk]]) 20:19, 30 April 2011 (UTC) |
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::Thanks for the contribution. In the future, when editing, there is a little box above the "Save" button where you can say what you have done so you don't need to post it on the Talk page. [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 20:33, 30 April 2011 (UTC) |
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== The Cast section == |
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I'm just wondering why the Cast section is tagged as needing additional references. It doesn't have any references at all, and cast sections usually don't because the film references itself on that (just like plot information). Exactly what needs to be sourced in this section? [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 14:38, 4 May 2011 (UTC) |
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::While I don't know why it was put there, if you want an article to be rated as a good article or better, it should have sources that backup that these are the cast, even if it is obvious.[[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 14:41, 4 May 2011 (UTC) |
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:::Hey, Darkwarriorblake. You've done good work on this article. But, actually, the cast section for film articles here at Wikipedia are usually never sourced, and they still make it to [[WP:Good articles|GA (Good Article)]] status. And in the past, they would make it to [[WP:Featured articles|FA (Featured Article)]] status that way. They are often sourced early on, before the film is released, yes, but usually not after the film has been released (because who is in the film is out there by then). [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 14:51, 4 May 2011 (UTC) |
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::::Maybe it was here before the film came out, I only started providing input after its release. I'm basing my information mostly on articles like [[The Incredible Hulk (film)]] where the film has been released but the sources are used to describe the development of the characters. It doesn't HAVE to go there mind you, but there will need to be a casting section made that details how people were brought onto the film, etc. But it is possible that tag has been there a while which is why it did require sources.[[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 15:04, 4 May 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::It's possible the tag was added because it used to look like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fast_Five_(film)&diff=424874316&oldid=424862161 which has lots of character details but no sources for them. [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 15:06, 4 May 2011 (UTC) |
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::::::Here you go, it was added here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fast_Five_(film)&diff=425742035&oldid=425741314 so you could ask BoyCool why he added it [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 15:09, 4 May 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::::I was thinking it was added early on too, as that made the most sense to me. I definitely understand about the type of casting information you speak of needing to be sourced. Of course Casting sections (information about why people were cast, etc.) are usually sourced. I was only speaking of simple Cast sections (consisting of only a list of the actors/characters). I think I understand why BoyCool added the tag. It doesn't seem needed anymore, though. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 15:46, 4 May 2011 (UTC) |
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::::::::Hi. I added the tag when there were excessive plot details for each character (something that's caused edit wars for me in the past), but it's been trimmed down since then. The only thing I would suggest getting a source for now, other than casting info, etc., would be for Letty and Monica in the post-credits scene, which ''wasn't'' credited in the movie. I really wouldn't oppose removing the tag now. --[[User:Boycool42|Boycool]] ([[User talk:Boycool42|talk]]) 21:28, 4 May 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::::::Thanks for clearing up why you added the tag, Boycool. Your reasons for having done so are definitely understandable. I'll go ahead and remove the tag. [[User:Flyer22|Flyer22]] ([[User talk:Flyer22|talk]]) 22:29, 4 May 2011 (UTC) |
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== Cast references == |
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Does anyone have any good reliable sources for casting in this film? |
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I can't find anything for Vin Diesel, Walker or Brewster, can find some for Johnson which I've added and can find only twitter announcements for Gibson and Ludacris plus a general announcement for Almeida and Pataky. Any further information would be useful for this section. [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 17:24, 9 May 2011 (UTC) |
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== Requested move == |
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:''The following discussion is an archived discussion of a [[WP:RM|requested move]]. <span style="color:red">'''Please do not modify it.'''</span> Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. '' |
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The result of the move request was: '''Move'''. [[User:Jafeluv|Jafeluv]] ([[User talk:Jafeluv|talk]]) 09:39, 23 May 2011 (UTC) |
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[[Fast Five (film)]] → {{no redirect|1=Fast Five}} – Main topics. Other DISGUAM in [[Fast Five]] are not significant. Place a redirect to [[Fast Five (consulting)]] on top of moved page. <font face="Segoe UI">[[User:Silvergoat|Silvergoat]] ([[User talk:Silvergoat|talk]]∙[[Special:Contributions/Silvergoat|contrib]])</font> 15:48, 16 May 2011 (UTC) |
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:I'm happy to just move it, I hadn't realised that those were the other ''Fast Five'' topics. [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 15:51, 16 May 2011 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' as the primary topic. The soundtrack and score articles are extensions of the film, so the only true contender for primary use of the term "Fast Five" is [[Fast Five (consulting)]], which has very low article traffic. [[User:Erik|Erik]] ([[User talk:Erik|talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Erik|contribs]]) 16:52, 16 May 2011 (UTC) |
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*'''Support''' as, for the foreseeable future, the film article will be the only thing people will want to find when entering "Fast Five". --[[User:Boycool42|Boycool]] ([[User talk:Boycool42|talk]]) 22:45, 16 May 2011 (UTC) |
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::How do you move a page when a page already exists? [[Fast Five (disambiguation)]] already exists as a redirect to Fast Five, I need Fast Five to go to Fast Five (disambiguation) to move Fast Five (film) there. [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 00:33, 18 May 2011 (UTC) |
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:::Move "Fast Five" to "Fast Five (disambiguation)", and then move "Fast Five (film)" to "Fast Five". <font face="Segoe UI">[[User:Silvergoat|Silvergoat]] ([[User talk:Silvergoat|talk]]∙[[Special:Contributions/Silvergoat|contrib]])</font> 06:34, 18 May 2011 (UTC) |
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::::Well thats the problem, there's already a Fast Five and a Fast Five (disambiguation) to which Fast Five redirects. So the only way I can see of solving it is to copy the contents of Fast Five to Fast Five disambiguation but then that means copying the contents of here to Fast Five and that seems like a messy process that could break some links.[[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 11:40, 18 May 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::Nevermind I looked it up, you need administrator help[[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 11:48, 18 May 2011 (UTC) |
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== Character Names == |
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There's a debate regarding certain character names in the movie. First, there was Han. For a certain amount of time we believed his full name to be Han Lue, even though his last name was never mentioned at any point in prior films. Then, in ''Fast Five'', when Hobbs brings up the facial ID, it lists Toretto's actual name whilst at the same time listing Han's last name as Seoul-Oh. That last name may come off as an obvious joke, but since there's no proof within the movies that his last name is Lue, then it has to be assumed that his last name is Seoul-Oh. Likewise, we've been under the impression that Gisele's last name was Harabo, but her last name was never mentioned in any capacity in the prior film, which is her only prior appearance. And then in Hobbs' database in the movie, her last name is listed as Yashar. [[User:Jaybling|Jaybling]] ([[User talk:Jaybling|talk]]) 15:21, 17 May 2011 (UTC) |
