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Are the people listed in the [[Tammany Hall#Leaders]] section supposed to be the Grand Sachems or some other leadership position within Tammany Hall? If the list is supposed to be that of the Grand Sachems, the 19th century portion doesn't match the list given in Euphemia Vale Blake's ''[http://www.archive.org/stream/historyoftammany00blak/historyoftammany00blak_djvu.txt History of the Tammany society from its organization to the present time]''. It looks like an anonymous editor [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tammany_Hall&oldid=1716909 added the contents of the list back in 2003]. [[User:DanielPenfield|DanielPenfield]] ([[User talk:DanielPenfield|talk]]) 17:29, 9 February 2011 (UTC) |
Are the people listed in the [[Tammany Hall#Leaders]] section supposed to be the Grand Sachems or some other leadership position within Tammany Hall? If the list is supposed to be that of the Grand Sachems, the 19th century portion doesn't match the list given in Euphemia Vale Blake's ''[http://www.archive.org/stream/historyoftammany00blak/historyoftammany00blak_djvu.txt History of the Tammany society from its organization to the present time]''. It looks like an anonymous editor [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tammany_Hall&oldid=1716909 added the contents of the list back in 2003]. [[User:DanielPenfield|DanielPenfield]] ([[User talk:DanielPenfield|talk]]) 17:29, 9 February 2011 (UTC) |
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:I've editd the article substantially, but I've never touched the list, simply assuming it was correct. I took a quick look at your source - can you tell me if there's an equvalent list there, or will someone have to read through the book and construct a new one? [[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]]) 19:12, 9 February 2011 (UTC) |
:I've editd the article substantially, but I've never touched the list, simply assuming it was correct. I took a quick look at your source - can you tell me if there's an equvalent list there, or will someone have to read through the book and construct a new one? [[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]]) 19:12, 9 February 2011 (UTC) |
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::Search for "GRAND SACHEMS" (it's in "CHAPTER LXII") or check WorldCat ({{OCLC|1294977}}, {{OCLC|10849194}}) to see if it's available at your local library. |
::Search for "GRAND SACHEMS" (it's in "CHAPTER LXII") or check WorldCat ({{OCLC|1294977}}, {{OCLC|10849194}}) to see if it's available at your local library. -- [[User:DanielPenfield|DanielPenfield]] ([[User talk:DanielPenfield|talk]]) 20:02, 9 February 2011 (UTC) |
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:::I've looked at the list, and it seems to me that the scanning process has severely corrupted it, enough so that I do not think it can be said to be a reliable source for this information. [[User:Beyond My Ken|Beyond My Ken]] ([[User talk:Beyond My Ken|talk]]) 03:09, 14 February 2011 (UTC) |
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Mergers
I merged the two, but there wasn't a whole lot in Tammany Society to merge anyway. --TheGrza 20:30, Nov 4, 2004 (UTC)
Restored edits
I restored the edits made by User:68.161.26.201. A post on the help desk (from a different New York IP) identified that user as a professor of urban studies at NYU. Although I know little of the subject matter, I looked at the changes and thought they looked like improvments, so I restored them. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 19:18, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
Everything tammany should have disambiguation, including Louisiana, as well as etymology, history.
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There isn't enough here
What happened after 1950? I know that it still exists in one form or another.
Status of secret society
Tammany Hall is sometimes called the Tammany Society. Wasn't it some kind of secret society that combined various Roman Catholic elements ? If so, wouldn't it be accurate to say that Tammany Hall was a potential rival and even an opponent to Freemasonry ? ADM (talk) 10:19, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
- No, that would not be acccurate. Tammany was founded as a political society (supporting the Jeffersonian Democrats), not as a secret society. Like many other fraternal organizations, they borrowed the organizational structure of Freemasonry in creating their society. In fact, several of Tammany's founders were Freemasons, who created Tammany because Freemasonry in NY insisted on staying politically neutral.
- Tammany was never specifically Roman Catholic... However, starting in the 1840's it did become heavily identified with the Irish immigrant community in New York City (The Democratic Party machine, which was run out of Tammany Hall, was quick to see the Irish community as an important voter block). And, of course, the Irish community was predominantly Roman Catholic. Blueboar (talk) 12:31, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
Tammany Hall (Confusing) - Building vs Political Machine
I think the article needs to be heavily rewritten to disambiguate the differences between the place/society and the politics within.
At the moment the name Tammany Hall is used with no interchangeable difference between the two meanings. This use seems to suggest a concurrency between the original building and the one that opened in 1927.
It's like persistently calling the office of the US President the White House but not clarifying that this is a euphemism for an executive branch of the US government based on the synonymous building in Washington.
But as can be seen, there is an article for the US President and one for White House. This should be the case for Tammany Hall, or at least, a separate section pertaining to the building and its locations, throughout its history. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.42.254.87 (talk) 14:17, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Suggest merger from the Tammanies
It seems to overlap heavily, and Tammany Society has already been merged into this article. RayTalk 06:09, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
John F. Curry
The link for John F. Curry seems incorrect. The list of political leaders includes that name, and such a person actually existed. However, the link goes to a John F. Curry who was the first national commander of the Civil Air Patrol. Broadcaster101 (talk) 05:59, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
William Mooney
William Mooney of Tammany 1700s links to a soap actor of the 1980s. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.216.46.240 (talk) 04:29, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
"Leaders" section
Are the people listed in the Tammany Hall#Leaders section supposed to be the Grand Sachems or some other leadership position within Tammany Hall? If the list is supposed to be that of the Grand Sachems, the 19th century portion doesn't match the list given in Euphemia Vale Blake's History of the Tammany society from its organization to the present time. It looks like an anonymous editor added the contents of the list back in 2003. DanielPenfield (talk) 17:29, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- I've editd the article substantially, but I've never touched the list, simply assuming it was correct. I took a quick look at your source - can you tell me if there's an equvalent list there, or will someone have to read through the book and construct a new one? Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:12, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- Search for "GRAND SACHEMS" (it's in "CHAPTER LXII") or check WorldCat (OCLC 1294977, OCLC 10849194) to see if it's available at your local library. -- DanielPenfield (talk) 20:02, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
- I've looked at the list, and it seems to me that the scanning process has severely corrupted it, enough so that I do not think it can be said to be a reliable source for this information. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:09, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
- Search for "GRAND SACHEMS" (it's in "CHAPTER LXII") or check WorldCat (OCLC 1294977, OCLC 10849194) to see if it's available at your local library. -- DanielPenfield (talk) 20:02, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
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