Talk:Tammany Hall

Mergers

I merged the two, but there wasn't a whole lot in Tammany Society to merge anyway. --TheGrza 20:30, Nov 4, 2004 (UTC)

Restored edits

I restored the edits made by User:68.161.26.201. A post on the help desk (from a different New York IP) identified that user as a professor of urban studies at NYU. Although I know little of the subject matter, I looked at the changes and thought they looked like improvments, so I restored them. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 19:18, 2 November 2005 (UTC)

• disambiguate; history; etymology; tammany:

Everything tammany should have disambiguation, including Louisiana, as well as etymology, history.

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There isn't enough here

What happened after 1950? I know that it still exists in one form or another.

Status of secret society

Tammany Hall is sometimes called the Tammany Society. Wasn't it some kind of secret society that combined various Roman Catholic elements ? If so, wouldn't it be accurate to say that Tammany Hall was a potential rival and even an opponent to Freemasonry ? ADM (talk) 10:19, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

No, that would not be acccurate. Tammany was founded as a political society (supporting the Jeffersonian Democrats), not as a secret society. Like many other fraternal organizations, they borrowed the organizational structure of Freemasonry in creating their society. In fact, several of Tammany's founders were Freemasons, who created Tammany because Freemasonry in NY insisted on staying politically neutral.

Tammany was never specifically Roman Catholic... However, starting in the 1840's it did become heavily identified with the Irish immigrant community in New York City (The Democratic Party machine, which was run out of Tammany Hall, was quick to see the Irish community as an important voter block). And, of course, the Irish community was predominantly Roman Catholic. Blueboar (talk) 12:31, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Tammany Hall (Confusing) - Building vs Political Machine

I think the article needs to be heavily rewritten to disambiguate the differences between the place/society and the politics within.

At the moment the name Tammany Hall is used with no interchangeable difference between the two meanings. This use seems to suggest a concurrency between the original building and the one that opened in 1927.

It's like persistently calling the office of the US President the White House but not clarifying that this is a euphemism for an executive branch of the US government based on the synonymous building in Washington.

But as can be seen, there is an article for the US President and one for White House. This should be the case for Tammany Hall, or at least, a separate section pertaining to the building and its locations, throughout its history. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.42.254.87 (talk) 14:17, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

Suggest merger from the Tammanies

It seems to overlap heavily, and Tammany Society has already been merged into this article. Ray^Talk 06:09, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

John F. Curry

The link for John F. Curry seems incorrect. The list of political leaders includes that name, and such a person actually existed. However, the link goes to a John F. Curry who was the first national commander of the Civil Air Patrol. Broadcaster101 (talk) 05:59, 26 October 2009 (UTC)

William Mooney

William Mooney of Tammany 1700s links to a soap actor of the 1980s. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.216.46.240 (talk) 04:29, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

"Leaders" section

Are the people listed in the Tammany Hall#Leaders section supposed to be the Grand Sachems or some other leadership position within Tammany Hall? If the list is supposed to be that of the Grand Sachems, the 19th century portion doesn't match the list given in Euphemia Vale Blake's History of the Tammany society from its organization to the present time. It looks like an anonymous editor added the contents of the list back in 2003]DanielPenfield (talk) 17:29, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

I've editd the article substantially, but I've never touched the list, simply assuming it was correct. I took a quick look at your source - can you tell me if there's an equvalent list there, or will someone have to read through the book and construct a new one? Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:12, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

Search for "GRAND SACHEMS" (it's in "CHAPTER LXII") or check WorldCat (OCLC 1294977, OCLC 10849194) to see if it's available at your local library. DanielPenfield (talk) 20:02, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

I've looked at the list, and it seems to me that the scanning process has severely corrupted it, enough so that I do not think it can be said to be a reliable source for this information. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:09, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

There's a much better scan on Google Books, but I'm not convinced that this 1901 book is the best source for this information. Modern research may have filled in many of the gaps. Beyond My Ken (talk) 03:26, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, you're right, the unsourced contributions of an anonymous editor using a Russian IP address are better than what appears to be an extensively researched history of Tammany Hall that readers can verify for themselves. We should wait for this "modern research" that you've mentioned to magically appear someday. DanielPenfield (talk) 03:51, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

You like the info so much, do your own damn work and put it in the article. And signatures do not go on a seperate line, chief. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:03, 14 February 2011 (UTC)