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::I haven't watched any of these films since 2 and then this one so I don't know. I know Gisele Harabo turns up a lot of results and Hobbs says that they can "change their names but not their faces" so maybe Yashar is an alias. If I had the films credits it'd be a lot easier to sort it out once and for all as IMDB is not reliable as a source. Is there no official source? I tried the Fast Five website but that didn't help. I also tried the actress who played Gisele#s site as that seemed the best place but it doesn't list her character, just says she's in Fast Five.[[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 15:50, 17 May 2011 (UTC) |
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:::You said that Google results for Harabo were prominent, but that fact still remains that the last name Harabo isn't mentioned within the movie. As far as that comment by Hobbs goes, I took that as that they can change their names on their passports, but their faces match their original names in Hobbs' database. Additionally, Gisele is revealed to be a former Mossad agent. I don't know where the last name Harabo would come from, but Yashar is definitely Israeli. [[User:Jaybling|Jaybling]] ([[User talk:Jaybling|talk]]) 22:12, 17 May 2011 (UTC) |
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::::I dunno, everyone seems to credit her as Harabo from whatever the last film was she appeared in. Like I said, it needs an official source, preferably the credits even from a leaked version if possible but I don't think those versions carry the credits.[[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 22:14, 17 May 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::You can also just try searching for "Gal Gadot as Gisele" and all the results come back "Gisele Harabo". [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 22:19, 17 May 2011 (UTC) |
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::::::Like I sort of said before, just because it comes up on Google doesn't make it so. That doesn't come off as conclusive evidence. A screenshot is perhaps needed. [[User:Jaybling|Jaybling]] ([[User talk:Jaybling|talk]]) 23:55, 17 May 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::::I'm not saying it makes it so, I'm saying it makes it a lot more likely than her name being Yashar because it sounds Israeli.[[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 00:26, 18 May 2011 (UTC) |
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::::::::Okay, then like I said, we need a screenshot. [[User:Jaybling|Jaybling]] ([[User talk:Jaybling|talk]]) 01:13, 18 May 2011 (UTC) |
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::::::::I've just seen the movie again. It definitely said Yashar. So take that as you will. [[User:Jaybling|Jaybling]] ([[User talk:Jaybling|talk]]) 03:06, 23 May 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::::::In the credits or on the computer screen? Credits is what we need.[[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 17:56, 23 May 2011 (UTC) |
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::::::::::Ah. I didn't stick for those credits so I can't say, but it said so on the computer screen. I can say however that I just rewatched the fourth installment and the credits just say Gisele. If credits are the only thing that can prove her last name at the moment, then that would mean her last name should just be eliminated right now, since a Google search cannot be considered valid conclusive evidence. [[User:Jaybling|Jaybling]] ([[User talk:Jaybling|talk]]) 23:04, 24 May 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::It's not the search that matters, its the results. Like this one http://www.mtv.com/photos/fast-five/1654283/5533311/photo.jhtml [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 23:17, 24 May 2011 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::Where did they get the name from? IMDb? [[User:Jaybling|Jaybling]] ([[User talk:Jaybling|talk]]) 23:35, 24 May 2011 (UTC) |
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:::::::::::::I dunno, they have official pics that it says are sourced from Universal so I assume they know more than we do. I'm not opposed to removing reference to Harabo from the article until a solid source can be found but there is virtually nothing at all to warrant naming her Yashar apart from 2 frames in the film at the moment.[[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 23:38, 24 May 2011 (UTC) |
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::::::::::::::The pic may be sourced, but the names are not necessarily. So maybe we should just remove her last name. [[User:Jaybling|Jaybling]] ([[User talk:Jaybling|talk]]) 02:29, 26 May 2011 (UTC) |
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:Updating this conversation, Gisele is listed as Gisele Yashar in both Fast & Furious and in Fast Five. I don't know where Harabo came from but it isn't her name. Han is listed as Seoul-Oh in Fast Five, I can't find any reference to a surname elsewhere. So as far as I can now tell, their official names are Gisele Yashar and Han Seoul-Oh.[[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 23:29, 19 August 2011 (UTC) |
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::For future reference so I can direct people here, anyone wishing to change Han Seoul-Oh to Han Lue or Gisele Yashar to Gisele Harabo, please see this image I've put together for you. Will replace with a HD version if I can get my hands on the 720p copy. [http://i51.tinypic.com/2ephfed.jpg image]. [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 15:26, 10 October 2011 (UTC) |
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== Apparent excessive detail == |
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There is currently a dispute regarding what happened with the rest of the members of the heist. I believe it's not excessive. It wraps up their plotlines, but DarkWarriorBlake (who also believes he owns the page) thinks it's unimportant. It is. And if that's not important, then the part with Brian and Mia in the South Pacific is not either. And, Blake, what third party? ''[[User: Rusted AutoParts|<font face="Rockwell" size="3" style="color:#000000;color:red"><i>Rusted AutoParts</i></font>]]'' ([[User talk:Rusted AutoParts|talk]]) 13:46 24 May 2011 (UTC) |
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:We went over this. I don't own the page, I've never made any claim on the page. The part with Mia, Brian and Dom (The Main characters) which is also the final scene of the film, is important to mention. I do not know why you can't see the distinction between the main characters and the end of their plot and the supporting characters. Where the supporting characters go and what they do is not important. Their plotlines are wrapped up well enough by saying they went off and did their own thing. As for 3rd party, the user Mike Allen who has some experience in these matters and also cited [[WP:FILMPLOT|plot summaries]]. I don't claim the plot is perfect, I don't revert every change, I only claim your addition is extraneous fluff concerning background characters and is not important to the reader for them to understand. If you want that kind of detail I don't see why you can't go add it to the List of Fast and Furious characters as that is where any expansion of individual plots would be best placed.[[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 16:53, 24 May 2011 (UTC) |
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== Apparent excessive detail II == |
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WTF is notable about Ducati anyway? She already knew how to ride a bike, someone explained the two buttons that are different on Ducatis, why should this be part of an article? --[[Special:Contributions/79.223.10.95|79.223.10.95]] ([[User talk:79.223.10.95|talk]]) 21:16, 21 August 2011 (UTC) |
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:The information exists, so we must include it. --[[User:Boycool42|Boycool]] ([[User talk:Boycool42|talk]]) 22:46, 21 August 2011 (UTC) |
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::It's apparently a Ducati Street Fighter or Racer, though I don't know enough about them to say if its particularly powerful. The quote is this: |
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:::"''As part of her preparation for her role in Fast & Furious, Gadot had to master driving a Porsche Cayman. But for this project, she was asked to don a motorcycle helmet and learn to ride a Ducati. Familiar and comfortable riding motorbikes, she was excited to try her hand at the luxury model. She explains: “I’ve ridden a bike before, but not this kind of bike. The Ducati was big and heavy, but it was beautiful just the same."'' |
