User talk:Jehochman

Nomination of Search engine optimization methods for deletion

A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Search engine optimization methods is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Search engine optimization methods (2nd nomination) until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article. Tomwsulcer (talk) 21:39, 15 July 2015 (UTC)

Sunday August 2: WikNYC Picnic

Sunday August 2, 1-7pm: WikNYC Picnic

You are invited to join us the "picnic anyone can edit" in Brooklyn's Prospect Park, as part of the Great American Wiknic celebrations being held across the USA. Remember it's a wiki-picnic, which means potluck. Sunday August 2 WikNYC Picnic (RSVP) (also on meetup.com) 1pm–7pm - come by any time! @ Bartel-Pritchard Square entrance (Prospect Park West and 15th St), immediately on the lawn to your left as you walk through the lovely lotus columns. Subway: ​ to 15th Street – Prospect Park (IND Culver Line) We hope to see you there! --Pharos (talk) 03:31, 24 July 2015 (UTC) (Bonus event: WikiWednesday Salon @ Babycastles - Wednedsay, August 19)

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SRI International

I thought you might have an interest in this. The page was brought to my attention by an employee from one of their competitors, who was wondering why their article doesn't look like that. CorporateM (Talk) 02:31, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

August 19: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

Wednesday August 19, 7pm: WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC

You are invited to join the Wikimedia NYC community for our evening "WikiWednesday" salon and knowledge-sharing workshop by 14th Street / Union Square in Manhattan. We also hope for the participation of our friends from the Free Culture movement and from educational and cultural institutions interested in developing free knowledge projects. We will also follow up on plans for recent and upcoming editathons, and other outreach activities. After the main meeting, pizza and refreshments and video games in the gallery! Wednesday August 19 WikiWednesday Salon and Skill-Share NYC (RSVP on-wiki or at meetup.com). 7:00pm - 9:00 pm at Babycastles, 137 West 14th Street Featuring a keynote talk this month to be determined! We especially encourage folks to add your 5-minute lightning talks to our roster, and otherwise join in the "open space" experience! Newcomers are very welcome! Bring your friends and colleagues! --Pharos (talk) 15:58, 11 August 2015 (UTC)

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Request advice

Hi, Jehochman. I sincerely regret that I must bother you with this, since calm months have gone by since you graciously offered on 15:28, 8 December 2014] that "should there be further needling" between editor Winkelvi and to "come to my talk page and I will deal with it directly."

I had not been bothered by Winkelvi since you posted that, shortly after he had promised at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/IncidentArchive865 on 03:57, 8 December 2014 that he " can avoid interacting with Tenebrae without a formal/official interaction ban." Yet on on Sunday, from out of the blue, he came to a 3RR report I had filed. against an unrelated anon IP, specifically to attack me [1] by groundlessly and aggressively "propos[ing] a boomerang" against me. His claims were so baseless and needling that, finally, another editor called him on it [2]. He then went to the article's talk page, where he again insisted on poking at me — despite having had no previous interest in the article until seeing that I was there.

I did try to defuse the situation, which escalated at the article talk page. I offered that despite his not keeping his vow to stay away from me that I wouldn't bring him up to AN/I or IBAN if he would simply agree again not to interact with me (in second paragraph at [3]). He responded with a veiled threat that "it [would] not end well for [me]". [4].

And it isn't just me: This year so far, at least two other editors have also accused him of "hounding" them — their word (Joseph Prasad at [5] and Coretheapple at 21:44, 22 January 2015 on this page, where I can't seem to find a diff URL). Another talked about his "battleground mentality" [6]. Even admin Bbb23, who doesn't particularly care for me, said this year (in something I was not involved with) that Winkelvi's "reaction to this report [against him] evinces at best a lack of maturity, defensively attacking the filer when Winkelvi is in the wrong." [7].

You were kind enough to offer help in this situation, so I'd like to ask your advice on what I should do. I am perplexed, for reasons I gave on my last post on the article talk page: "I don't know what need you have to keep coming after me and interacting with me. But it's apparently a need: There are millions of Wikipedia articles and thousands of editors. You don't have to interact with me. Yet you choose to. Why? Why? Why?" --Tenebrae (talk) 23:48, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

@Winkelvi:, please comment on the above. Do you agree to stop interacting with editors who find your presence nettlesome? This is a big place; there's no need to associate with those who don't want to. Jehochman ^Talk 23:58, 18 August 2015 (UTC)

I already stopped interacting with him, even though he insists on continuing to interact and initiate contact with me. Take a look at the 3RR filing he was recently involved in at which I commented. He wouldn't stop initiating contact with me - even though he insisted I do so with him. Same at the Gigi Hadid talk page. He says he doesn't want anything more to do with me, yet he keeps talking to me and making accusations and bringing up garbage from over a year ago as well as poking and goading me into a fight. Even at that article's talk page, it wasn't required of him to respond the first time he did. He could have left it alone, but didn't. I was only trying to help with a content dispute; he is the one who took it to an unnecessary level with more accusations and finger-pointing and rehashing of old arguments long since forgotten by me. I finally decided that it was a "I hate you, please don't leave" kind of situation and made the choice to just stop answering his questions and responding to his accusations. -- WV ● ✉ ✓ 00:05, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Fine. I won't argue. If Winkelvi stays away from me, that's all I ask. But for the record, he said at 02:38, 18 August 2015 that he "would" keep interacting with me: "Sorry, but I'm not going to make promises ...[to not interact with you] to keep you from filing an AN/I." [8]. --Tenebrae (talk) 00:11, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

And also for the record, I find the armchair psychology accusing me of "I hate you, please don't leave" behavior offensive and a personal attack on my ethics and apparently mental health. It was uncalled-for aggression. --Tenebrae (talk) 00:14, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

There's no record here so don't worry about it. The both of you, to avoid irritating each other and more importantly yourselves, just steer clear when you see the other person. If Tenebrae is edit warring, surely somebody will notice and take action. There's no need for Winkelvi to comment on it. Likewise, Tenebrae, please try to conserve oprobrium. Feel free to return here if I can help in the future. Jehochman ^Talk 15:02, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

My sincere thanks. --Tenebrae (talk) 23:05, 19 August 2015 (UTC)

Winkelvi again ... I can't believe this

He has followed me yet again to a page he's never previously edited: Brian Austin Green: Here's the article's history page going back to 2010, long before Winkelvi joined Wikipedia.

You can see his edits on the history page. They happen to be contentious, unilateral changes (despite other current editors having been collegially discussing the issue on the article's talk page). Yet even if they were the most wonderful edits in the world, he agreed right here just days ago not to follow me around.

I won't even get into the other falsehoods of his most recent post above, but I think this puts a lie to his incredible claim that I want to interact with him. He came to that article where he'd never before been, and where I've been actively editing and actively discussing on the talk page. Please help me. I don't know what to do anymore and in an ANI he'll just lie like he did above about me following him, which as I'm sure isn't even a question anymore of being a blatant falsehood. --Tenebrae (talk) 21:50, 23 August 2015 (UTC)

@Winkelvi:, this is a final warning. Please don't follow Tenebrae to articles you have not edited previously. If you do the block will be 6 days, double the last one that wasn't reversed. Jehochman ^Talk 15:46, 24 August 2015 (UTC)