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::Which editors? [[User:Royal Autumn Crest|Royal Autumn Crest]] ([[User talk:Royal Autumn Crest|talk]]) 17:31, 1 September 2020 (UTC) |
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:::{{u|Royal Autumn Crest}}, I think it was lastly discussed [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:War_of_1812/Archive_23#Canadian_English here]. [[User:Davide King|Davide King]] ([[User talk:Davide King|talk]]) 15:07, 2 September 2020 (UTC) |
:::{{u|Royal Autumn Crest}}, I think it was lastly discussed [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:War_of_1812/Archive_23#Canadian_English here]. [[User:Davide King|Davide King]] ([[User talk:Davide King|talk]]) 15:07, 2 September 2020 (UTC) |
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== Military historian view - how come all the citations (Hickey [cited twice??], Howe, Hiedler, Gregory) are American? == |
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Historians' views |
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Militarily, historians hold the view that the war ended in a draw[320][321][322][323] or stalemate,[324][325][326] with the Treaty of Ghent |
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- All of these citations are from American authors and completely ignore naval war. American authors view the war ended in a draw (as shown by these citations). Canadian and British historians it was an American defeat. suggest it be reworded that American historians hold the view and we then add the Canadian/British historians as discussed earlier in the archive. |
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my request that the United Kingdoms not the ending of the United Kingdom of Britain and ireland Bai society (talk) 23:27, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
Not done. It's not clear what changes you want to make. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 02:19, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
Why is this written in Canadian English?
It was both a multi-national war, why is Canadian grammar being used? Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 01:51, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
- Because that is the version that the editors chose, which they are allowed to do. TFD (talk) 02:01, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
- Which editors? Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 17:31, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
- Royal Autumn Crest, I think it was lastly discussed here. Davide King (talk) 15:07, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
- Which editors? Royal Autumn Crest (talk) 17:31, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
Military historian view - how come all the citations (Hickey [cited twice??], Howe, Hiedler, Gregory) are American?
Historians' views Militarily, historians hold the view that the war ended in a draw[320][321][322][323] or stalemate,[324][325][326] with the Treaty of Ghent
- All of these citations are from American authors and completely ignore naval war. American authors view the war ended in a draw (as shown by these citations). Canadian and British historians it was an American defeat. suggest it be reworded that American historians hold the view and we then add the Canadian/British historians as discussed earlier in the archive.
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