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::So she had to learn to ride a more powerful bike. [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 22:49, 21 August 2011 (UTC) |
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== Goa, India == |
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Can someone tell me where this is coming from in the Plot? No version of the film I have seen discloses any location at all for where the end of the film takes place. Even with full subs on there is no heading that says Goa, India. [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 20:36, 30 August 2011 (UTC) |
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:It's one of the non-extradition places Brian and Mia talk about going to. --[[User:Boycool42|Boycool]] ([[User talk:Boycool42|talk]]) 01:06, 17 October 2011 (UTC) |
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::Oh OK, but it would be Original Research to say that is where they actually went then right? At least I know where that is coming from now. [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 09:31, 17 October 2011 (UTC) |
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:::There's still no proof that Goa is where they actually went. --[[User:Boycool42|Boycool]] ([[User talk:Boycool42|talk]]) 11:50, 17 October 2011 (UTC) |
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== Arising during copy edit == |
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'''''Just the Ten of Us''''' was a [[situation comedy]] that aired on [[American Broadcasting Company|ABC]], most notably as part of that network's [[TGIF (ABC)|TGIF]] programming block. The series was a [[List of television spin-offs|spin-off]] of ''[[Growing Pains]]'', and was broadcast from [[1988]] until [[1990]]. |
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These arose during the early-October copy edit: |
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The series focuses on Graham Lubbock ([[Bill Kirchenbauer]]), a substitute teacher at the high school that ''[[Growing Pains]]'' characters Mike and Carol Seaver ([[Kirk Cameron]], [[Tracey Gold]]) had attended; and the father of eight children. |
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;Dates of filming |
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*The source used does say filming started in summer 2010, but this is a bit unfortunate as filming took place in both northern and southern hemispheres. If anyone has a source with a real date - even just a month - this would be better. |
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In the pilot episode (which aired on '''[[Growing Pains]]''' in the spring of 1988), Graham's contract is terminated, prompting Mike to lead a protest after he learns that he is trying to support a large family (including a baby that his wife, Elizabeth ([[Deborah Harmon]]), just had). Word spreads, and Graham is offered a job at St. Augustine's Academy, an all-boys private [[Catholic]] school in [[Eureka, California]]; Graham promptly moves his family to California. |
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*I removed a claim that Ludacris's Twitter dates the close of filming at November 9, 2010. He posted on 10th November but did not give an exact date. |
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::--[[User:Stfg|Stfg]] ([[User talk:Stfg|talk]]) 16:29, 2 October 2011 (UTC) |
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:I've struggled finding sources for filming dates but I will look around again. [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 16:34, 2 October 2011 (UTC) |
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:::OK have a few so far, one that says it is shooting in Puerto Rico between July-August [http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=66422 here]. [http://screenrant.com/fast-five-photo-cast-characters-story-robf-68528/ This], [http://uk.movies.ign.com/articles/110/1106077p1.html this], and [http://www.latinoreview.com/news/couple-of-cast-pics-from-fast-five-10490 this] are also is posted in July talking about shooting beginning so i think its fair to say at least that filming began in July at least. But this article says Diesel was still filming in November, so the August finish is murky. [http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1326972/Vin-Diesel-continues-film-Fast-Furious-Brazil.html here][[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 17:58, 2 October 2011 (UTC) |
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::::Thanks. I've put in something using these. --[[User:Stfg|Stfg]] ([[User talk:Stfg|talk]]) 17:24, 4 October 2011 (UTC) |
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;Marketing |
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Six of Graham's children were girls, four of them teen-agers (who were all very pretty); they included: |
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I've asked for clarification of "The game also featured missions and locations based on the plot of the film, while allowing players to interact and race against ''Fast Five'' characters." The question is whether the players interact with other players or with (simulations of) film characters. Or maybe this bit should be removed, since the two sources for this paragraph don't mention interaction (AFAICS). --[[User:Stfg|Stfg]] ([[User talk:Stfg|talk]]) 16:29, 2 October 2011 (UTC) |
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:I might have been using this "and earn opportunities to race against other characters from the films as well as participate in a bank heist." I'd class that as interacting but it doesn't specifically mention interacting in the sense that you can talk to them or anything so perhaps better to just say "race against" and remove the interact part. [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 16:34, 2 October 2011 (UTC) |
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::I agree, and have done that, also putting in the bit about participating in a bank heist. (It's interacting in a sense, but only with the game, and we do that with all such games, don't we?) --[[User:Stfg|Stfg]] ([[User talk:Stfg|talk]]) 16:57, 2 October 2011 (UTC) |
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;"Territories" |
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* Marie ([[Heather Langenkamp]]), the oldest and self-appointed leader. |
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I am temporarily suspending work on the "Box office" section, having become uncomfortable with the use of the word "territories" throughout this section. It has the potential for misunderstandings. The sub-section '''United States and Canada''' makes no reference to Canada, but opens with the words "In US territories", which certainly excludes Canada. |
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* Cindy ([[Jamie Luner]]), who had a wild personality. |
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* Wendy ([[Brooke Theiss]]), who was always trying to get a date. |
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* Connie ([[JoAnn Willette)]], the brains of the group. |
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I would suggest that we say "country" when we mean that, and reserve the word "territory" for when we mean some ''physical'' territorial unit that belongs to one country (like Tasmania, for example). I think (hope, really) that this might in effect remove the use of "territory" from this article. |
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His younger daughters were 8-year-old Sherry ([[Heidi Zeigler]]) and infant Melissa. By special arrangement, the older girls were allowed to attend St. Augustine's, much to the chagrin of the school's administration (and, of course, much delight of the male students). |
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By the way, the sub-heading "'''international'''" violates [[MOS:FILM#Box office]], and if it's OK I'd like to change it to whichever you prefer of "'''Outside the United States and Canada'''" or "'''Outside North America'''". --[[User:Stfg|Stfg]] ([[User talk:Stfg|talk]]) 18:30, 2 October 2011 (UTC) |
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Graham and Elizabeth's sons were 11-year-old Graham Jr. (J.R., played by [[Matt Shakman]]) and toddler Harvey. |
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:I'm fine with those changes. An alternative header could just be "Elsewhere" if that is acceptable. As for the America section, the figures are largely sourced from Box Office Mojo which reports their figures combined from the US and Canada, so th eopening of that section could be changed to just "In the United States and Canada". [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 18:38, 2 October 2011 (UTC) |
