User talk:EdJohnston

MTA Fleet Page

• 3RR closure about MTA Regional Bus Operations bus fleet

I understand that in recent times that there have been as series of edit wars stone of which i can say i was a part of, however, is the best fix to that problem preventing everybody from editing the page for two weeks? With this happening, information could become inaccurate and testers could be mislead. Maybe a more effective way of tracking the Edit war problem with be to enforce the 3rr rule.I also can agree to stop edit warring with others while i am on the topic. Olsen24 (talk) 23:21, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

If a real discussion develops at Talk:MTA Regional Bus Operations bus fleet, where you participate and pay attention to the other's arguments and try to reach a compromise I would be ready to lift the protection. It is annoying to see repeated 3RR complaints where neither party is willing to use the talk page. Thank you, EdJohnston (talk) 15:32, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Persistent vandalism by single-purpose account with abominable username

• Austrians (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi, Ed. Thanks for all the work you do. Surely this user should be blocked for the username alone, not to mention persistent vandalism of the Austrians article. Carlstak (talk) 01:02, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

The editor is now blocked for username. Thanks for your report. EdJohnston (talk) 01:31, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

he appears to have friends, socks, or associates: Kaye01chan and an IP. Anmccaff (talk) 01:36, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Again, thanks. Is this tag-team approach by trolls becoming more common these days? They pretty much pulled the "Duck Season"" routine. Anmccaff (talk) 02:03, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

The best plan may be WP:RBI. EdJohnston (talk) 02:05, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Hmm, so I should cook or plant these beans, rather than continue putting them up my nose? Anmccaff (talk) 02:13, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Rapid Transit

I rest my case, not willing to cite properly, is willing to cut and paste a paraphrased comment on talk page. Can I revert? Is it vandalism? Is the edit summary POINTY enough combined with the contributions? Koncorde (talk) 15:54, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Try opening a WP:Request for comment on the talk page. Since RfCs are advertised, that may help bring in people who are new to the discussion. It will also force each side to clearly state what version they favor and to give their reasoning. In answer to your question: the user's changes are NOT vandalism. You can't revert (with impunity) unless you are sure your change falls under WP:3RRNO, which it probably does not. But in the mean time, I've semiprotected Rapid transit because edit warring with a fluctuating IP violates WP:SOCK. The IP can still make their arguments on the talk page. EdJohnston (talk) 16:27, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Really Ed? There is no RFC to be had, there is no contribution being made? They have suggested no version, nor contributed any discussion at the talk page. They have cut and paste my comments from the talk page into the article uncited or referenced and removed content separate to the comments they introduced to exploit the "3RR" rule. My comments that are a response directly to the users statement not a contribution to the article. Edit summary and subsequent comment talk page indicate blatant intent. Koncorde (talk) 17:22, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Reporting a changing IP

Hi,

Where do I report an IP user that keeps changing his IP addresses? At Lithuania's page there is an IP user that is edit warring and his IPs are almost the same with the exception of last number (94.119.64.5, 94.119.64.1, 94.119.64.10, 94.119.64.18, 94.119.64.6). I thought about taking this matter to either WP:AN3 or WP:LTA, but I am not sure anymore. 4 out of 5 IP have been blocked for such behavior in the past and 1 IP has been blocked as a sockpuppet. In addition, all IPs keep ignoring warning messages at their talk pages. What can you advise? – Sabbatino (talk) 07:03, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

Blocks mention Mikemikev. The problematic range is at 94.119.64.0/27. This has been going on for awhile, so perhaps a longer block is needed. Nihlus 07:42, 3 October 2017 (UTC) (talk page stalker)

If the evidence is good I'd be prepared to do a rangeblock. Recently there was an edit summary by User:Doug Weller where he stated that the 94.119.64.3 was a sock of the banned editor Mikemikev. A rangeblock of 94.119.64.0/27 (block range · block log (global) · WHOIS (partial)) could be considered. I haven't checked yet for collateral damage, but it's a small range. When time permits somebody could review WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Mikemikev/Archive. EdJohnston (talk) 13:28, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

