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:::::I love ALT2!!! [[User:Hawkeye7|Hawkeye7]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye7|talk]]) 20:08, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
:::::I love ALT2!!! [[User:Hawkeye7|Hawkeye7]] ([[User talk:Hawkeye7|talk]]) 20:08, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
::::::<bows, acknowledges applause and cheers> I would like to thank the DYK Academy, my agent, and all the DYK "little people" who have made this hook possible. I couldn't have done it without the great raw material. I am unworthy. [[User:EEng|EEng]] ([[User talk:EEng|talk]]) 21:19, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
::::::<bows, acknowledges applause and cheers> I would like to thank the DYK Academy, my agent, and all the DYK "little people" who have made this hook possible. I couldn't have done it without the great raw material. I am unworthy. [[User:EEng|EEng]] ([[User talk:EEng|talk]]) 21:19, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
:::::::I like the new hook and ALT2 equally. Need a new review to move forward at this time. [[User:Northamerica1000|NorthAmerica]]<sup>[[User_talk:Northamerica1000|1000]]</sup> 22:16, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
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Steak burger

A steak burger with cheese and onion rings

  • ... that the first commercial steak burger offered to consumers in the U.S. appears to have been invented in 1934 by A.H. "Gus" Belt, the founder of Steak 'n Shake?

Created by Northamerica1000 (talk). Self nominated at 14:21, 9 October 2014 (UTC).

  • New enough, long enough, QPQ done. Image correctly licensed (as are all the others), looks good at this resolution, and is used in the article. Article is neutral, well sourced, and there are no indications of copyvio or close paraphrasing. Hook is cited in article. Good to go. G S Palmer (talkcontribs) 17:30, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
  • This was pulled from queue by The Rambling Man based on the discussion initiated by EEng at WT:DYK, who summarizes the hook as "an extraordinary claim sourced to a dubious source". Under the circumstances, this either needs a better source or a new hook; the discussion also noted this document (FN12 in the article), which apparently dates "steakburger" back to the 1920s. BlueMoonset (talk) 20:17, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
Thanks for the input. I didn't initially see the 1920s reference in the court case source above. I have copy edited the History section of the article per this information. NorthAmerica1000 20:36, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
Below is a new hook. NorthAmerica1000 20:50, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
New hook: ... that in July 2004, the term "steakburger" became the subject of litigation, whereby Steak 'n Shake sought a preliminary injunction against Burger King to cease using the term?
Don't be mad at me, but the court's opinion is a primary source which the article can't use except in very narrow circumstances -- probably OK for the judge's review of routine historical background, but absolutely not for the status of the litigation, meaning of the opinion, etc., because there are too many technical things that can happen between a given ruling and its effect IRL. But fear not! There are good secondary sources [1] [2]. And search [3] for steakburger burger. Let me suggest
ALT2 ... that while testifying in a 2004 lawsuit involving the meaning of the word steakburger, a corporate CEO was grilled on the witness stand?
EEng (talk) 16:56, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
I have added another (secondary) source to the article to better-verify content of the new hook. NorthAmerica1000 18:40, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
Aren't you going to say anything about the fabulous hook? 10,000 clicks, guaranteed. EEng (talk) 19:58, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
I love ALT2!!! Hawkeye7 (talk) 20:08, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
<bows, acknowledges applause and cheers> I would like to thank the DYK Academy, my agent, and all the DYK "little people" who have made this hook possible. I couldn't have done it without the great raw material. I am unworthy. EEng (talk) 21:19, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
I like the new hook and ALT2 equally. Need a new review to move forward at this time. NorthAmerica1000 22:16, 15 October 2014 (UTC)