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::Thanks. "In the United States and Canada" is good. "Elsewhere" would require the section to be moved below the US and Canada, losing the chronology of national premieres. Let me know if you'd prefer this, otherwise I'll go for "Outside North America". I have to go into London tomorrow morning, so it will be 18 hours minimum before I'm back on this now. Cheers, --[[User:Stfg|Stfg]] ([[User talk:Stfg|talk]]) 19:59, 2 October 2011 (UTC) |
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Episodes revolved around the family's efforts to save money, dating and other typical family [[situation comedy|sitcom]] plots. In later episodes, the four teen-aged girls formed a singing group called "The Lubbock Babes" (partly to help bring in much-needed extra income). |
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No you're right, I had forgotten the chronology of events. The international market has to appear first in that section so better to go with your heading suggestions. [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 20:03, 2 October 2011 (UTC) |
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;Aspect ratio |
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The series was built around Graham's character, a bumbling substitute teacher, which had been a recurring character on ''[[Growing Pains]]''. His teaching skills had improved considerably for ''Just the Ten of Us'', however. |
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The Home media section mentions an aspect ration of 2:35:1. This is exactly what the source says, but I don't understand it. Is it a typo (for 2.35:1) in the source, or is there something that could be explained? --[[User:Stfg|Stfg]] ([[User talk:Stfg|talk]]) 12:39, 4 October 2011 (UTC) |
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:It appears to just be a typo from the source, any official site I can find on the subject switches back and forth between '2:35' and '2.35' though '2.35' seems to be the correct manner of writing the number. [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 12:44, 4 October 2011 (UTC) |
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::OK, I've assumed so and made that change. --[[User:Stfg|Stfg]] ([[User talk:Stfg|talk]]) 18:15, 4 October 2011 (UTC) |
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==Movie connections== |
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I find the use of these a big help, but half of the benefit - ease of finding them - is lost when they are grouped like this and random within the group. Much better would be to have a single alphabetized list. --[[User:Stfg|Stfg]] ([[User talk:Stfg|talk]]) 17:24, 4 October 2011 (UTC) |
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The series had close ties with the ''[[Nightmare on Elm Street]]'' [[horror film]] franchise. Three of the four teenaged daughters appeared in various ''Nightmare'' films: |
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:Fair enough, I will remember that in the future. Thanks for your copy-editing work Stfg, it is, as always, much appreciated. [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 17:45, 4 October 2011 (UTC) |
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::Thanks, Darkwarriorblake. It was a pleasure, as always. --[[User:Stfg|Stfg]] ([[User talk:Stfg|talk]]) 18:15, 4 October 2011 (UTC) |
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{{Talk:Fast Five/GA1}} |
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*[[Heather Langenkamp]] starred in the original [[Nightmare on Elm Street]] and ''[[A Nightmare on Elm Street 3: Dream Warriors]]'' as Nancy Thompson, [[Freddy Krueger]]'s nemesis; this character is killed off in ''Dream Warriors''. In addition, Langenkamp plays herself in ''[[Wes Craven's New Nightmare]]''. |
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*[[JoAnn Willette]] plays a student aboard a school bus in ''[[A Nightmare on Elm Street 2: Freddy's Revenge]]'' who is slaughtered by Freddy. |
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*[[Brooke Theiss]] has a supporting role in ''[[A Nightmare on Elm Street 4: The Dream Master]]'' as "Deb," who goes on to be the last of Freddy's victims in the film. |
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In addition, the character "J.R." is often seen sporting a ''Nightmare on Elm Street'' t-shirt. |
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Should we add in a paragraph about what the team does in preparation for the heist, as in how they find out about the vault, how they get access to the station's security camera feed, and practice driving through the mock parking garage, e.t.c, or would that make the plot section too long? |
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[[User:Jaydude1992|Jaydude1992]] ([[User talk:Jaydude1992|talk]]) 20:47, 5 November 2012 (UTC) |
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:It'd make it too long and it's not really important to understanding the film. [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 01:14, 6 November 2012 (UTC) |
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== Linking == |
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{{TGIF (ABC)}} |
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If you want me to stop, just leave it alone, quit making a big deal out of it. I,m making a big deal because you won't stop undoing my edit. Just leave it alone already right or wrong, move on already, that's only way I'm stoping. <small><span class="autosigned">— Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[User:Shookallen88|Shookallen88]] ([[User talk:Shookallen88|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Shookallen88|contribs]]) 04:13, 30 July 2013 (UTC)</span></small><!-- Template:Unsigned --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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::I had to leave it alone at Fast & Furious 6 because you wouldn't stop there, you still started up here, and that is the second time you've made that threat on as many articles, "do it my way because I won't stop". Feel free to attempt that because if you do it again I'm just gonna report you to the admin who blocked you because you clearly haven't learned a lesson and he will hopefully block you for a lot longer. You've had this explained to you across multiple articles, this has to be your 15th edit across these articles about the same thing, you have no intention of following discussion or guideline and I'm not wasting any more time on you. Stop edit warring, because you're gonna end up blocked permanently. [[User:Darkwarriorblake|Darkwarriorblake]] ([[User talk:Darkwarriorblake|talk]]) 08:12, 30 July 2013 (UTC) |
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Thinking getting me blocked longer is making it better, it's not. So if you want be blocked longer go ahead report me I really don't care. The more undo me reverts the more I,m not going to stop. I,m only going to say this one more time just leave it like I had it, grow up and move on from it. [[User: Shookallen88]] 12:07, 30 July 2013 (UTC) |
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THIS is the wikipage for the Film.
I placed the hangon tag, I don't believe the person who tagged it understands what is happening. Fast Five (disambig) has links to three topics, with Fast Five being a link to the disambiguation page. Fast Five should only have a LINK to the movie page, just as "Fab Four" doesn't jump you into the Beatles.rhyre (talk) 18:06, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
rhyre (talk) 17:45, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
Content suggestions
The vast majority of this article has absolutely nothing to do with an upcoming movie. Per WP:NOTNEWS, I don't think Wikipedia should have an article detailing the week by week events involved in filming. Even if this can survive Speedy Deletion, though, it certainly wouldn't survive a PROD, per the criteria regarding future films in WP:NFF. Thus, per WP:SNOW, we should go ahead and speedy delete anyway. Once this film has started principal photography and the production is notable itself, then an article can be created. Qwyrxian (talk) 02:40, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
Wikipedia is not the place for a week to week acount for the making of a film, although i do think the article should stay, be cut to a minium until the film is released and focus on the key point that the film is being made. Atkinsonhd (talk) 03:49, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
- Some seem to be calling for edits to the article to reduce the amount of content, others for deletion. I didn't create the original content of the page, merely cut/pasted it from the overly generic Fast Five page (which others keep trying to replace with the Film Content, despite it being a working title).
- My suggestions are
- Please review Amors Baller to see if that's a more suitable model for an upcoming film, and comment here.