If there isn't too much collateral damage, go for it. Mikemikev alone is still a problem, and that would block one range he uses. Doug Weller talk 17:52, 3 October 2017 (UTC)

This edit from August shows the IP updating a comment by User:David Mendlesohn, an identified sock of Mikemikev. Still considering a one-month block of the /27. There have been no edits that are distinctive of Mikemikev since October 1 in that range. Still hesitating due to collateral since Mikemikev appears to change IPs frequently. These IPs are hosted by The Cloud Networks, which appears to run WiFi hotspots in addition to whatever else they do. Will go ahead with semiprotection for Lithuania, in response to User:Sabbatino's concern. EdJohnston (talk) 13:03, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Question

Hi EdJohnston. A question: Are the Albania-related articles property of Greek editors? Yes or no? This is not about criticizing any admin in particular, but none of them so far has found it a little strange that the (Personal attack removed)/wp:outing are always present and active inside Albanian topics, and if ever have the patience to read articles such as Saranda or Korce you can see what their contribute aims for. No wonder users like Resnjari end up in edit wars, its's three of them against one. Always in unison. We don't like something ? - Then it's disruptive.
Just an illustration from Dr's talkpage:

Thank you for reverting recent disruption in Delvina etc.. It's sad that a specific editor struggles to convince our community that good articles should satisfy vandals & all this kind of disruptive SPAs.Alexikoua (talk) 10:34, 30 September 2017 (UTC) You are very welcome Alexi. It was the least I could do. These Illyria vandals are hard-wired to erase any mention of Ancient Greece and replace it with Illyria and/or Albania. Heck, they even made Korkyra Illyrian in a vandalism that remained since last January until I caught it earlier today. Thank you also for your great work in that toxic area, dealing with all types of disruption. Dr. K. 16:54, 30 September 2017 (UTC)

And before starting with the endless set of WPs, (Personal attack removed)?
Best regards--Mondiad (talk) 02:05, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Hi Ed. I think this account should be blocked for PAs and attempts at outing. Thanks and sorry for the intrusion. Dr. K. 02:27, 7 October 2017 (UTC)

Assistances requested

Sorry to be so much trouble, I usually work with researching historical people and events, not dealing with contentious current politics, and as an elderly person (my computer teaching in college had learned programing on punch cards), I do not go great job in this new web-world, but I do love the history and am thrilled finding new records to fill in the stories. Thus over the years I have worked mostly on minor pieces from The Longoria Affair to Lewis Charlton (slave).

I came across Patriot Prayer page quite by accident and made one small changed based local reporting, I added 'Pro-Trump' group. This was quickly deleted, and I thought mistakenly so I reinstalled it. It was deleted again, then I added a few local sources and was told it was 'sloppy and lazy journalism' before it was deleted again. So I lined up over twenty different local sources all saying the same thing, but by now I was reported for 3RRN violations by Darkness Shines. The rest, I am afraid, is what you have been dealing with since with more reporting of me for 3RRN (now on 7th or 8th) and once for singularly focused. I have learned about bringing any change to the Talk page and abide by the majority, but it seems like anything suggested by me to dismissed out of hand without referencing any sources for the editing. This is my latest attempt: [1]

Is there perhaps anyone that might be able to work as an intermediary between us. I have the local solid sourcing of information but no way to get it onto the page without conflict with Darkness. My last change of organising rallies into region areas was suggested by Darkness, but as I did it, it too turned into an edit war. Is there someone that Darkness respects that I might work with to improve the page, without getting into an edit war? Thank you for your consideration of this matter.C. W. Gilmore (talk) 07:35, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

IP 125.107.182.107

Hi EdJohnston. I believe that IP 125.107.182.107 is the same person you blocked per WP:AN3#User:125.107.175.62 reported by User:Marchjuly (Result: Blocked). Since this person does not seem to understand the message you left at User talk:125.107.175.62#Edit warring, removal of references and copyright problems on Olympics articles, it seem probable that they will simply keep using a new IP each time one is blocked. I'm not sure how this kind of IP hopper is typically dealt with, but maybe WP:SEMI for the article would prevent them from continuing to inappropriately add those non-free files. -- Marchjuly (talk) 07:38, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Thank you for looking into this. -- Marchjuly (talk) 21:30, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