Please review the page for Fast Five and comment here, suggesting whether or not THAT content should be moved here to create the smaller article. Be aware that anonymous fanboys of the movie series may revert your work for a time.- rhyre (talk) 16:56, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
- My suggestions are
Rhyre, you're correct that, if the movie deserves an article, it should be here under "Fast Five (film)," and "Fast Five" should be a disambiguation page. However, if the problem is that the disambiguation page is being vandalized, the solution is not to create an article that doesn't meet notability--it's to defend the disambiguation from vandalizing (possibly through some level of protection, depending on who's vandalizing). Qwyrxian (talk) 13:56, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
- I will request "semi-protection" for the Fast Five page as it exists now, to prevent anonymous edits. The initial problem that motivated this change was anonymous IP users inserting random movie factoids into a page called Fast Five. Fast Five originally linked to the section of the "Fast and the Furious article" which was where the upcoming movie existed. Principal photograpy has commenced as of July 2010, so the section really does qualify for an article (principal photography is one of the WP:NFF tests). (You can join the debate at the AfD discussion) rhyre (talk) 15:54, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
- Is Lucas Black even confirmed for the film? I haven't heard a thing about his involvement in the film, if i'm wrong I apologize. Unless we have concrete proof like a tweet from him or a set photo, I think we should keep him off of the page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Florez411 (talk • contribs) 03:30, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Significant removals
I just removed three long sections from the article. Please know that I'm not trying to influence the deletion discussion; even if the article is kept, I am certain those sections had absolutely nothing to do with the film or the production. The first section I deleted was about some sort of Green viral advertising campaign or contest; the second was about increasing green energy in Puerto Rico; and the third was about the goal of the government to improve the PR film industry (that did not mention Fast Five). If someone else has a reason why those are relevant (and can include that info in the article itself), please feel free to re-add and explain here. I don't know if someone is just randomly moving things around, or if someone's trying to give substance to this article where there is none, or what's happening. Qwyrxian (talk) 13:53, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
- I have completed edits to add a reliable, published reference (Variety), and removed the redundant cast details (they are, and should remain, in the infobox). Please don't re-add them. I will request temporary semi-protection for the article, so that anonymous edits aren't allowed. (Unless someone explains here why that's a bad idea.), If you want to discuss the article's proposed deletion, click HERE to do so. rhyre (talk) 15:34, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
Han Lue is dead
IS there any official source that Sung Kang is coming back to play Han because IMDB is not a reliable source when it comes to whos playing who unless a reliable source is shown I'm rermoving him from the cast list Ghost07 (talk) 18:10, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
- You can catch the brothers here. [1] 72.216.52.63 (talk) 22:33, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Confusing statement
"...the sixth and final installment of the series is also being developed, but both films will not be shot back-to-back."
Does the first part refer to the sixth installment, which will be the last, or the sixth installment and the seventh/final installment? Does "both films" refer to Fast Five and the sixth installment? If so, then it probably shouldn't be noted if they weren't produced back-to-back. Also, the whole section is unsourced. --Boycool (talk) 19:45, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
- It was removed. It seems people still don't understand that the Wikipedia requires sources. —Mike Allen 02:37, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
- Actually there are sources now that Fast 5 is a success. Sources seem to indicate they waited to see how the movie would do before continuing with another to the series. Fast "6" is slated to be the next installment and Fast "7" will most likely be a spin-off with Dwayne Johnson. Also there is no confirmation on any final installment as of yet. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.253.252.132 (talk) 11:46, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
Is the Ford GT40 shown in the Fast Five film a road car or a replica? WKB(talk here/This is not Facebook nor Malaysia) 09:48, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
Leticia "Letty" Ortiz is not Dom's Ex-Girlfriend.
Cast Section notes Letty as Dom's ex-girlfriend during description of her being indcated as still alive and returning for Fast Six. This is false/ incorrect because death does not denounce your releationship with a person. After death, married couples or long time partners generally do not describe the deceased as their ex-wife, ex husband or partner. Letty and Dom were a long time couple when at the time of her death. Noting Letty as Dom's ex-girlfriend indicates that the two broke up before she died, which never took place in any of the films. Revision should be made on the false notion in cast section.
http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0004176/bio----
Letty is Dom's daredevil girlfriend/ partner in crime. Together they form a "Bonnie and Clyde" relationship, which might not seem like it, but is actaully filled with an immense amount of love for one another. Throughout The Fast and Furious and Fast and Furious she continues to prove just how fearless and in love with Dom she is, even though it ends up costing her her life. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.242.107.91 (talk) 17:47, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
- Depends on how you want to view Dom's relationship with Elena Neves —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.165.30.89 (talk) 16:18, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
Dom's new relationship with Elena is only a result of him believing Letty to be deceased. With out Letty's death, what would be his reason for finding companionship in Elena? The scene where Dom breaks and enters Elena's apartment to retrieve Letty's necklace (which Elena found at the run and chase to pursue Dom, Brian and Mia)shows that Dom is still very much passionatly in love with his long time girlfriend. There is alot of longing on his part. Fast 6 will most certainly depict that sense of longing and risk taking between Letty and Dom, the entire reason she has been recasted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.246.136.73 (talk) 23:34, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
Letty Ortiz "Plot Summary" Corrected
Leticia "Letty" Ortiz was incorrectly linked to the page of a princess of another country. I correctly linked to the "character's page" in the Fast and the Furious series.
68.60.60.117 (talk) 20:19, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for the contribution. In the future, when editing, there is a little box above the "Save" button where you can say what you have done so you don't need to post it on the Talk page. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 20:33, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
The Cast section
I'm just wondering why the Cast section is tagged as needing additional references. It doesn't have any references at all, and cast sections usually don't because the film references itself on that (just like plot information). Exactly what needs to be sourced in this section? Flyer22 (talk) 14:38, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- While I don't know why it was put there, if you want an article to be rated as a good article or better, it should have sources that backup that these are the cast, even if it is obvious.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 14:41, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- Hey, Darkwarriorblake. You've done good work on this article. But, actually, the cast section for film articles here at Wikipedia are usually never sourced, and they still make it to GA (Good Article) status. And in the past, they would make it to FA (Featured Article) status that way. They are often sourced early on, before the film is released, yes, but usually not after the film has been released (because who is in the film is out there by then). Flyer22 (talk) 14:51, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- Maybe it was here before the film came out, I only started providing input after its release. I'm basing my information mostly on articles like The Incredible Hulk (film) where the film has been released but the sources are used to describe the development of the characters. It doesn't HAVE to go there mind you, but there will need to be a casting section made that details how people were brought onto the film, etc. But it is possible that tag has been there a while which is why it did require sources.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 15:04, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- It's possible the tag was added because it used to look like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fast_Five_(film)&diff=424874316&oldid=424862161 which has lots of character details but no sources for them. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 15:06, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- Here you go, it was added here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fast_Five_(film)&diff=425742035&oldid=425741314 so you could ask BoyCool why he added it Darkwarriorblake (talk) 15:09, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- I was thinking it was added early on too, as that made the most sense to me. I definitely understand about the type of casting information you speak of needing to be sourced. Of course Casting sections (information about why people were cast, etc.) are usually sourced. I was only speaking of simple Cast sections (consisting of only a list of the actors/characters). I think I understand why BoyCool added the tag. It doesn't seem needed anymore, though. Flyer22 (talk) 15:46, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- Hi. I added the tag when there were excessive plot details for each character (something that's caused edit wars for me in the past), but it's been trimmed down since then. The only thing I would suggest getting a source for now, other than casting info, etc., would be for Letty and Monica in the post-credits scene, which wasn't credited in the movie. I really wouldn't oppose removing the tag now. --Boycool (talk) 21:28, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks for clearing up why you added the tag, Boycool. Your reasons for having done so are definitely understandable. I'll go ahead and remove the tag. Flyer22 (talk) 22:29, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- Hi. I added the tag when there were excessive plot details for each character (something that's caused edit wars for me in the past), but it's been trimmed down since then. The only thing I would suggest getting a source for now, other than casting info, etc., would be for Letty and Monica in the post-credits scene, which wasn't credited in the movie. I really wouldn't oppose removing the tag now. --Boycool (talk) 21:28, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- I was thinking it was added early on too, as that made the most sense to me. I definitely understand about the type of casting information you speak of needing to be sourced. Of course Casting sections (information about why people were cast, etc.) are usually sourced. I was only speaking of simple Cast sections (consisting of only a list of the actors/characters). I think I understand why BoyCool added the tag. It doesn't seem needed anymore, though. Flyer22 (talk) 15:46, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- Here you go, it was added here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fast_Five_(film)&diff=425742035&oldid=425741314 so you could ask BoyCool why he added it Darkwarriorblake (talk) 15:09, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- It's possible the tag was added because it used to look like this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Fast_Five_(film)&diff=424874316&oldid=424862161 which has lots of character details but no sources for them. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 15:06, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- Maybe it was here before the film came out, I only started providing input after its release. I'm basing my information mostly on articles like The Incredible Hulk (film) where the film has been released but the sources are used to describe the development of the characters. It doesn't HAVE to go there mind you, but there will need to be a casting section made that details how people were brought onto the film, etc. But it is possible that tag has been there a while which is why it did require sources.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 15:04, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- Hey, Darkwarriorblake. You've done good work on this article. But, actually, the cast section for film articles here at Wikipedia are usually never sourced, and they still make it to GA (Good Article) status. And in the past, they would make it to FA (Featured Article) status that way. They are often sourced early on, before the film is released, yes, but usually not after the film has been released (because who is in the film is out there by then). Flyer22 (talk) 14:51, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
- While I don't know why it was put there, if you want an article to be rated as a good article or better, it should have sources that backup that these are the cast, even if it is obvious.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 14:41, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
Cast references
Does anyone have any good reliable sources for casting in this film?
I can't find anything for Vin Diesel, Walker or Brewster, can find some for Johnson which I've added and can find only twitter announcements for Gibson and Ludacris plus a general announcement for Almeida and Pataky. Any further information would be useful for this section. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 17:24, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
Requested move
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The result of the move request was: Move. Jafeluv (talk) 09:39, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
Fast Five (film) → Fast Five – Main topics. Other DISGUAM in Fast Five are not significant. Place a redirect to Fast Five (consulting) on top of moved page. Silvergoat (talk∙contrib) 15:48, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
- I'm happy to just move it, I hadn't realised that those were the other Fast Five topics. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 15:51, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
- Support as the primary topic. The soundtrack and score articles are extensions of the film, so the only true contender for primary use of the term "Fast Five" is Fast Five (consulting), which has very low article traffic. Erik (talk | contribs) 16:52, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
- Support as, for the foreseeable future, the film article will be the only thing people will want to find when entering "Fast Five". --Boycool (talk) 22:45, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
- How do you move a page when a page already exists? Fast Five (disambiguation) already exists as a redirect to Fast Five, I need Fast Five to go to Fast Five (disambiguation) to move Fast Five (film) there. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 00:33, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- Move "Fast Five" to "Fast Five (disambiguation)", and then move "Fast Five (film)" to "Fast Five". Silvergoat (talk∙contrib) 06:34, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- Well thats the problem, there's already a Fast Five and a Fast Five (disambiguation) to which Fast Five redirects. So the only way I can see of solving it is to copy the contents of Fast Five to Fast Five disambiguation but then that means copying the contents of here to Fast Five and that seems like a messy process that could break some links.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 11:40, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- Nevermind I looked it up, you need administrator helpDarkwarriorblake (talk) 11:48, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- Well thats the problem, there's already a Fast Five and a Fast Five (disambiguation) to which Fast Five redirects. So the only way I can see of solving it is to copy the contents of Fast Five to Fast Five disambiguation but then that means copying the contents of here to Fast Five and that seems like a messy process that could break some links.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 11:40, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- Move "Fast Five" to "Fast Five (disambiguation)", and then move "Fast Five (film)" to "Fast Five". Silvergoat (talk∙contrib) 06:34, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- How do you move a page when a page already exists? Fast Five (disambiguation) already exists as a redirect to Fast Five, I need Fast Five to go to Fast Five (disambiguation) to move Fast Five (film) there. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 00:33, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
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Character Names
There's a debate regarding certain character names in the movie. First, there was Han. For a certain amount of time we believed his full name to be Han Lue, even though his last name was never mentioned at any point in prior films. Then, in Fast Five, when Hobbs brings up the facial ID, it lists Toretto's actual name whilst at the same time listing Han's last name as Seoul-Oh. That last name may come off as an obvious joke, but since there's no proof within the movies that his last name is Lue, then it has to be assumed that his last name is Seoul-Oh. Likewise, we've been under the impression that Gisele's last name was Harabo, but her last name was never mentioned in any capacity in the prior film, which is her only prior appearance. And then in Hobbs' database in the movie, her last name is listed as Yashar. Jaybling (talk) 15:21, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- I haven't watched any of these films since 2 and then this one so I don't know. I know Gisele Harabo turns up a lot of results and Hobbs says that they can "change their names but not their faces" so maybe Yashar is an alias. If I had the films credits it'd be a lot easier to sort it out once and for all as IMDB is not reliable as a source. Is there no official source? I tried the Fast Five website but that didn't help. I also tried the actress who played Gisele#s site as that seemed the best place but it doesn't list her character, just says she's in Fast Five.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 15:50, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- You said that Google results for Harabo were prominent, but that fact still remains that the last name Harabo isn't mentioned within the movie. As far as that comment by Hobbs goes, I took that as that they can change their names on their passports, but their faces match their original names in Hobbs' database. Additionally, Gisele is revealed to be a former Mossad agent. I don't know where the last name Harabo would come from, but Yashar is definitely Israeli. Jaybling (talk) 22:12, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- I dunno, everyone seems to credit her as Harabo from whatever the last film was she appeared in. Like I said, it needs an official source, preferably the credits even from a leaked version if possible but I don't think those versions carry the credits.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 22:14, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- You can also just try searching for "Gal Gadot as Gisele" and all the results come back "Gisele Harabo". Darkwarriorblake (talk) 22:19, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- Like I sort of said before, just because it comes up on Google doesn't make it so. That doesn't come off as conclusive evidence. A screenshot is perhaps needed. Jaybling (talk) 23:55, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not saying it makes it so, I'm saying it makes it a lot more likely than her name being Yashar because it sounds Israeli.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 00:26, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- Okay, then like I said, we need a screenshot. Jaybling (talk) 01:13, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- I've just seen the movie again. It definitely said Yashar. So take that as you will. Jaybling (talk) 03:06, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
- In the credits or on the computer screen? Credits is what we need.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 17:56, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
- Ah. I didn't stick for those credits so I can't say, but it said so on the computer screen. I can say however that I just rewatched the fourth installment and the credits just say Gisele. If credits are the only thing that can prove her last name at the moment, then that would mean her last name should just be eliminated right now, since a Google search cannot be considered valid conclusive evidence. Jaybling (talk) 23:04, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
- It's not the search that matters, its the results. Like this one http://www.mtv.com/photos/fast-five/1654283/5533311/photo.jhtml Darkwarriorblake (talk) 23:17, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
- Where did they get the name from? IMDb? Jaybling (talk) 23:35, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
- I dunno, they have official pics that it says are sourced from Universal so I assume they know more than we do. I'm not opposed to removing reference to Harabo from the article until a solid source can be found but there is virtually nothing at all to warrant naming her Yashar apart from 2 frames in the film at the moment.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 23:38, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
- The pic may be sourced, but the names are not necessarily. So maybe we should just remove her last name. Jaybling (talk) 02:29, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