1939 Coventry bombing

Hi Ed. You (semi-) protected this article just now, but actually the issue has been resolved now. The IP has not been back since 08:40 yesterday (UTC), and there's no reason to expect him back either. Protection isn't needed any more. Regards, Scolaire (talk) 21:24, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

I have my eye on a different IP who has recently edited there. It does not seem too drastic to semiprotect a WP:TROUBLES article for a period of two months. when there have been recent problems from IPs. (These are IPs for which we might be discussing topic bans if they were registered editors doing the same thing). EdJohnston (talk) 04:21, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Fair enough. Scolaire (talk) 08:19, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Third party opinion

• Wagner Group (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)
• Edit warring complaint about that article

EdJohnston, I know you to be a fair and neutral administrator/editor. So could you please look (and let me know your opinion) at what editor Axxxion (who I reported for the 3RR violation) has been saying at the talk page here [2]. The problem is, despite a large volume of sources confirming the existence of the Wagner Group, he thinks they do not exist based on opinions expressed in a few obscure outlets (which I already said should be included) and is dismissing any and all of the other more reliable sources (such as the WSJ, The Telegraph, etc) as not credible. In his personal POV the Wall Street Journal is an anti-Russian American media outlet that should not be considered as a source. I pointed out several times the WSJ is considered a reliable source by Wikipedia but have been ignored. He has also engaged into his personal unsourced POV speculation on the subject of the article which is within the realm of WP:SYNTHESIS, but he doesn't seem to care and has removed the text being cited by the WSJ. He also calls any sources confirming the existence of the subject of the article anecdotal evidence, again his own opinion, and he has translated this into the text in the article. He has also called at least one of the sources (a non-governmental Russian investigative researcher) a, quote, kgb stooge who is just pretending to be an anti-government military analyst so to distract. He also considers official Ukrainian intelligence (SBU) reports on Wagner to be the product of Russian infiltrators within the SBU. I mean, I don't think any reasonable responses can be given to this. Basically, in his opinion, any sources confirming the existence of Wagner are ether not reliable because they are anti-Russian or they are infiltrated by the KGB to create the myth of Wagner for the sake of distraction. He also avoids to give a straight concrete answer for his massive reverts of most of my other edits, no matter how many times I ask. What is to be done in this case when the editor is making edits in an unsourced OR and POV manner and engaging in edit warring for the sake of it in violation of WP policy? EkoGraf (talk) 09:27, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Both you and User:Axxxion appear to have some knowledge, but for an administrator to sort out interpersonal disputes takes a lot of time. (Neither of you is a vandal; one of you could possibly be pushing a POV but it takes time to judge that). It is easier for us if you will do a good review of the content issues on the talk page, and open an WP:RFC if necessary. It is simple enough for admins to block someone who is reverting against a clear talk page consensus, but regular editors have to create the consensus (or at least attempt to get one). Thanks for your note. EdJohnston (talk) 23:30, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your

intervention. Just by way of comment: I do not think there is an active dispute between us (EkoGraf and me) in Wagner article. But I also would like to draw your attention to this one Russian military intervention in the Syrian Civil War. There have been persistent unsourced edits by anonymous editors in that article. I believe it needs semiprotection. (Frankly, no time for formal request). Thanks a lot.Axxxion (talk) 16:34, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

It was time to renew the semiprotection at Russian military intervention in the Syrian Civil War. Thanks for your note, EdJohnston (talk) 22:55, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Biswajeet34

• Biswajeet34 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

I notice that you handled the edit warring report regarding this user. Can you please take a look at their recent edits? I have no idea what they're trying to do, with the template and forky-article creation. A block may be in order. – Train2104 (t • c) 17:06, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