- I dunno, they have official pics that it says are sourced from Universal so I assume they know more than we do. I'm not opposed to removing reference to Harabo from the article until a solid source can be found but there is virtually nothing at all to warrant naming her Yashar apart from 2 frames in the film at the moment.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 23:38, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
- Where did they get the name from? IMDb? Jaybling (talk) 23:35, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
- It's not the search that matters, its the results. Like this one http://www.mtv.com/photos/fast-five/1654283/5533311/photo.jhtml Darkwarriorblake (talk) 23:17, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
- Ah. I didn't stick for those credits so I can't say, but it said so on the computer screen. I can say however that I just rewatched the fourth installment and the credits just say Gisele. If credits are the only thing that can prove her last name at the moment, then that would mean her last name should just be eliminated right now, since a Google search cannot be considered valid conclusive evidence. Jaybling (talk) 23:04, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
- In the credits or on the computer screen? Credits is what we need.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 17:56, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
- I'm not saying it makes it so, I'm saying it makes it a lot more likely than her name being Yashar because it sounds Israeli.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 00:26, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
- Like I sort of said before, just because it comes up on Google doesn't make it so. That doesn't come off as conclusive evidence. A screenshot is perhaps needed. Jaybling (talk) 23:55, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- You can also just try searching for "Gal Gadot as Gisele" and all the results come back "Gisele Harabo". Darkwarriorblake (talk) 22:19, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- I dunno, everyone seems to credit her as Harabo from whatever the last film was she appeared in. Like I said, it needs an official source, preferably the credits even from a leaked version if possible but I don't think those versions carry the credits.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 22:14, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- You said that Google results for Harabo were prominent, but that fact still remains that the last name Harabo isn't mentioned within the movie. As far as that comment by Hobbs goes, I took that as that they can change their names on their passports, but their faces match their original names in Hobbs' database. Additionally, Gisele is revealed to be a former Mossad agent. I don't know where the last name Harabo would come from, but Yashar is definitely Israeli. Jaybling (talk) 22:12, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- I haven't watched any of these films since 2 and then this one so I don't know. I know Gisele Harabo turns up a lot of results and Hobbs says that they can "change their names but not their faces" so maybe Yashar is an alias. If I had the films credits it'd be a lot easier to sort it out once and for all as IMDB is not reliable as a source. Is there no official source? I tried the Fast Five website but that didn't help. I also tried the actress who played Gisele#s site as that seemed the best place but it doesn't list her character, just says she's in Fast Five.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 15:50, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
- Updating this conversation, Gisele is listed as Gisele Yashar in both Fast & Furious and in Fast Five. I don't know where Harabo came from but it isn't her name. Han is listed as Seoul-Oh in Fast Five, I can't find any reference to a surname elsewhere. So as far as I can now tell, their official names are Gisele Yashar and Han Seoul-Oh.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 23:29, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
- For future reference so I can direct people here, anyone wishing to change Han Seoul-Oh to Han Lue or Gisele Yashar to Gisele Harabo, please see this image I've put together for you. Will replace with a HD version if I can get my hands on the 720p copy. image. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 15:26, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
Apparent excessive detail
There is currently a dispute regarding what happened with the rest of the members of the heist. I believe it's not excessive. It wraps up their plotlines, but DarkWarriorBlake (who also believes he owns the page) thinks it's unimportant. It is. And if that's not important, then the part with Brian and Mia in the South Pacific is not either. And, Blake, what third party? Rusted AutoParts (talk) 13:46 24 May 2011 (UTC)
- We went over this. I don't own the page, I've never made any claim on the page. The part with Mia, Brian and Dom (The Main characters) which is also the final scene of the film, is important to mention. I do not know why you can't see the distinction between the main characters and the end of their plot and the supporting characters. Where the supporting characters go and what they do is not important. Their plotlines are wrapped up well enough by saying they went off and did their own thing. As for 3rd party, the user Mike Allen who has some experience in these matters and also cited plot summaries. I don't claim the plot is perfect, I don't revert every change, I only claim your addition is extraneous fluff concerning background characters and is not important to the reader for them to understand. If you want that kind of detail I don't see why you can't go add it to the List of Fast and Furious characters as that is where any expansion of individual plots would be best placed.Darkwarriorblake (talk) 16:53, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
Apparent excessive detail II
WTF is notable about Ducati anyway? She already knew how to ride a bike, someone explained the two buttons that are different on Ducatis, why should this be part of an article? --79.223.10.95 (talk) 21:16, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
- The information exists, so we must include it. --Boycool (talk) 22:46, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
- It's apparently a Ducati Street Fighter or Racer, though I don't know enough about them to say if its particularly powerful. The quote is this:
- "As part of her preparation for her role in Fast & Furious, Gadot had to master driving a Porsche Cayman. But for this project, she was asked to don a motorcycle helmet and learn to ride a Ducati. Familiar and comfortable riding motorbikes, she was excited to try her hand at the luxury model. She explains: “I’ve ridden a bike before, but not this kind of bike. The Ducati was big and heavy, but it was beautiful just the same."
- So she had to learn to ride a more powerful bike. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 22:49, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
- It's apparently a Ducati Street Fighter or Racer, though I don't know enough about them to say if its particularly powerful. The quote is this:
Goa, India
Can someone tell me where this is coming from in the Plot? No version of the film I have seen discloses any location at all for where the end of the film takes place. Even with full subs on there is no heading that says Goa, India. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 20:36, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
- It's one of the non-extradition places Brian and Mia talk about going to. --Boycool (talk) 01:06, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
- Oh OK, but it would be Original Research to say that is where they actually went then right? At least I know where that is coming from now. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 09:31, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
- There's still no proof that Goa is where they actually went. --Boycool (talk) 11:50, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
- Oh OK, but it would be Original Research to say that is where they actually went then right? At least I know where that is coming from now. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 09:31, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Arising during copy edit
These arose during the early-October copy edit:
- Dates of filming
- The source used does say filming started in summer 2010, but this is a bit unfortunate as filming took place in both northern and southern hemispheres. If anyone has a source with a real date - even just a month - this would be better.
- I removed a claim that Ludacris's Twitter dates the close of filming at November 9, 2010. He posted on 10th November but did not give an exact date.