I notice they recreated Template:Culture of Ho tribe, a badly malformed page, after it had already been speedy deleted as a G2. I left a note at their talk page. You may be thinking there is a case for a WP:CIR block. Nobody minds a new person who can write adequately, starts slowly and asks for advice, but here we have the opposite. Doug Weller also commented below. EdJohnston (talk) 23:23, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

I've either speedied or AFD'ed the rest of their creations. Mage Porob is borderline nonsense to me, Jomnama Parob is just a list of references, Festival of Ho tribe is a fork, Diyeng is possibly made up. – Train2104 (t • c) 01:12, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Mage Parob was a copyright violation. I expect to find more when I have tome. Doug Weller talk 07:24, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for your suggestion . I am going with Wikipedia editing policies.so, i know very well about wikipedia editng policies ,better you should research properly with these articles. I have many resources with proper historic evidences,accurate reliable sources and anthropology scholars as well with scholar of law and governances. If You have some douts then you can ask me any question regarding any articles , i can give you proper history about that article with reliable wikipedia sources which is the actual motto of Wikipedia

A concern

• Nicoddemu (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)

User:Nicoddemu has been busy adding unsourced information, using unreliable sources, and intentionally misrepresenting sources. I posted a concern on their talk page, which, judging by their recent activities, was ignored.[3]

Source Misrepresentation:

• [4],[5],[6]. Source makes no mention of a previous marriage or divorce.
• [7],[8],[9]. Source makes no mention of Furneaux or Odo/Eudes.

Addition of incorrect/unsourced information:

• [10], easily disproven and "Emma" is already mentioned later in article as illegitimate.
• [11]
• [12]
• [13]
• [14], example of an entire article based on no sources. Note the poor English
• [15]

Usage of unreliable source(s):

• [16], Medlands unreliable source.
• [17], genea.net unreliable source.

Illegible sentences, quite possibly non-English user.

• [18]
• [19]
• [20]

In some cases, the articles in question are unreliably sourced or completely unsourced and user:Nicoddemu is simply adding more unsourced, unverified information to said articles.

I have posted 2 concerns to their talk page, with no response to either. Judging from the page moves done by Nicoddemu, this is not a "new user" and should not be treated as one. I do not expect any action to be taken at this time, but I seriously doubt this editor will stop their form of "editing" any time soon. --Kansas Bear (talk) 20:02, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Left a note for Nicoddemu about the possible unsourced information. EdJohnston (talk) 01:45, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

Ho people

• Ho people (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I’m not sure protecting it will help. Reinstating mayterial with year old fact tags, adding more unsourced, and possibly s competence issue doesn’t make me think there will be a useful discussion or that things will be different in five days. I’ll put it on my watch list. I’d probably have reverted the current version if I’d seen it. Doug Weller talk 20:31, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

One party could be heading for a block, but if the more experienced person is not using the talk page I don't see the closer as having much discretion. It would be helpful for someone to list the good and bad sources on the talk page -- blocking for repeated addition of unsourced material is certainly a thing. If you know anything at all about this topic your input on Talk would be useful. I'll suggest to the other party that they make an edit request. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 20:52, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

List of programmes broadcast by Sky One

Sorry about that, seems we had a move conflict, I hope this is a coincidence and not bad luck – it happened on my last page move too, albeit the other way round –72 _(talk) 22:42, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

I wanted to do this quickly before the channel changed its name again!

You know, there is a thing in computer science about deadlocks.. If we could just get people to close moves with the same order of steps .. Or a button at RMTR that does the move and removes the list entry in one atomic operation :-) EdJohnston (talk) 22:48, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Well, they've had a quick update on Wikipedia, not sure it'll be as simple on twitter for instance. An automatic process would definitely be helpful, yes (though an atomic operation would be interesting too!), I guess a script would take someone more clever than I to devise. I had also noticed that the RMTR regulars tend to move multiple pages consecutively before removing the requests too, assumedly opening all requests in new tabs before taking action. –72 _(talk) 23:11, 10 October 2017 (UTC)