- I've struggled finding sources for filming dates but I will look around again. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 16:34, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
- OK have a few so far, one that says it is shooting in Puerto Rico between July-August here. This, this, and this are also is posted in July talking about shooting beginning so i think its fair to say at least that filming began in July at least. But this article says Diesel was still filming in November, so the August finish is murky. hereDarkwarriorblake (talk) 17:58, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. I've put in something using these. --Stfg (talk) 17:24, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
- OK have a few so far, one that says it is shooting in Puerto Rico between July-August here. This, this, and this are also is posted in July talking about shooting beginning so i think its fair to say at least that filming began in July at least. But this article says Diesel was still filming in November, so the August finish is murky. hereDarkwarriorblake (talk) 17:58, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
- Marketing
I've asked for clarification of "The game also featured missions and locations based on the plot of the film, while allowing players to interact and race against Fast Five characters." The question is whether the players interact with other players or with (simulations of) film characters. Or maybe this bit should be removed, since the two sources for this paragraph don't mention interaction (AFAICS). --Stfg (talk) 16:29, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
- I might have been using this "and earn opportunities to race against other characters from the films as well as participate in a bank heist." I'd class that as interacting but it doesn't specifically mention interacting in the sense that you can talk to them or anything so perhaps better to just say "race against" and remove the interact part. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 16:34, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
- I agree, and have done that, also putting in the bit about participating in a bank heist. (It's interacting in a sense, but only with the game, and we do that with all such games, don't we?) --Stfg (talk) 16:57, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
- "Territories"
I am temporarily suspending work on the "Box office" section, having become uncomfortable with the use of the word "territories" throughout this section. It has the potential for misunderstandings. The sub-section United States and Canada makes no reference to Canada, but opens with the words "In US territories", which certainly excludes Canada.
I would suggest that we say "country" when we mean that, and reserve the word "territory" for when we mean some physical territorial unit that belongs to one country (like Tasmania, for example). I think (hope, really) that this might in effect remove the use of "territory" from this article.
By the way, the sub-heading "international" violates MOS:FILM#Box office, and if it's OK I'd like to change it to whichever you prefer of "Outside the United States and Canada" or "Outside North America". --Stfg (talk) 18:30, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
- I'm fine with those changes. An alternative header could just be "Elsewhere" if that is acceptable. As for the America section, the figures are largely sourced from Box Office Mojo which reports their figures combined from the US and Canada, so th eopening of that section could be changed to just "In the United States and Canada". Darkwarriorblake (talk) 18:38, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks. "In the United States and Canada" is good. "Elsewhere" would require the section to be moved below the US and Canada, losing the chronology of national premieres. Let me know if you'd prefer this, otherwise I'll go for "Outside North America". I have to go into London tomorrow morning, so it will be 18 hours minimum before I'm back on this now. Cheers, --Stfg (talk) 19:59, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
No you're right, I had forgotten the chronology of events. The international market has to appear first in that section so better to go with your heading suggestions. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 20:03, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
- Aspect ratio
The Home media section mentions an aspect ration of 2:35:1. This is exactly what the source says, but I don't understand it. Is it a typo (for 2.35:1) in the source, or is there something that could be explained? --Stfg (talk) 12:39, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
- It appears to just be a typo from the source, any official site I can find on the subject switches back and forth between '2:35' and '2.35' though '2.35' seems to be the correct manner of writing the number. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 12:44, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
- OK, I've assumed so and made that change. --Stfg (talk) 18:15, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
- List-defined references
I find the use of these a big help, but half of the benefit - ease of finding them - is lost when they are grouped like this and random within the group. Much better would be to have a single alphabetized list. --Stfg (talk) 17:24, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
- Fair enough, I will remember that in the future. Thanks for your copy-editing work Stfg, it is, as always, much appreciated. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 17:45, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
- Thanks, Darkwarriorblake. It was a pleasure, as always. --Stfg (talk) 18:15, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
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Reviewer: Miyagawa (talk · contribs) 12:27, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Claiming this one for myself - will begin my review this evening. Miyagawa (talk) 12:27, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
Couldn't see any problems with the lead, and only needed to do a very minor fix on the plot.
- Cast: Would be preferable if citations could be added to the descriptions of Mia Toretto, Han Seoul-Oh, and to the final paragraph at the end.
- Marketing: "first ever use of this marketing approach" - probably better to add a direct cite now rather than wait for a reader to add a citeneeded tag.
- Markets outside the United States and Canada: "opened at number one in a further 44 countries" is that on top of the 58 countries mentioned in the previous sentence or is the 44 a separate count?
- References: You need to check the capitalization of the sources - for instance you've capitalized Amazon.com but not Yahoo. Also Variety.com has a capital in one reference, but not another - same with Deadline.com.
- References: A few references are missing details, either the website location or the newspaper. The ones I've spotted are 6, 7, 9, 31, 32, 34, 36, 38, 39, 48, 51, 53, 58, 66, 77, 78, 97, 99- because at the moment a bunch of them look like they've come from Amazon.com
- References: #11 needs format=PDF added.
- References: #21 and #57 use a different date format to the others and needs to be corrected.
I'll come back and finish up the review once that's been looked at. Miyagawa (talk) 19:34, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
- Modifications complete. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 22:03, 13 October 2011 (UTC)
- Realised I hadn't checked the images, so went through and checked them. So I think we're all there now. Good job! Miyagawa (talk) 08:34, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
- Thank you very much Miyagawa, nice reward for some hard work. Thanks for taking the time to do this. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 20:59, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
Plan details
Should we add in a paragraph about what the team does in preparation for the heist, as in how they find out about the vault, how they get access to the station's security camera feed, and practice driving through the mock parking garage, e.t.c, or would that make the plot section too long? Jaydude1992 (talk) 20:47, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
- It'd make it too long and it's not really important to understanding the film. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 01:14, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
Linking
If you want me to stop, just leave it alone, quit making a big deal out of it. I,m making a big deal because you won't stop undoing my edit. Just leave it alone already right or wrong, move on already, that's only way I'm stoping. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shookallen88 (talk • contribs) 04:13, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
- I had to leave it alone at Fast & Furious 6 because you wouldn't stop there, you still started up here, and that is the second time you've made that threat on as many articles, "do it my way because I won't stop". Feel free to attempt that because if you do it again I'm just gonna report you to the admin who blocked you because you clearly haven't learned a lesson and he will hopefully block you for a lot longer. You've had this explained to you across multiple articles, this has to be your 15th edit across these articles about the same thing, you have no intention of following discussion or guideline and I'm not wasting any more time on you. Stop edit warring, because you're gonna end up blocked permanently. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 08:12, 30 July 2013 (UTC)
Thinking getting me blocked longer is making it better, it's not. So if you want be blocked longer go ahead report me I really don't care. The more undo me reverts the more I,m not going to stop. I,m only going to say this one more time just leave it like I had it, grow up and move on from it. User: Shookallen88 12:07, 30 July 2013 (UTC)